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Quote from: bitbollo on July 30, 2023, 06:26:06 PM

Dear all,
Here to discuss wagering.
Wagering is an activity to redeem gambling bonuses, increase the rank of your account in a casino and a whole series of other advantages ...
Share your opinion and what are your tips or tricks on this topic

In my opinion, bonuses and other goodies are not worth the amounts that you have to wager to get them. Even if you play games where the house edge is minimal (say 1%), it is unlikely that your bonus will be $10 per thousand, but your average loss will be just that. Maybe it makes sense to look for sports betting in different bookmakers, but it's not easy since the bookmaker's advantage is quite large - 4-6%.

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Quote from: uneng on August 12, 2023, 04:47:50 PM

Wagering is a double edge sword, which tend to work more in the house's favour than in favour of gamblers, because the amount of money you have to spend (and to lose) in order to meet promotions' requirements and to evolve your account is likely to be much superior than the amount of money you will be rewarded from promotions.

Experienced gamblers say we shouldn't persue such bonuses, rather we should let them come in naturally within time, as we play normally. And now I understand they are completely right. After all, wagering can help you to dilute losses, if you are a whale gambler.

On the other hand, for minor casual gamblers, it doesn't make much difference effectively.

Most of the time, your bankroll is already depleted before even you accomplish a quarter of the wagering requirements.
Hence, as you said, don't chase those bonuses or perks rather accept as it goes. Because their conditions are quite difficult to fulfill.
Before you get excited with the rewards attached to your bonuses, read first the terms or requirements, and you would know already the chance of completing it.
This is why I am not also tempted with mouth-watering bonuses, because once you check their terms, you would be disappointed, as if
they don't want you to go home as winner for once. Even 20x wagering requirements sometimes is too hard to achieve, depending on the game that you will play.

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Wagering is a double edge sword, which tend to work more in the house's favour than in favour of gamblers, because the amount of money you have to spend (and to lose) in order to meet promotions' requirements and to evolve your account is likely to be much superior than the amount of money you will be rewarded from promotions.

Experienced gamblers say we shouldn't persue such bonuses, rather we should let them come in naturally within time, as we play normally. And now I understand they are completely right. After all, wagering can help you to dilute losses, if you are a whale gambler.

On the other hand, for minor casual gamblers, it doesn't make much difference effectively.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on August 08, 2023, 01:50:06 AM

Wagering in casinos for the sake of bonuses is indeed, without a doubt, an engaging and sometimes profitable endeavor; it is, after all, an activity. But it can be risky. Tips for wagering? Its not advisable to bet more than you can lose, even though wagering isnt about losing or winning, except when it is. Its wise to read the rules and make sense of them, or not, depending on your understanding of the game.

The rank of your account may or may not improve with wagering. There might be a connection there or there might not be

It can only be profitable if we are lucky because we can get a double win ( from our main game and then in the bonus ) but we shouldn't have a mindset like this at all times because not all times we are lucky and we can end up returning the money that we win last time, if we haven't spend them all yet. Gambling is a form of activity but only risky as the house has more advantage than us.

Your wagering tip is good but if I can add more, that is play on a very low odd game with a little higher bet. You can't get a nice win in here but it's much faster and safer to wager this way. Wagering can be both for losing and winning. We lose money but at the same time it increase our VIP bar and get an exciting rewards later on.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on August 11, 2023, 05:10:08 PM

Quote from: bitbollo on July 30, 2023, 06:26:06 PM

Dear all,
Here to discuss wagering.
Wagering is an activity to redeem gambling bonuses, increase the rank of your account in a casino and a whole series of other advantages ...
Share your opinion and what are your tips or tricks on this topic

Bonus is a part that is always provided by the casino to add excitement to its users. bonuses too, are sometimes helpful for a gambler who has experienced many losses. bonus benefits, clearly enough to give the impression of the gambler himself. casino, always has many features that are definitely always provided for its users.

IMO, for me bonuses are not really an important part even though they actually help a lot, I just prefer to make bets according to what I like. of the many types of casino games available, I tend to bet on football even though I don't use a fixed bankroll. why football, because I really like this one hobby. also, giving a sizable adrenaline when I make a bet. Regarding account rating, it doesn't really matter to me because I'm not trying to increase my account rating. most importantly, I enjoy every betting session that I do regardless of losing or winning.

Exactly. Bonuses are just like that—Bonuses. Nothing more, nothing less. People nowadays think of these extra perks as some sort of right that they must abuse and all that when it's something that the gambling site could take away willy-nilly if they so decide upon it. Some even go so far as to bet extensively just so they can mine the bonuses which is a little counterintuitive and borderline stupid considering that the bonuses aren't even that bombastic to waste money for in the first place.

And there are cases where gambling sites are just outright abusive when it comes to putting out these bonuses, reeling in people with fake bonuses and all that. Which is one of the biggest reasons why you should only deal with reputable casinos like Stake.

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Quote from: bitbollo on July 30, 2023, 06:26:06 PM

Dear all,
Here to discuss wagering.
Wagering is an activity to redeem gambling bonuses, increase the rank of your account in a casino and a whole series of other advantages ...
Share your opinion and what are your tips or tricks on this topic

Bonus is a part that is always provided by the casino to add excitement to its users. bonuses too, are sometimes helpful for a gambler who has experienced many losses. bonus benefits, clearly enough to give the impression of the gambler himself. casino, always has many features that are definitely always provided for its users.

IMO, for me bonuses are not really an important part even though they actually help a lot, I just prefer to make bets according to what I like. of the many types of casino games available, I tend to bet on football even though I don't use a fixed bankroll. why football, because I really like this one hobby. also, giving a sizable adrenaline when I make a bet. Regarding account rating, it doesn't really matter to me because I'm not trying to increase my account rating. most importantly, I enjoy every betting session that I do regardless of losing or winning.

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Quote from: panjul07 on August 10, 2023, 01:22:18 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on August 10, 2023, 08:18:29 AM

Take DICE on Stake.com as an example ... Put it on a 1.0102x Multiplier with a Roll Over of 2 that will give you a Win Chance of 98% .... and then spin say 10 000 x $0.30 bets. (Enable Live Stats and see how slowly it will drain your balance) ......that is wagering and you are slowly boiling like a frog. Roll Eyes

This strategy is the one that usually being used to suggest others when it comes to a question "how to wager safely".
In fact this strategy is not that effective to be used for wager because a single lose means that we need to have hundreds consequtive wins to recover the lose.
I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x

Every gambler has their own method and strategy and what they or you do is definitely the most effective even though it has differences from other people and there is often debate about which one is better.
Maybe you use 1.5x-2x and feel it's pretty good and can be relied on but it's different from some people out there including me because in my opinion 1.0102x is no less good and can be used to increase betting statistics regularly depending on how much money have we bet and how many times we spin it.

But thanks for sharing your experience and maybe I'll try it on what you use to be sure or prove which one is better.
After all, all strategies are also not guaranteed, so the courage to try more strategies is good in my opinion because it can provide more and more experience.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on August 11, 2023, 09:00:13 AM

I wonder if this scheme was ikely profit more for the casinos especially when there's some sort of competition going around? I mean they are asking for that wagering requirement but on the other way around they are making money if it's gonna hit especially for those lowest base, well, they always win though they're the house. I guess not for us but for those whales out there, it's easy for them.

They always profit from these wagering competitions because they encourage the high rollers to start playing again, but i've seen a few who had to take the loss because they weren't popular enough.

Quote from: rdbase on August 11, 2023, 08:56:28 AM

So the casino games name is Auto Roulette La Partage, and which site was this available on again?
I did a search for it under evolution games on the sites that I am familiar with and to no avail with a result.
Also for the French Roulette option, that is the main reason why I don't play it for the high minimum bet amount of $1 per roll.
I prefer to grind it out for a wagering requirement needed with $0.15-0.25 rolls or lower.

I used Livecasino in my last session but it should be available in any casino as long as Evolution is one of their live game providers. If you can't find the game then you might have to navigate through Evolution's games tab by launching any Evolution game, and then click the X on the upper left corner or the lobby button in the lower right corner.

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Quote from: bitbollo on July 30, 2023, 06:26:06 PM

Wagering is an activity to redeem gambling bonuses, increase the rank of your account in a casino and a whole series of other advantages ...
Share your opinion and what are your tips or tricks on this topic

Well, I'll talk about my own thing. It's been a long time since I've sacrificed volume for quality of play when playing poker. In the old days it made more sense because the rakeback programs in many rooms were so good that it was more profitable to be a rakeback player at certain levels in exchange for a certain status than to be a winner at the tables. In other words, it was worth doing a lot of volume, betting a lot more, sacrificing profits at the tables for the rakeback rewards.

But for some time now it just isn't worth it. When I play, I play concentrated, when I'm mentally well, trying to make the moves as EV+ as possible and the rakeback I consider it a complement. I'm not going to play even one more hand to get a certain rakeback because what happens with the current systems is that the most normal thing is that you lose more profits for being more tired or less concentrated than what the rakeback compensates you.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on August 11, 2023, 09:00:13 AM

I wonder if this scheme was ikely profit more for the casinos especially when there's some sort of competition going around? I mean they are asking for that wagering requirement but on the other way around they are making money if it's gonna hit especially for those lowest base, well, they always win though they're the house. I guess not for us but for those whales out there, it's easy for them.

Oh, absolutely! Casinos always have their ways to make the odds work in their favor. That's probably the whole point. Wagering requirements is a clever tactic to keep people playing and hoping for that big win. And you're right, those high-rollers, the whales, they're the ones who can afford to play the game. But the higher the stakes, the higher the risks.

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Quote from: panjul07 on August 10, 2023, 01:22:18 PM

I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x

I believe that if the casino is legit and the games are provably fair, then the math can't be wrong. The lower the multiplier, the less chance of a losing bet, ultimately leading to the highest wagering amount in the long run. However, since these are still games of chance, it is understandable that everyone's experience will be different.

As a noob and want to increase my wager as per the requirements on a bonus round as I can remember it, I always use the minimum bet always so I could increase it. It was really too risky considering your bet could be gone if you lose a bit and I often use it on dice, though you have few risk of hitting lower than that multiplier ut when you hit it, it's like you're world has turned upside down. It has a devastating effect tbh.

Trying out to catch up that wagering requirement and making use of the lowest base bet then it would really be that less risky comparing on setting out on higher risk or odds on which it is really that possible but something that wont really be able for you to reach the finish line or would be able to hit the threshold and this is why some would really be deciding on going with the slow pace and sticking with base bets which it would really be that a common approach. No matter which angle we are really that looking then it would really be just that normal that wagering requirements would really be that something in default whether on deposit or bonuses then it would really be normal that they would be setting out those limits or wagering.

If it was really that easy for us to hit up those wagering requirement then it would really be just that too easy to get out with the platform and we know that its not something that would be doing good with the business.
It is really just that they would normally be doing things that would really be that on their advantage.

I wonder if this scheme was ikely profit more for the casinos especially when there's some sort of competition going around? I mean they are asking for that wagering requirement but on the other way around they are making money if it's gonna hit especially for those lowest base, well, they always win though they're the house. I guess not for us but for those whales out there, it's easy for them.

For me there exist not any great casino promotions in wagering like they used to do before.I remember a couple of years ago that even people playing with minimal bet were allowed to take part on such competitions (now I don't know one that allows you to do so) and the tournament was run for 3-7 days and the person with the highest number of bets,irrelevant from the bet amount would be the winner,so people including me have won in such competitions as I always used Play n Go medieval themes slots like Swords and Holy Grail which keeps you playing longer even with low amounts and as such I have been able to be third one time in such wagering competition.

This type of competition is also very beneficial for the casino as a lot of people take place there and only 5-10 people are rewarded with a prize,all others get nothing.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on August 10, 2023, 05:50:25 PM

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Quote from: panjul07 on August 10, 2023, 01:22:18 PM

I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x

I believe that if the casino is legit and the games are provably fair, then the math can't be wrong. The lower the multiplier, the less chance of a losing bet, ultimately leading to the highest wagering amount in the long run. However, since these are still games of chance, it is understandable that everyone's experience will be different.

As a noob and want to increase my wager as per the requirements on a bonus round as I can remember it, I always use the minimum bet always so I could increase it. It was really too risky considering your bet could be gone if you lose a bit and I often use it on dice, though you have few risk of hitting lower than that multiplier ut when you hit it, it's like you're world has turned upside down. It has a devastating effect tbh.

Trying out to catch up that wagering requirement and making use of the lowest base bet then it would really be that less risky comparing on setting out on higher risk or odds on which it is really that possible but something that wont really be able for you to reach the finish line or would be able to hit the threshold and this is why some would really be deciding on going with the slow pace and sticking with base bets which it would really be that a common approach. No matter which angle we are really that looking then it would really be just that normal that wagering requirements would really be that something in default whether on deposit or bonuses then it would really be normal that they would be setting out those limits or wagering.

If it was really that easy for us to hit up those wagering requirement then it would really be just that too easy to get out with the platform and we know that its not something that would be doing good with the business.
It is really just that they would normally be doing things that would really be that on their advantage.

I wonder if this scheme was ikely profit more for the casinos especially when there's some sort of competition going around? I mean they are asking for that wagering requirement but on the other way around they are making money if it's gonna hit especially for those lowest base, well, they always win though they're the house. I guess not for us but for those whales out there, it's easy for them.

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Quote from: len01 on August 10, 2023, 11:44:27 AM

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Quote from: ralle14 on August 07, 2023, 10:22:48 PM

Quote from: rdbase on August 07, 2023, 06:41:58 PM

Tried seeking out that roulette game but to no avail. Which platform is on if you don't mind posting about it on here.
It might actually help somebody who is having a safer way to wager through to their next vip requirement on the site they are using.

TBH, I like to bet on roulette but only on my favorite site and also often bet on two sides but after hearing @ralle14 experience about La Partage roulette I wanted to try it and also searched on several sites and found this.

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according to the article, I learned that La Partage is in French roulette gold and I searched again and found roulette on one of the sites in this forum. but Im not sure if the game is right as @ralle14 said. i hope this is true. because I have not tried it yet.

I do not recommend anything and anyone to try on this site and I only answer from the questions above.

Don't worry about that. I don't ever bet on sites I am not familiar with and haven't been around for over five years and have not been registered too.
Especially for a casino table game.
It seems this betting strategy can be done on any roulette game just you won't get half your wager back if it lands on the 0 green is all.
So you tried it, and how was your wagering results? How many rolls did it take for you to lose your entire balance?

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Quote from: len01 on August 10, 2023, 11:44:27 AM

according to the article, I learned that La Partage is in French roulette gold and I searched again and found roulette on one of the sites in this forum. but Im not sure if the game is right as @ralle14 said. i hope this is true. because I have not tried it yet.

The table I always play is called "Auto Roulette La Partage", but that game you mentioned is fine. The only difference is that French Roulette Gold has a higher minimum of $1 while the table i've mentioned has a lower minimum of $0.2 per bet.

Quote from: panjul07 on August 10, 2023, 01:22:18 PM

In fact this strategy is not that effective to be used for wager because a single lose means that we need to have hundreds consequtive wins to recover the lose.

I agree, sometimes you'll get two or three losses in every one hundred rolls and it's why i'd try to increase the multiplier to 1.2x or higher to lessen the rolls needed to recover the incoming loss.

So the casino games name is Auto Roulette La Partage, and which site was this available on again?
I did a search for it under evolution games on the sites that I am familiar with and to no avail with a result.
Also for the French Roulette option, that is the main reason why I don't play it for the high minimum bet amount of $1 per roll.
I prefer to grind it out for a wagering requirement needed with $0.15-0.25 rolls or lower.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 10, 2023, 07:36:22 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on August 10, 2023, 08:18:29 AM

I think wagering is just a subtle way for casinos to get back the money that they pay out in rewards. People never wager with 3rd party Slots because the RTP will quickly clean out their balance... but the in-house games with the good RTP are similar to slow boiling a frog in a pot.

Take DICE on Stake.com as an example ... Put it on a 1.0102x Multiplier with a Roll Over of 2 that will give you a Win Chance of 98% .... and then spin say 10 000 x $0.30 bets. (Enable Live Stats and see how slowly it will drain your balance) ......that is wagering and you are slowly boiling like a frog. Roll Eyes

This is one of the strategies that was recommended to me if I want to get to VIP status as fast as I can. But hell no, I'd rather let the RTP decide how it will bring me back to my initial balance while I am pursuing the jackpot prize.
I guess those who had been thinking they will get a lot of money in their VIP ranks totally rushed things out and now those same people are recommending the same. But there are good high-ranking guys that will tell you not to do it and just enjoy the game as much as possible not rush things out because we will get there somehow although it will take time.
With how much they spent wagering is not enough to ROI from all the VIP bonuses and features. So, might as well just keep on pursuing the jackpot while my wagering amount is climbing.

If it were me I'd take the slow grind with small bets than rushing things out to get the bonus but that's just me. I want to get the most experience out of the money that I deposit on the casino instead of getting the bonuses or the tiers, hence why I don't get any rankings of some sort on the casinos that I play on.

I might try to chase bonuses soon, though right now, I know that it will eat a lot of my time.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 10, 2023, 08:18:29 AM

I think wagering is just a subtle way for casinos to get back the money that they pay out in rewards. People never wager with 3rd party Slots because the RTP will quickly clean out their balance... but the in-house games with the good RTP are similar to slow boiling a frog in a pot.

Take DICE on Stake.com as an example ... Put it on a 1.0102x Multiplier with a Roll Over of 2 that will give you a Win Chance of 98% .... and then spin say 10 000 x $0.30 bets. (Enable Live Stats and see how slowly it will drain your balance) ......that is wagering and you are slowly boiling like a frog. Roll Eyes

This is one of the strategies that was recommended to me if I want to get to VIP status as fast as I can. But hell no, I'd rather let the RTP decide how it will bring me back to my initial balance while I am pursuing the jackpot prize.
I guess those who had been thinking they will get a lot of money in their VIP ranks totally rushed things out and now those same people are recommending the same. But there are good high-ranking guys that will tell you not to do it and just enjoy the game as much as possible not rush things out because we will get there somehow although it will take time.
With how much they spent wagering is not enough to ROI from all the VIP bonuses and features. So, might as well just keep on pursuing the jackpot while my wagering amount is climbing.

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Quote from: panjul07 on August 10, 2023, 01:22:18 PM

I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x

I believe that if the casino is legit and the games are provably fair, then the math can't be wrong. The lower the multiplier, the less chance of a losing bet, ultimately leading to the highest wagering amount in the long run. However, since these are still games of chance, it is understandable that everyone's experience will be different.

As a noob and want to increase my wager as per the requirements on a bonus round as I can remember it, I always use the minimum bet always so I could increase it. It was really too risky considering your bet could be gone if you lose a bit and I often use it on dice, though you have few risk of hitting lower than that multiplier ut when you hit it, it's like you're world has turned upside down. It has a devastating effect tbh.

Trying out to catch up that wagering requirement and making use of the lowest base bet then it would really be that less risky comparing on setting out on higher risk or odds on which it is really that possible but something that wont really be able for you to reach the finish line or would be able to hit the threshold and this is why some would really be deciding on going with the slow pace and sticking with base bets which it would really be that a common approach. No matter which angle we are really that looking then it would really be just that normal that wagering requirements would really be that something in default whether on deposit or bonuses then it would really be normal that they would be setting out those limits or wagering.

If it was really that easy for us to hit up those wagering requirement then it would really be just that too easy to get out with the platform and we know that its not something that would be doing good with the business.
It is really just that they would normally be doing things that would really be that on their advantage.

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Quote from: len01 on August 10, 2023, 11:44:27 AM

according to the article, I learned that La Partage is in French roulette gold and I searched again and found roulette on one of the sites in this forum. but Im not sure if the game is right as @ralle14 said. i hope this is true. because I have not tried it yet.

The table I always play is called "Auto Roulette La Partage", but that game you mentioned is fine. The only difference is that French Roulette Gold has a higher minimum of $1 while the table i've mentioned has a lower minimum of $0.2 per bet.

Quote from: panjul07 on August 10, 2023, 01:22:18 PM

In fact this strategy is not that effective to be used for wager because a single lose means that we need to have hundreds consequtive wins to recover the lose.

I agree, sometimes you'll get two or three losses in every one hundred rolls and it's why i'd try to increase the multiplier to 1.2x or higher to lessen the rolls needed to recover the incoming loss.

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Quote from: FatFork on August 10, 2023, 05:17:04 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on August 10, 2023, 01:22:18 PM

I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x

I believe that if the casino is legit and the games are provably fair, then the math can't be wrong. The lower the multiplier, the less chance of a losing bet, ultimately leading to the highest wagering amount in the long run. However, since these are still games of chance, it is understandable that everyone's experience will be different.

As a noob and want to increase my wager as per the requirements on a bonus round as I can remember it, I always use the minimum bet always so I could increase it. It was really too risky considering your bet could be gone if you lose a bit and I often use it on dice, though you have few risk of hitting lower than that multiplier ut when you hit it, it's like you're world has turned upside down. It has a devastating effect tbh.

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Quote from: panjul07 on August 10, 2023, 01:22:18 PM

I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x

I believe that if the casino is legit and the games are provably fair, then the math can't be wrong. The lower the multiplier, the less chance of a losing bet, ultimately leading to the highest wagering amount in the long run. However, since these are still games of chance, it is understandable that everyone's experience will be different.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 10, 2023, 08:18:29 AM

Take DICE on Stake.com as an example ... Put it on a 1.0102x Multiplier with a Roll Over of 2 that will give you a Win Chance of 98% .... and then spin say 10 000 x $0.30 bets. (Enable Live Stats and see how slowly it will drain your balance) ......that is wagering and you are slowly boiling like a frog. Roll Eyes

This strategy is the one that usually being used to suggest others when it comes to a question "how to wager safely".
In fact this strategy is not that effective to be used for wager because a single lose means that we need to have hundreds consequtive wins to recover the lose.
I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x

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