Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past - page 29.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on February 10, 2022, 02:28:00 PM

3.- No confirmation sites.
Any site to allows you to gamble with nonconfirmed coins is vulnerable to a double-spend attack. People could wager their balance and if they win then waits for the transaction to confirm, and if they lose they could make a double spend, that's a known vulnerability.

Until 2016 i can't remember any no confirmation site, rather 1-confirmation (a large amount of casinos). And yeah, they still vulnerable to double spend attack, not in bitcoin or ethereum, but in Litecoin or something like that. Because in Litecoin orphans (valide block which are mined but not included into blockchain) are often to happen

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 18, 2022, 04:04:51 PM

or better yet, if you will leave some of your funds in a casino, make sure it is a reputable casino with the capability to refund the losses of their players in case of hacking incident. because some gamblers do really leave their funds if they are actively playing on the site. but the smart move is to secure your funds, transferring it to your own wallet if you have days of inactivity in the casino. nowadays, you can never be sure with the security of the casino, even if it is a top casino here. hackers really do try and try up until they got the vulnerability of the site.

I would say this not because that the casino is not reputable but to show that leaving your money in casino is a bad habit. It is much better if you don't leave your funds on the casino. If it continue like that, it could also make you lose funds when you gamble in another casino that is reputable but having a shady tactics that may not look like a bad thing. It would only be the gambler's fault even though it's not. It's just the same as a gambler who exploited a casino.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on February 18, 2022, 03:58:41 PM

Quote from: DoublerHunter on February 18, 2022, 02:49:16 PM

Quote from: Silberman on February 18, 2022, 02:05:52 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on February 15, 2022, 02:26:29 PM

Nothing on this world is unhackable and we should really bare it up into our minds no matter how reputable or popular it would be there would be always those probabilities and that's why we do keep on
seeing these kind of situations just because there's no such thing about perfect security which does as a user then you should really be aware of that.We've seen various exploits which it did really

result into huge loss of funds of a certain gambling site because of those lapses and this is where security does continue to improve overtime.So far there are
no huge hacking or exploits on recent years not like into those years of the old.

Sadly the reality is even worse than that, everything can be hacked, it does not matter how complex is the protection of a piece of software or a website, hackers can always find a way to hack it with enough time, this is why opening up a casino is such an expensive business as not only you need a lot of capital to begin with but a great deal of the money will always go towards securing your website, because the moment you stop investing in this is when hackers will have all the time in the world to exploit the casino.

^ The only solution for this is don't leave any amount of money of gambling casino, if you don't want to gamble in that day, just pull out all of them or else, never store your valuable assets in the casino. Especially those casinos that have been hacked before, there is a possibility that they will hack again due to their lack of securities. That is exactly the truth, when it comes to the internet, everything could be vulnerable and no one is exempted regarding that matter.

Yeah, this should be the case but there are people who do really end up on having that trust on a particular platform specially if they had the experienced for long time that's why they do
really store up their coins not only for saving up fees but also they couldn't really be having that hassle on making transactions actively.

I couldn't really blame though since these would be the reasons on why they wouldn't really be that actively making out withdrawals and instead
they would just simply leave those funds but its not actually safe on what angle.

or better yet, if you will leave some of your funds in a casino, make sure it is a reputable casino with the capability to refund the losses of their players in case of hacking incident. because some gamblers do really leave their funds if they are actively playing on the site. but the smart move is to secure your funds, transferring it to your own wallet if you have days of inactivity in the casino. nowadays, you can never be sure with the security of the casino, even if it is a top casino here. hackers really do try and try up until they got the vulnerability of the site.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on February 18, 2022, 02:49:16 PM

Quote from: Silberman on February 18, 2022, 02:05:52 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on February 15, 2022, 02:26:29 PM

Nothing on this world is unhackable and we should really bare it up into our minds no matter how reputable or popular it would be there would be always those probabilities and that's why we do keep on
seeing these kind of situations just because there's no such thing about perfect security which does as a user then you should really be aware of that.We've seen various exploits which it did really

result into huge loss of funds of a certain gambling site because of those lapses and this is where security does continue to improve overtime.So far there are
no huge hacking or exploits on recent years not like into those years of the old.

Sadly the reality is even worse than that, everything can be hacked, it does not matter how complex is the protection of a piece of software or a website, hackers can always find a way to hack it with enough time, this is why opening up a casino is such an expensive business as not only you need a lot of capital to begin with but a great deal of the money will always go towards securing your website, because the moment you stop investing in this is when hackers will have all the time in the world to exploit the casino.

^ The only solution for this is don't leave any amount of money of gambling casino, if you don't want to gamble in that day, just pull out all of them or else, never store your valuable assets in the casino. Especially those casinos that have been hacked before, there is a possibility that they will hack again due to their lack of securities. That is exactly the truth, when it comes to the internet, everything could be vulnerable and no one is exempted regarding that matter.

Yeah, this should be the case but there are people who do really end up on having that trust on a particular platform specially if they had the experienced for long time that's why they do
really store up their coins not only for saving up fees but also they couldn't really be having that hassle on making transactions actively.

I couldn't really blame though since these would be the reasons on why they wouldn't really be that actively making out withdrawals and instead
they would just simply leave those funds but its not actually safe on what angle.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 15, 2022, 01:46:44 PM

Their security protocol should always be topnotch because there are some gamblers that will really exploit the vulnerability of the site.
So if their system got a hit of possible unusual activity, they should check that out immediately, before that player siphoned all their bankroll.
But there are still some honest players that will report the bugs encountered, but the site should not rely on those honest players.
Because most of the time, the player will take that opportunity as most are playing anonymous when it comes to crypto casinos.

This is true, while there are some users that will reveal the nature of any bugs that they discover and at best hope for some bug bounty, there are many users that instead will take advantage of the bugs and if they are not careful they should lose a great deal of money against a dishonest user like that, this is why developing a casino or an exchange is such an expensive undertaking, because the development never really stops and a great deal of the time of the developers is spent trying to solve any bug the may find.
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You are absolutely right, at this point it is always well known that every casino has the advantage and the house always wins, customers always have the odds against winning, many barriers have to be overcome to be successful, so as many Players with great skills in discovering patterns through algorithms and programs that even add IA when they find a vulnerability use it in their favor without any remorse, but many times in casinos they do not have the option to say that if there is some kind of error report it and that a good reward will be given, I think that this is where casinos also fail, only some players with a lot of ethics are the ones who report vulnerabilities.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 18, 2022, 02:05:52 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on February 15, 2022, 02:26:29 PM

Nothing on this world is unhackable and we should really bare it up into our minds no matter how reputable or popular it would be there would be always those probabilities and that's why we do keep on
seeing these kind of situations just because there's no such thing about perfect security which does as a user then you should really be aware of that.We've seen various exploits which it did really

result into huge loss of funds of a certain gambling site because of those lapses and this is where security does continue to improve overtime.So far there are
no huge hacking or exploits on recent years not like into those years of the old.

Sadly the reality is even worse than that, everything can be hacked, it does not matter how complex is the protection of a piece of software or a website, hackers can always find a way to hack it with enough time, this is why opening up a casino is such an expensive business as not only you need a lot of capital to begin with but a great deal of the money will always go towards securing your website, because the moment you stop investing in this is when hackers will have all the time in the world to exploit the casino.

^ The only solution for this is don't leave any amount of money of gambling casino, if you don't want to gamble in that day, just pull out all of them or else, never store your valuable assets in the casino. Especially those casinos that have been hacked before, there is a possibility that they will hack again due to their lack of securities. That is exactly the truth, when it comes to the internet, everything could be vulnerable and no one is exempted regarding that matter.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on February 15, 2022, 02:26:29 PM

Nothing on this world is unhackable and we should really bare it up into our minds no matter how reputable or popular it would be there would be always those probabilities and that's why we do keep on
seeing these kind of situations just because there's no such thing about perfect security which does as a user then you should really be aware of that.We've seen various exploits which it did really

result into huge loss of funds of a certain gambling site because of those lapses and this is where security does continue to improve overtime.So far there are
no huge hacking or exploits on recent years not like into those years of the old.

Sadly the reality is even worse than that, everything can be hacked, it does not matter how complex is the protection of a piece of software or a website, hackers can always find a way to hack it with enough time, this is why opening up a casino is such an expensive business as not only you need a lot of capital to begin with but a great deal of the money will always go towards securing your website, because the moment you stop investing in this is when hackers will have all the time in the world to exploit the casino.

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Quote from: toast on February 12, 2022, 06:11:58 PM

weaknesses will always remain. And players who try to exploit this will always stay, you can't do much about that. You can draw up a policy policy, and in combination with a kyc policy you can put a limit on a certain player, for example. That way it becomes much less interesting for a player to continue cheating.

Yes, but once such a player is limited in his cheating opportunities, he or she starts complaining about a particular casino This is the other side of the coin. Some gambling sites block withdrawals for such players and that very moment players start writing negative reviews about those websites.

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Quote from: yayayo on February 15, 2022, 01:49:17 PM

Since the introduction of the VAR, this problem in live betting in football is also increasing. There is a time frame in it that a betting site is vulnerable, because the goal scored has been processed by the bookmaker. At that moment the VAR looks at it and if the goal is disallowed then you have a big problem there are a lot of players who try to abuse this situation and it is actually free money what you get when you stream which you can quickly see that it was indeed out of the game.

ya.ya.yo!

Live betting has always been a risky business for casinos, in theory by offering something like this they can get even more profits, however a good player can easily see mistakes on the odds and take advantage of them.

And if to this we add that the advancement in the technology has allowed people to know about the results of a play before even the casino does then they can make a bunch of bets they know they can win all the time with no risk for themselves, so unless casinos stop offering live bets I do not see a way to solve this problem for them.

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Quote from: Reatim on February 13, 2022, 05:11:13 AM

Quote from: Scripture on February 12, 2022, 06:46:04 PM

Quote from: toast on February 12, 2022, 06:11:58 PM

weaknesses will always remain. And players who try to exploit this will always stay, you can't do much about that. You can draw up a policy policy, and in combination with a kyc policy you can put a limit on a certain player, for example. That way it becomes much less interesting for a player to continue cheating.

There's always an issue on any gambling site, just like my experience before about my withdrawals considering that they are the top betting site and yet they are far from being perfect which I think none on any site claimed to be perfect. Vulnerabilities are always there since hackers are really great as well, imagine Binance got expose to those hackers, what more the other site especially in gambling where security is the main concern.

Which gambling site would this be? because you mentioned as a top betting site and you experienced issues so i think there is nothing wrong to tackle that problem here so we won't think that you are only making stories here.
but of course you are perfectly correct about Gambling sites all of them has issues but at least in legitimate site we can only experience small issues or some stuffs that isolated.
and this is normal in every business i guess?
it is impossible to a big business not to have some problems in their Businesses because that will never happen.

There will always be lapses even in huge and reputable gambling sites. We might experience inconvenience or issues but if a gambling site is reputable, we should expect that they would always do something to fix it. I've experienced the same thing as well but it's an edge that I'm with a reputable and trusted casino.

Nothing on this world is unhackable and we should really bare it up into our minds no matter how reputable or popular it would be there would be always those probabilities and that's why we do keep on
seeing these kind of situations just because there's no such thing about perfect security which does as a user then you should really be aware of that.We've seen various exploits which it did really

result into huge loss of funds of a certain gambling site because of those lapses and this is where security does continue to improve overtime.So far there are
no huge hacking or exploits on recent years not like into those years of the old.

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Since the introduction of the VAR, this problem in live betting in football is also increasing. There is a time frame in it that a betting site is vulnerable, because the goal scored has been processed by the bookmaker. At that moment the VAR looks at it and if the goal is disallowed then you have a big problem there are a lot of players who try to abuse this situation and it is actually free money what you get when you stream which you can quickly see that it was indeed out of the game.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on February 11, 2022, 05:02:44 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on February 11, 2022, 04:52:23 PM

Quote from: Fortify on February 11, 2022, 04:48:11 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

There are still some weaknesses in the gambling sites, but what can be done about them? There is a lot of talk about cheating and arbitrage betting. Perhaps rightly so, but what can be done about it? That hassle with table tennis and cams, that does not make sites happy. And then with corona you also had a lot of competitions that were manipulated by the bookies. There are too many matches to monitor all of that in time.

These are rather inane questions. One of two things is going to happen to sites that have a vulnerability like the examples given. Either they will have measures in place to limit the damage and eventually be able to identify the bug, as we saw with the hacker who was kind enough to disclose a glitch. The other possibility is that the staff fail to identify that they have a losing edge against a player, if the automate withdrawals then it's very possible they'll be wiped out before there is any chance to figure it out. These are very profitable businesses when done correctly, so when you see dead sites then you know they probably lost a fair chunk of money and gave up.

Good gambling site always have a backup plan and if there’s a problem between the players and the site, I’m sure they can handle this one. I didn’t hear any news about the hacking incidents on any gambling site, I might not aware of any news but for me they are really secured, I’m talking about the top gambling site. If you see any anomaly or issues about the site, ask them first and if they didn’t coordinate you can always start your accusation thread and warn other people.

Their security protocol should always be topnotch because there are some gamblers that will really exploit the vulnerability of the site.
So if their system got a hit of possible unusual activity, they should check that out immediately, before that player siphoned all their bankroll.
But there are still some honest players that will report the bugs encountered, but the site should not rely on those honest players.
Because most of the time, the player will take that opportunity as most are playing anonymous when it comes to crypto casinos.

This is true, while there are some users that will reveal the nature of any bugs that they discover and at best hope for some bug bounty, there are many users that instead will take advantage of the bugs and if they are not careful they should lose a great deal of money against a dishonest user like that, this is why developing a casino or an exchange is such an expensive undertaking, because the development never really stops and a great deal of the time of the developers is spent trying to solve any bug the may find.

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Quote from: Reatim on February 13, 2022, 05:11:13 AM

Quote from: Scripture on February 12, 2022, 06:46:04 PM

Quote from: toast on February 12, 2022, 06:11:58 PM

weaknesses will always remain. And players who try to exploit this will always stay, you can't do much about that. You can draw up a policy policy, and in combination with a kyc policy you can put a limit on a certain player, for example. That way it becomes much less interesting for a player to continue cheating.

There's always an issue on any gambling site, just like my experience before about my withdrawals considering that they are the top betting site and yet they are far from being perfect which I think none on any site claimed to be perfect. Vulnerabilities are always there since hackers are really great as well, imagine Binance got expose to those hackers, what more the other site especially in gambling where security is the main concern.

Which gambling site would this be? because you mentioned as a top betting site and you experienced issues so i think there is nothing wrong to tackle that problem here so we won't think that you are only making stories here.
but of course you are perfectly correct about Gambling sites all of them has issues but at least in legitimate site we can only experience small issues or some stuffs that isolated.
and this is normal in every business i guess?
it is impossible to a big business not to have some problems in their Businesses because that will never happen.

There will always be lapses even in huge and reputable gambling sites. We might experience inconvenience or issues but if a gambling site is reputable, we should expect that they would always do something to fix it. I've experienced the same thing as well but it's an edge that I'm with a reputable and trusted casino.

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Quote from: Scripture on February 12, 2022, 06:46:04 PM

Quote from: toast on February 12, 2022, 06:11:58 PM

weaknesses will always remain. And players who try to exploit this will always stay, you can't do much about that. You can draw up a policy policy, and in combination with a kyc policy you can put a limit on a certain player, for example. That way it becomes much less interesting for a player to continue cheating.

There's always an issue on any gambling site, just like my experience before about my withdrawals considering that they are the top betting site and yet they are far from being perfect which I think none on any site claimed to be perfect. Vulnerabilities are always there since hackers are really great as well, imagine Binance got expose to those hackers, what more the other site especially in gambling where security is the main concern.

Which gambling site would this be? because you mentioned as a top betting site and you experienced issues so i think there is nothing wrong to tackle that problem here so we won't think that you are only making stories here.
but of course you are perfectly correct about Gambling sites all of them has issues but at least in legitimate site we can only experience small issues or some stuffs that isolated.
and this is normal in every business i guess?
it is impossible to a big business not to have some problems in their Businesses because that will never happen .

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Quote from: Johnyz on February 11, 2022, 04:52:23 PM

Quote from: Fortify on February 11, 2022, 04:48:11 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

There are still some weaknesses in the gambling sites, but what can be done about them? There is a lot of talk about cheating and arbitrage betting. Perhaps rightly so, but what can be done about it? That hassle with table tennis and cams, that does not make sites happy. And then with corona you also had a lot of competitions that were manipulated by the bookies. There are too many matches to monitor all of that in time.

These are rather inane questions. One of two things is going to happen to sites that have a vulnerability like the examples given. Either they will have measures in place to limit the damage and eventually be able to identify the bug, as we saw with the hacker who was kind enough to disclose a glitch. The other possibility is that the staff fail to identify that they have a losing edge against a player, if the automate withdrawals then it's very possible they'll be wiped out before there is any chance to figure it out. These are very profitable businesses when done correctly, so when you see dead sites then you know they probably lost a fair chunk of money and gave up.

Good gambling site always have a backup plan and if there’s a problem between the players and the site, I’m sure they can handle this one. I didn’t hear any news about the hacking incidents on any gambling site, I might not aware of any news but for me they are really secured, I’m talking about the top gambling site. If you see any anomaly or issues about the site, ask them first and if they didn’t coordinate you can always start your accusation thread and warn other people.

Im afraid that hacking of gambling site is Inside Job? because security of each site is really tight so why on earth that those can be hacked?
but of course we have no idea what really happens but with Millions of funds inside each sites? I'm sure they are really vulnerable in hacking or in any form.
because there are even phishing happening in many sites even those very popular one so cases will keep popping from time to time.
same reason why we need to be ready and aware of those situation to be prevented .

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Quote from: Scripture on February 12, 2022, 06:46:04 PM

Quote from: toast on February 12, 2022, 06:11:58 PM

weaknesses will always remain. And players who try to exploit this will always stay, you can't do much about that. You can draw up a policy policy, and in combination with a kyc policy you can put a limit on a certain player, for example. That way it becomes much less interesting for a player to continue cheating.

There's always an issue on any gambling site, just like my experience before about my withdrawals considering that they are the top betting site and yet they are far from being perfect which I think none on any site claimed to be perfect. Vulnerabilities are always there since hackers are really great as well, imagine Binance got expose to those hackers, what more the other site especially in gambling where security is the main concern.

What kind of issue you encounter on your withdrawal because most the gambling don't have vulnerabilities in regards with this matter due to there tight security. Some of the Casino requires KYC if you will withdraw an amount above the minimum threshold for non-KYC account. Most of the vulnerabilities of casino nowadays are from there software provider like slots and live casino since Casino are now just using 3rd party game provider on there games. Only few of them have original games so the problem always occur on 3rd party software.

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Quote from: worldofcoins on February 10, 2022, 12:54:00 PM

What was the total number of exploits and which ones were the lethal ones, I think that hufflepuff guy on primedice did the most damage.
The exploit was called something like "Race time condition" and I read something similar in my CS class but it was related to a banking system so it could be different.

Basically, it was giving multiple inputs to the system trying to get some response from the system in 2 places, and then exploiting the system.

Oh hufflepuff? This guy is notorious in primedice. Everyone was talking about him. I thought he was only just a scammer because that is what the rumour said but I did not know that he was also a hacker. This happened long time ago when the crypto casinos are still new and they are not aware yet of the hacks that could break into their systems but now that crypto gambling is popular, casinos now have a better security than before.

There are exploits too that have been sold in the market that said to give you a big wins in a crypto casino but all of them are just scams. Btw, hey OP, what are you developing about? Is this some kind of a hack tool to test a gambling site?

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Quote from: toast on February 12, 2022, 06:11:58 PM

weaknesses will always remain. And players who try to exploit this will always stay, you can't do much about that. You can draw up a policy policy, and in combination with a kyc policy you can put a limit on a certain player, for example. That way it becomes much less interesting for a player to continue cheating.

There's always an issue on any gambling site, just like my experience before about my withdrawals considering that they are the top betting site and yet they are far from being perfect which I think none on any site claimed to be perfect. Vulnerabilities are always there since hackers are really great as well, imagine Binance got expose to those hackers, what more the other site especially in gambling where security is the main concern.

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weaknesses will always remain. And players who try to exploit this will always stay, you can't do much about that. You can draw up a policy policy, and in combination with a kyc policy you can put a limit on a certain player, for example. That way it becomes much less interesting for a player to continue cheating.

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Quote from: magneto on February 12, 2022, 03:57:39 PM

Yep, Hufflepuff is the largest exploit that I know.

Though right now, it is increasingly unlikely that casinos have any significant structural risk associated with them given that they have been around for years now and have great security. Stake and Roobet has even entered the mainstream market which means that they've been battle tested millions of times.

This brings up an interesting point - if you are a retail gambler and have hit a win streak, don't expect that it's an actual exploit. A lot of people out there trying to sell martingale esque strategies off as exploits.

Big crypto casinos like stake, sportsbet and other known casinos, I believe has very tight security protocol considering that they are dealing with millions of dollars everyday. Gamblers are relying on them for the safety of their funds. So won't doubt that they are also spending good amount of money in terms of security. They need to invest on their security softwares because hackers will always find a way how to poke the weak spots of the site.

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