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Quote from: SiberianWanderer on January 20, 2018, 06:54:52 AM

Thanks for info, I've never heard of Mistertango before Grin

Too bad it seems only folks residing in EEA (European Economic Area) countries can get the card, I don't so I'll have to keep searching for another solution.

Nope.. I live in Asia. And I have the account and the card.

Works perfectly here. I convert my bitcoins into Euros on the account and from that account, I transfer some of the money to my regular bank account via SEPA. I also use the card at ATMs and for paying in stores/shops and restaurants here. Never declined. It's a really good card.

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Quote from: warningsigns on January 20, 2018, 06:42:51 AM

Quote from: SiberianWanderer on January 20, 2018, 06:26:56 AM

seems that WageCan is the only viable solution for now.

There is another option, Mistertango:

https://mistertango.com/en/

The account is free and it is an IBAN account. It comes with a MasterCard which is vastly cheaper than the WageCan card.

The MasterCard is directly linked to the IBAN account which can be loaded with bitcoins. The account comes with a dedicated bitcoin address. When you send coins to that address, it is converted at best available rate on this exchange: http://btc-exchange.com/

For a clear picture of their card's charges, check their fee prospectus:

http://[Suspicious link removed]/2Dx5rCc

And their ANN thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-mistertango-bitcoin-friendly-european-bank-account-free-mastercard-1972805

Thanks for info, I've never heard of Mistertango before Grin

Too bad it seems only folks residing in EEA (European Economic Area) countries can get the card, I don't so I'll have to keep searching for another solution.

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Quote from: SiberianWanderer on January 20, 2018, 06:26:56 AM

seems that WageCan is the only viable solution for now.

There is another option, Mistertango:

https://mistertango.com/en/

The account is free and it is an IBAN account. It comes with a MasterCard which is vastly cheaper than the WageCan card.

The MasterCard is directly linked to the IBAN account which can be loaded with bitcoins. The account comes with a dedicated bitcoin address. When you send coins to that address, it is converted at best available rate on this exchange: http://btc-exchange.com/

And their ANN thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-mistertango-bitcoin-friendly-european-bank-account-free-mastercard-1972805

For a clear picture of their card's charges, check their fee prospectus:

https://mistertango.com/en/mastercard

This is what I see on my own account:

How to deposit money to this account with BTC
Transfer your Bitcoin to given BTC address and they will be automatically changed into Euros. If the obtained value will be more than 5% lower than market value, your Bitcoin will not be changed. At your convenience you will be able to sell your Bitcoins by yourself at Bitmarket.
Note: Bitcoin will be changed into Euros after 1 network confirmation. This service is provided by Bitmarket.
Deposit fee: 1 % (minimum 0.0025 BTC)

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Like many of you, I'm looking for an alternative after my btc cards got blocked due to the WaveCrest fiasco, seems that WageCan is the only viable solution for now.

Can any report if top-up (loading) process is still being processed manually and take up to a few days? Read about it before and seemed strange considering that all other cards are loaded near instantly.

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Quote from: servsec on January 19, 2018, 06:10:22 AM

Such price can’t be justified as the service can’t be guaranteed.
If they guarantee the card will be working during all time I really don’t mind to pay even a higher fee.

I also asked them the same question and after talking to them I realized that they did not have to guarantee it because they are not the ones who make the cards, if they do not make the cards, how do you want them to make such guarantees?
we are at the mercy of the goodwill of the visa and the mastercard

Quote from: TryNinja on January 19, 2018, 03:43:43 AM

That's the price you need to pay if you want a Bitcoin debit card outside the USA.

you are right, this is one of those situations where people should not complain about the few options they have

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Such price can’t be justified as the service can’t be guaranteed.
If they guarantee the card will be working during all time I really don’t mind to pay even a higher fee.

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That's the price you need to pay if you want a Bitcoin debit card outside the USA. WageCan card isn't provided by Wave Crest (which is probably why they cost so much), so they weren't blocked by the recent rule that killed 95% of the Bitcoin debit card ecosystem.

The other way is to order the one from Bitpay. But those are only issued in the USA (by Metropolitan Commercial Bank) since the card for non-USA users was also provided by WaveCrest.

For the user talking about UQUID, they also stopped working: https://uquid.com/blog/2018/01/uquid-update-17-1-2018

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Quote from: Asteriks on January 16, 2018, 04:17:55 AM

Quote from: servsec on January 13, 2018, 11:06:16 PM

Quote from: Asteriks on January 12, 2018, 04:24:36 AM

Hello
Is this card working with PP and i can withdraw money from PP to it ?
Is this card not blocked by Crest and working now ?
Is this card have support secure online payment technology Mastercard® SecureCode™ or Verified by Visa. ?

i have already registered and planing to buy this card - it is expensive 225$ it is a lot ... so i need answers

Thank You

Forget this card. Let's see about uquid. Their system is under maintenance but I received my card already.

My friend, thank You very much
but today they just stoped to work too (((((((((((

Okay im will use wagecan can anyone say it works now or not Huh

Wagecan is great service - for very long time.

Now one of very few that works.

Despite fees, conversion rates and load delay - its a no brainer.

Seriously - Wagecan rocks.

Cheers - usukan

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Where is WageCan incorporated?

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Haha how can't they guarantee??
It's a CARD. Really unusual. Do they work outside EEA?
Although i don't recommend them!

Would advise to check other options.

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Quote from: servsec on January 13, 2018, 11:06:16 PM

Quote from: Asteriks on January 12, 2018, 04:24:36 AM

Hello
Is this card working with PP and i can withdraw money from PP to it ?
Is this card not blocked by Crest and working now ?
Is this card have support secure online payment technology Mastercard® SecureCode™ or Verified by Visa. ?

i have already registered and planing to buy this card - it is expensive 225$ it is a lot ... so i need answers

Thank You

Forget this card. Let's see about uquid. Their system is under maintenance but I received my card already.

My friend, thank You very much
but today they just stoped to work too (((((((((((

Okay im will use wagecan can anyone say it works now or not Huh

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Quote from: Asteriks on January 12, 2018, 04:24:36 AM

Hello
Is this card working with PP and i can withdraw money from PP to it ?

Not sure, but it should works as I've tried this with other card provider before

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Is this card not blocked by Crest and working now ?

Wagecan card provider is not Wavecrest, hence the reason why they can still distribute cards outside EU

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Is this card have support secure online payment technology Mastercard® SecureCode™ or Verified by Visa. ?

Not sure, you have to ask their support, but most Bitcoin Debit Card doesn't have mastercard securecode for sure

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Is this card have support secure online payment technology Mastercard® SecureCode™ or Verified by Visa. ?

You must be so desperate to waste $225 on plastic debit card

This is my main reason why I won't buy Wagecan, ridiculous price and the fact that they didn't have Virtual Card available
I'm using most of my money for online payment, it's not worth it to have physical card for this reason alone

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Quote from: Asteriks on January 12, 2018, 04:24:36 AM

Hello
Is this card working with PP and i can withdraw money from PP to it ?
Is this card not blocked by Crest and working now ?
Is this card have support secure online payment technology Mastercard® SecureCode™ or Verified by Visa. ?

i have already registered and planing to buy this card - it is expensive 225$ it is a lot ... so i need answers

Thank You

Forget this card. Let's see about uquid. Their system is under maintenance but I received my card already.

Asteriks

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Hello
Is this card working with PP and i can withdraw money from PP to it ?
Is this card not blocked by Crest and working now ?
Is this card have support secure online payment technology Mastercard® SecureCode™ or Verified by Visa. ?

i have already registered and planing to buy this card - it is expensive 225$ it is a lot ... so i need answers

Thank You

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Quote from: mobnepal on November 02, 2017, 07:55:21 AM

Quote from: weiting@Wagecan on November 02, 2017, 03:38:48 AM

Hi bptovtmg,
thanks for asking me this question.
The answer is simple - the cost of the card itself is much more expensive than another card, and the price includes DHL shipping fee.

Yeah DHL shipping is included in the fee so actual card cost is around 80$ without shipping fee because DHL cost around $50.

Why you guys want 1-7 working days to top up cards with bitcoin? Can't you make that instant, also which exchange rates will be used when converting bitcoin into fiat? It will be converted on the day of deposit or when you guys will manually upload balance to our card?

Seems it is done manually. Very strange this "company" anyway.

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Quote from: BillCoin on November 02, 2017, 10:15:29 AM

What's the point of using a referral code instead of you lowering the price?

About the situation, it's either they didn't find the time to answer you yet, or they are uncertain that there card is going to be fully working.

Anyway, Wagecan issuer is Visa, and I am pretty sure that if they were able to get all the documents to get approved( so they can make credit cards behalf visa), then there will be no problem.

Just keep in your mind that after you reach the limit of 2000$ you are no longer able to use the card anymore, so if you gave it to company as a recycling payment, then you will spend some time to change it.

2000$ lifetime limit? Seems that they do not forward the clients documents for verification to their card provider. Look here per sample: https://help.wirexapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001824585-Wirex-unverified-account-limits
Maximum lifetime transactions value: 2000$

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Quote from: weiting@Wagecan on November 02, 2017, 03:38:48 AM

Hi bptovtmg,
thanks for asking me this question.
The answer is simple - the cost of the card itself is much more expensive than another card, and the price includes DHL shipping fee.

As a product manager, I know the price is much more expensive than what we offered before (and I have no power to change it).
That's why I intentionally put 'Use WageCan referral code to get 20% off' on the pricing page and use our referral code to promote our card in this forum.

And there is one thing I would like to point out is that we've been selling Golden card with that price tag way before the whole incident happened. So the whole 'WageCan took advantage the situation to increase the price' argument doesn't hold.
You all could check wayback machine to see our pricing page yourself.

Hope this clear things up a little bit.

Quote from: bpovtmg on October 30, 2017, 12:27:47 PM

Thanks for the anwer, but everybody in this thread being your potential customer would really appreciate your answer why you charge so much like $150+ minimum for issuing the card?

What's the point of using a referral code instead of you lowering the price?

About the situation, it's either they didn't find the time to answer you yet, or they are uncertain that there card is going to be fully working.

Anyway, Wagecan issuer is Visa, and I am pretty sure that if they were able to get all the documents to get approved( so they can make credit cards behalf visa), then there will be no problem.

Just keep in your mind that after you reach the limit of 2000$ you are no longer able to use the card anymore, so if you gave it to company as a recycling payment, then you will spend some time to change it.

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Quote from: weiting@Wagecan on November 02, 2017, 03:38:48 AM

Hi bptovtmg,
thanks for asking me this question.
The answer is simple - the cost of the card itself is much more expensive than another card, and the price includes DHL shipping fee.

Yeah DHL shipping is included in the fee so actual card cost is around 80$ without shipping fee because DHL cost around $50.

Why you guys want 1-7 working days to top up cards with bitcoin? Can't you make that instant, also which exchange rates will be used when converting bitcoin into fiat? It will be converted on the day of deposit or when you guys will manually upload balance to our card?

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Hi bptovtmg,
thanks for asking me this question.
The answer is simple - the cost of the card itself is much more expensive than another card, and the price includes DHL shipping fee.

As a product manager, I know the price is much more expensive than what we offered before (and I have no power to change it).
That's why I intentionally put 'Use WageCan referral code to get 20% off' on the pricing page and use our referral code to promote our card in this forum.

And there is one thing I would like to point out is that we've been selling Golden card with that price tag way before the whole incident happened. So the whole 'WageCan took advantage the situation to increase the price' argument doesn't hold.
You all could check wayback machine to see our pricing page yourself.

Hope this clear things up a little bit.

Quote from: bpovtmg on October 30, 2017, 12:27:47 PM

Thanks for the anwer, but everybody in this thread being your potential customer would really appreciate your answer why you charge so much like $150+ minimum for issuing the card?

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Quote from: bpovtmg on October 30, 2017, 12:27:47 PM

Thanks for the anwer, but everybody in this thread being your potential customer would really appreciate your answer why you charge so much like $150+ minimum for issuing the card?

Because for a large swathe of the world it's now the only game in town? If they're continuing to ask it then they must be getting enough of it to keep the price at that level. I wouldn't be confident holding such a card myself.

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