Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 10128. (Read 26731332 times)

Where the hell did you ever get that idea? I have never said that I believe Wright is Satoshi. Indeed, I have publicly stated several times right here within this thread that I consider the prospect unlikely. Though possible.


Well, I've never interacted with him directly. Accordingly, it is rather hard to gauge moral character. But I have seen nothing in his actions that would make me suspect that he would commit aggression against another.


Again, I don't know what contributions he has made, as opposed to others in the organizations with whom he is associated. Though I have listened to a number of his statements, read a number of his posts, and studied a few of his patents. In the above, I have seen some unique insights that have turned out to be true, some points that the community has ridiculed that still seem they may be true, some things that I believe were outright errors, etc. So as with pretty much everybody, the story is somewhat of a mixed bag. But from the evidence at hand, yes. I find the term 'tech genius' is likely warranted.


What mistake? Allegedly claiming that a certain address was his, when it may have been shown not to be? I dunno. Let's see what the trial brings out on the topic.

Why all the questions for me?

usability and accessibility are some key factors to make a technology successful. LN developers know what and are working hard on apps with good user experience.

Do you know these LN projects?

Android/IOS Apps
BlueWallet - https://bluewallet.io/
Wallet of Satoshi - https://www.walletofsatoshi.com/

LN node
Spark + c-lightning for the DIY - https://medium.com/@notgrubles/spark-a-new-gui-for-c-lightning-2cf2f024500c
casa node for the lazy - https://store.casa/lightning-node/

Services
Lightning Pizza - https://ln.pizza/
polofeed - https://pollofeed.com/

I know this is a tendency that people have, but I still have difficulties giving a lot of sympathy to the wait for lower prices approach.

For sure, I sympathize with the approach of "still having money available" in case the price goes to $2,700-$2,800, and even having had been prepared for  "still having money available" for a whole hell of a lot lower BTC prices that are quite a bit lower than reasonable expectations, because we know that BTC can be unreasonable and has shown a decent number of times to be unreasonable, but I still have difficulties with having regrets about not buying.

In my thinking, you buy whatever you are able to buy while still being prepared for either UP or DOWN.  Even I was running low on fiat funds, especially after the BTC price dropped below $6k because I largely bought a decent amount back with the nearly 70% plunge down to $6k.  So, yeah, when the plunge got close to the 85% territory (which was the $3,122 area), I did not have a lot of money left for buying BTC... and I had to restructure some of my available dollars and to re-figure out some future cashflow  in order to at least have some money that I would be able to use in the event that BTC were to go even lower than that $3,122 local low...   

So, yeah, having money available and re-thinking the situation should be a pretty normal and prudent exercise that any BTC HODLer/accumulator would do, so once the cash flow and the cash holdings and the expenses are figured out, we still had about 4.5 months in that sub $4k price area to figure out how much of our funds that we could buy at that point and how much we needed to keep in reserves in case the price went lower than the then local low of $3,122. 

Maybe any regrets would be of having had not set a sufficient amount of time to really consider one's personal situation, and then once the BTC price went up on 4/1/19 and broke through $4,200 not to have regrets about whatever, position that a guy (or gal) had taken prior to 4/1/19?

So, in that regard, the main conundrum should have been to ponder about what could be learned from the situation.  What can be learned to make better assessments in the present based on present circumstances that includes considerations of what will happen in the future and being able to reconsider when the future time comes, as well.... 

TLDR: I do understand that people can sometimes feel "regrets" yet feeling regrets should be a motivator for learning, and such learning would be how to spend a sufficient amount of time to consider one's own situation, finances and thoughts, in order to lessen any kind of likelihood of feeling regrets in the future.

Bitcoin is in competition with physical gold as a store of value. It has to prove his reliability over the centuries as gold did, Bitcoin is ingot 10 years old, still can fail, but I see good chance can achieve constant real purchasing power over very long time arc as gold did.

LN is in competition for MoP, mean of payments,  with credit cards, until the user experience is not at par with credit cards, you can basically use without even taking it out your wallet , or integrated in your mobile (Apple Pay) Lightning Network will face tough competition.
In addition to that credit card have some advantages: for example censurability for small payments could be a nice feature ( what if the merchant charges an erroneous amount and I don’t immediately realise it?)
We are bitcoiner, but we don’ Need to be zealots.

   Unfortunately, even when they come up with a SPV version, in order to ensure your channel partners don't try to close the channel with an earlier tx is to remain online at all times. They are working on getting watchtower services up to watch your channel while your node is not online. However, once again, this is third party. Also, there is the quandary that in order to make sure your funds are secure, you node must be online. However, your funds are now stored in a hot wallet, which is not the most secure...

dark, of the radar.....

Only 3rd party services at the moment. But I agree that in the future the process needs to be simplified. There should be an Electrum-like version of connectivity that bypasses having to run a full node while still maintaining some degree of independence for the user.

There's a $35 version of Raspberry Pi out there, but it still requires a good deal of determination and know-how to set up a LN channel.

@Elwar

I agree with you, I also want LN to work and it will be easier in the future, there is a lot of money investing in this field.

I liked the article because they respect the origin of BTC.

At this moment I am not interested in LN, I will not pay for coffee with BTC.

I am glad to hear from you.

Seriously Cryptotourist, indeed I do.

But a direct request was made of me. One that I cannot fulfill. It would probably be rude to just drop the request without the benefit of my reply.

And yes, having to clarify misrepresentations of The Other Bitcoins does indeed get tiresome. But I soldier on. Because truth is important.

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Oh. You "heard". How unsurprising. Right here in the echo chamber.

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OK, that was marginally funny. Touche'.

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No. While exaggerated, r0ach has a point. Additional increase in price will inevitably result in increased hashpower thrown at mining. The natural state (once supply and demand shocks stop oscillating) is that the money expended upon mining opex + capex + marginal profit will be equal to the value of the mining rewards (block reward plus tx fees). Bitcoin hashing chips are already darned near the state of the art, meaning that the generational benefits of new hardware is slowing. Accordingly, capex will have a longer profitable time horizon, leading to the above equation being even more dominated by opex -- which is in turn energy cost.

Efficiency has nothing to do with the amount of energy expended in mining. More efficient HW just means that more hashpower will be put into service, until the energy cost expended brings the above equation back into balance.

How good to see Elwar around

Roach is what happens to someone who dumped, never bought back and got left in the dust. Run over might be a better way to put it. All of his rants are nothing more than him expressing the anguish and regret he feels. He shouldn't be ignored, he should be pitied and used as a warning to others. His obsession with his own failings is going to get worse soon, a lot worse after the next halving.

I want LN to work but setting up a wallet is not as simple as downloading a bitcoin wallet and adding some funds.
Last time I tried it I either had to have a node running that I attach to, or use some service that runs a node for me. And even then, I had a hard time with it.

It's a similar problem with OpenBazaar. To buy or sell you need to download the software and run a node or pay for a service.

It reminds me of when I was trying to use gold as a currency. You could pay for a service to hold your gold and secure it and then pay a percentage to spend it via a debit card. The whole point of why I like Bitcoin is that you don't have to pay a monthly fee for someone to secure it for you.

Is there technology down the pipe that will make LN more user friendly? Is it possible?

FTFY