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Quote from: dansus021 on May 29, 2022, 09:32:34 PM

i do aggree with this one but nowadays VPN have system like tor have, multiple IP so basically we connected to 2 or more country at the same time.

But offcource we need paid VPN service there some said that if you are using free product, you are the product

Free VPN is just a place for advertisements and lots of advertisements which lead us to obscure sites and in the end we have to watch those advertisements. Indeed, we are the product when we use a free VPN. If you use a premium VPN it will be free of ads, but you will need to pay a few dollars to enjoy the premium version. We also need to know the privacy policy of using premium VPNs. Don't let our data be recorded and misused. No matter how good a VPN is, it all depends on the user.

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Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

When I signed up for Bitcointalk, it was a question of security how we can get more of it and a VPN was very effective against a leak of data. Bitcointalk suffered many hacks already because it seems to be based on an outdated layout from when Bitcoin was launched by Satoshi. Satoshi created Bitcointalk himself.
Of course, a VPN was a good option for signing up and it will improve our security A LOT.

If in doubt, a VPN is always a good idea.
Not only for Bitcointalk but also generally.
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I'm not a coder but I can recommend a VPN for internet, like Bitcointalk.

VPNs will not improve your computer security.

Of course it will. When a hacker is trying fo find a target, he will get problems to detect his target.
VPN can help here.

Quote from: taufik123 on May 27, 2022, 01:26:15 AM

saying that a VPN is the most secure for the internet, certainly won't be completely secure.

VPN is part of it. You still need wire protection, too

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Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

Bitcointalk suffered many hacks already because it seems to be based on an outdated layout from when Bitcoin was launched by Satoshi. Satoshi created Bitcointalk himself.
Of course, a VPN was a good option for signing up and it will improve our security A LOT.

I'm not a coder but I can recommend a VPN for internet, like Bitcointalk.

Wait.
Could you provide a list of Bitcointalk attacks? The data leaked?

It was huge: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-history-of-hacks-and-vandalism-4405796
Bitcointalk was hacked in [2011] , [2013] and [2015]

Quote from: PawGo on May 26, 2022, 01:06:29 PM

How is it related to "outdated layout"?

Old layout has lots of vulnerabilities. It's like when you are using a new tool, it's much better.
And hackers are improving hacking skills day by day.

Quote from: PawGo on May 26, 2022, 01:06:29 PM

How using VPN (I guess you are talking about hiding your real IP) could help in avoiding leaks?

Because of reduced targeting.

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I actually always use a VPN when I’m accessing certain Crypto Related sites. For me it’s an issue of security and my own safety. I have been into bitcoin for many years and when you see enough people get scammed you start to get a little bit paranoid.
I actually fell for a scam once myself so it can really happen to anyone. The best we can do is try to protect ourselves and take all the necessary precautions we can.
If you’re dabbling in a lot of crypto related activities I think using a VPN is just one of those necessary steps that gives you a little peace of mind. Now it’s possible that my VPN provider is selling my data, I just can’t be sure but I still feel safer using it.

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Being secure and being private is not the same thing. You can achieve a slightly higher level of privacy by using a VPN, but you are by no means anonymous. A VPN will not help you against the most common online threats: social engineering, phishing, and downloading of fake and malware-infected software. A VPN is also not a privacy protection if a database leak occurs on a website or a service where you have submitted your personal data. They might not acquire your real IP, but they have your name, address, age, gender, marital status, payment info, etc. Who cares about your IP address in that case.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on May 28, 2022, 09:50:59 PM

VPN is just for security measures. But in forum the best method is to protect yourself by turning off your IP address to easy access of hacking you, because it's similar thing i VPN does, it is just a avenue for changing your address to any other country. VPN is good but it has a disadvantages if it's use for banking operating application, to some extent it review or give access to hackers to penetrate into your account, so it's not encouraging using or turning your VPN when using bank application.

although I'm not convinced that using a VPN is a serious step toward security, it should be borne in mind that VPNs are available to hackers themselves and they certainly use them to hide their identity.
So, any useful tool can be used by both sides.
This "VPN is important against hackers" phrase just creates a false sense of safety, not all attacks come through an IP address.

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Quote from: dansus021 on May 29, 2022, 09:32:34 PM

Quote from: Charles-Tim on May 26, 2022, 11:57:32 AM

VPN can help to some extent but Tor is more decentralized and can help privacy more. In some cases, online attack can be directed to specific IP addresses, very possible VPN will help but the work of VPN and Tor is to enhance privacy, not security.

i do aggree with this one but nowadays VPN have system like tor have, multiple IP so basically we connected to 2 or more country at the same time.

But offcource we need paid VPN service there some said that if you are using free product, you are the product

If you use a multi-hop VPN and/or use it with different VPN services, it still relies on the trust of the VPN providers. And AFAIK, there is no technical way that the no-log policy can be verified. In another hand, Tor nodes are randomly picked, which makes the trust somewhat distributed, not like VPN which has a single-point failure, the provider itself.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on May 26, 2022, 11:57:32 AM

VPN can help to some extent but Tor is more decentralized and can help privacy more. In some cases, online attack can be directed to specific IP addresses, very possible VPN will help but the work of VPN and Tor is to enhance privacy, not security.

i do aggree with this one but nowadays VPN have system like tor have, multiple IP so basically we connected to 2 or more country at the same time.

But offcource we need paid VPN service there some said that if you are using free product, you are the product

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VPN is just for security measures. But in forum the best method is to protect yourself by turning off your IP address to easy access of hacking you, because it's similar thing i VPN does, it is just a avenue for changing your address to any other country. VPN is good but it has a disadvantages if it's use for banking operating application, to some extent it review or give access to hackers to penetrate into your account, so it's not encouraging using or turning your VPN when using bank application.

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Some times a hacker need to infect your PC with malware or spyware first before they do their thing, VPN won't safe you from spyware or malware and once it's on your PC the work is done, change location a hundred times you are in the palm of an hacker already.

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OP, you said a hundred times that VPN is a cool thing. But I still don't understand what exactly you want to say? Your post is more like a mantra in which you reassure yourself that you will no longer be found.
I will upset you very much, I am more than sure that you are not familiar with how, in addition to VPN, you can detect a person. It is important that the VPN does not keep any logs, does not give out your time, and much more.
Many VPNs these days are just a "valerian" to the user, a sedative to make them think that if they change their IP, their butt will still be protected.

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Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

For Bitcoin, we need to have a safe Laptop / PC, where we can access our Bitcoin. Don't trust middleman and foreign fabricators.

Having a “safe” pc is not enough, the most important thing is where you store your bitcoins and how you backup your keys. I recommend using a hard wallet and store your private keys offline.

Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

VPN is a small step but each step is important.
I'm not a coder but I can recommend a VPN for internet, like Bitcointalk.

Using a VPN is a small step in ensuring privacy. I don’t see how using VPN service can prevent hacks.

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Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

If in doubt, a VPN is always a good idea.
Not only for Bitcointalk but also generally.

Not if you choose VPN services randomly.

Some VPN review sites are owned by the same companies that provide VPN services, I wonder what is the purpose of that. You also won't get much from a free VPN, remember the saying that "if the platform is free you are the product"?

If you didn't dig deeper regarding how the VPN services behave(about ToS&Privacy Policy,etc), you are potentially using VPN services that sell data and violate your privacy, generally, making your security/privacy worse. After all, it is technically impossible that VPN services can be proven they have a no-log data policy.

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Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

Our security is improved, when we use a VPN because a VPN will prevent your location of being leaked to a hacker or a website possibly hacked later by an hacker.

Except they will not prevent your location from being leaked to the VPN owners. VPN's are overrated if you ask me, unless you just care about watching Netflix shows unavailable in your country or if you just want a false feeling of security and anonymity.

Most VPN's sell your data and collect a ton of information from you. It is not much different from your ISP. The only 'protection' you get is from for example website owners maybe. But if we are talking about leaks, VPN's do not offer the best security and privacy.

If you want privacy, use Tor instead. That one makes more sense.

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Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

For Bitcoin, we need to have a safe Laptop / PC, where we can access our Bitcoin. Don't trust middleman and foreign fabricateurs.

Really?! This is the way to secure the coins? Get PC from "good" sources? Aren't the components built in the same few factories? Will the malware avoid the computer if certain brand names are on it?
This is just a small drop in the inaccuracies (and I'm being generous with the choice of words) from your post.

VPN is very small part in the equation.
PC maker most probably doesn't matter at all (unless you buy infected second hand and you don't know what to do).
And in what universe does the look/layout matter or is related to a hack?!

If one wants privacy then he has to use Tor and his own server/node and avoid KYC platforms.
If one wants to secure his coins he needs cold storage, or hardware wallet, or, if he knows how to properly do it and doesn't spend, paper wallet.
As simple as that; 2 lines.

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The only thing that VPN is good for is spoofing location, security to your PC? That's impossible, and changing location doesn't keep your PC safe from hackers, you can't fool a hacker by using random IP address or changing to a far away location.

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saying that a VPN is the most secure for the internet, certainly won't be completely secure.
VPN will not secure your device even if you use a free VPN with lots of ads that contain malware it will be more dangerous. At least use a premium VPN to be a bit more secure.

the most important security is how we can avoid every trap that can be dangerous such as phishing, malware etc. We have to understand.
Hacking can happen to anyone, on any device, and at any time.
If a VPN became so important, it wouldn't be completely.

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Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

When I signed up for Bitcointalk, it was a question of security how we can get more of it and a VPN was very effective against a leak of data. Bitcointalk suffered many hacks already because it seems to be based on an outdated layout from when Bitcoin was launched by Satoshi. Satoshi created Bitcointalk himself.
Of course, a VPN was a good option for signing up and it will improve our security A LOT.

If in doubt, a VPN is always a good idea.
Not only for Bitcointalk but also generally.
...
I'm not a coder but I can recommend a VPN for internet, like Bitcointalk.

VPNs will not improve your computer security. They only prevent your true location from being found in a data breach.

By itself, VPN offers only privacy against prying eyes. It is not an anti-malware tool.

Also, the theory that Bitcointalk was more vulnerable to hacks because of old UI layout is wrong. Theymos (administrator) has hardened the software against most vulnerabillities. On the other hand, most new layouts have subtle loopholes somewhere deep inside the Javascript that are hard to find.

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Hiding your IP helps a bit, but it's just the tip of the iceberg when talking about security. Still, the most important part of a person's opsec is his/her brain (despite how corny and cliche it sounds). I really don't remember the last time I got hacked/scammed.

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Quote from: PawGo on May 26, 2022, 01:06:29 PM

Could you provide a list of Bitcointalk attacks? The data leaked?

This forum was hacked 3 times in 2011, 2013 and 2015. There was data leak from these hacks too.

Bitcointalk history of hacks and vandalism.
In 2011, hacker is SomethingAwful
In 2013, hacker is "The Hole seekers"
In 2015, the server compromised

Tor is available for computer and Android too. Important, Tor is free to use.

Computer: https://www.torproject.org/download/
Android: https://www.torproject.org/download/#android

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Quote from: wagmi on May 26, 2022, 11:40:52 AM

Bitcointalk suffered many hacks already because it seems to be based on an outdated layout from when Bitcoin was launched by Satoshi. Satoshi created Bitcointalk himself.
Of course, a VPN was a good option for signing up and it will improve our security A LOT.

I'm not a coder but I can recommend a VPN for internet, like Bitcointalk.

Wait.
Could you provide a list of Bitcointalk attacks? The data leaked?
How is it related to "outdated layout"?
How using VPN (I guess you are talking about hiding your real IP) could help in avoiding leaks?

They have a very clear policy of IP storing, they clearly wrote when IP is removed from database etc. Of course you may use IP, but in my opinion IP is not a very valuable data for people who steal some forums or websites user databases. Emails, passwords, addresses if provided - yes, but IP?

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