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jr. member
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Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.

About 75% - ish - give or take a few percentage points

Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.

High. But I think it's going to be long road with much adversity. Despite it being half the ATH, I think a return to five figures will be the equivalent of getting back over $1000 and that was a three year grind. It'll be a huge hump that needs taking out and once it is a great deal of confidence will flow back in from the outside.

Huh?  

Getting above $10k would be like getting above $700 in 2016.. Not $1k.  It is not as difficult, but still far from certain.... I will stick with my 75% estimate - yet, even, leaning towards the upside..towards 80%, perhaps?

@bitserve

Some think 100% for very real, cause Some are real ALL IN with BTC......

That is called gambling.... and would be dumb - even though quite a few people think like that.


"10k next year, more than 20k next 4 year" because bitcoin ETF will not be approved and gov will not regulat exchanges.
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Bitcoin BTC Transaction Fees Are at Their Lowest in Six Years

https://www.longhash.com/news/bitcoin-btc-transaction-fees-are-at-their-lowest-in-six-years


"Bitcoin’s fees have historically increased when the network is under high demand. That is why the median cost per transaction rose exponentially alongside the currency’s explosion in price in late 2017. At that time, the median fee per Bitcoin transaction reached as high as 226,000 satoshis on December 22, 2017, according to information sourced from Bitcoin Visuals.

On January 1, 2019, on the other hand, a Bitcoin transaction had a median fee of just 660 satoshis. If this sounds like a lot, it might help you to hear that the rough equivalent in USD is around $0.02."
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
when you realize that ethereum has a fork jan 16th and needs a healthy bitcoin to support the pump...same whales always in sync.

oh ffs ... the crypto fork shit is getting old..... that was soooo 2017

jeeezus, I love posting in this thread with no hat. Now I feel special.

btw... where the phuk is wordyman?


Hahahahahaha

So nice to be missed.  



... but wtf is JJG?

VR type holidays, sponsored by BTC Tongue

Just had too many things to wrap up at the end of the year that carried into the new year.... mostly out of the crunch-period, now.  Not BTC related.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
It’s a significant PR win for Bitmex.  I have somewhat mixed feelings about it given that XBT is a synthetic.

The Bitmex Research tends to be very good.

I do wonder about the volume on Bitmex though.  I have had slippage of up to $75 on relatively small orders on big moves.  Never had that on other exchanges. That degree of slippage concerns me, makes me feel I am being front run by their trading engine.  It certainly doesn’t feel like the most liquid exchange in Bitcoinland.  


I did not know that you were a "whale" Hairy.


I though that you were a mediocre fish, and fit into this lil' WO club?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Hahaha I’m no whale.  My puny fish stop orders are getting mixed up with whale market orders and I’m getting executed last.  Trying to avoid market orders on Bitmex for this reason - you get really screwed. 
legendary
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The significance of this runs way back to the country’s 40-year-old grievance with France’s private banking system. The French government borrows from them and is forced to repay with high-interest, plunging the country into further debt.


Holy shit. That sounds like something from the daily stormer. France has to borrow its money from the Rothschilds with interest?

Eh isn’t that the definition of US government bonds?
legendary
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Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.

About 75% - ish - give or take a few percentage points

Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.

High. But I think it's going to be long road with much adversity. Despite it being half the ATH, I think a return to five figures will be the equivalent of getting back over $1000 and that was a three year grind. It'll be a huge hump that needs taking out and once it is a great deal of confidence will flow back in from the outside.

Huh?  

Getting above $10k would be like getting above $700 in 2016.. Not $1k.  It is not as difficult, but still far from certain.... I will stick with my 75% estimate - yet, even, leaning towards the upside..towards 80%, perhaps?

@bitserve

Some think 100% for very real, cause Some are real ALL IN with BTC......

That is called gambling.... and would be dumb - even though quite a few people think like that.

sr. member
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Crypto Casino & Sportsbook


In the near future!))
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist

The significance of this runs way back to the country’s 40-year-old grievance with France’s private banking system. The French government borrows from them and is forced to repay with high-interest, plunging the country into further debt.


Holy shit. That sounds like something from the daily stormer. France has to borrow its money from the Rothschilds with interest?
legendary
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1 to 5 trillion dollars flowing into Bitcoin is a modest estimation  Shocked

legendary
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It’s a significant PR win for Bitmex.  I have somewhat mixed feelings about it given that XBT is a synthetic.

The Bitmex Research tends to be very good.

I do wonder about the volume on Bitmex though.  I have had slippage of up to $75 on relatively small orders on big moves.  Never had that on other exchanges. That degree of slippage concerns me, makes me feel I am being front run by their trading engine.  It certainly doesn’t feel like the most liquid exchange in Bitcoinland.  


I did not know that you were a "whale" Hairy.


I though that you were a mediocre fish, and fit into this lil' WO club?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


That moment JJG realizes hes not alone in the pool..

legendary
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This is going to be a lot of fun if this is true.

Combine this situation with a collapsing stock market Cool



I stand in solidarity with my yellow vested bullish brothers.BTC Smiley

https://ad-venturing.com/2019/01/07/withdraw-your-money-from-the-banks-yellow-vest-movement/

Same for me Lambie Slayer, those people got my full support!

The French goverment didn't made any rational concessions towards the people beside acting like a Pinoccio, no wonder why they are still pissed.

Updated: the word is spreading on social media about a possible run on banks.

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The yellow vests have so far organized their protests largely on social media. According to the Facebook event mentioned above, some 300 have confirmed and more than 3,000 are interested in attending the protest at the Rothschild Bank of Lyon tomorrow.

The significance of this runs way back to the country’s 40-year-old grievance with France’s private banking system. The French government borrows from them and is forced to repay with high-interest, plunging the country into further debt.

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If every French person converted 20% of their bank deposits into Bitcoin… French banks and the government would collapse and a lot of bloodshed could be avoided.

https://bitcoinist.com/yellow-vests-in-france-planning-a-bank-run-to-collapse-the-euro/
legendary
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Here’s the thing.  If you keep pumping a shitcoin run by a money launderer and a con man, but you won’t even commit to that shitcoin, then you will justifiably be called out as a hypocrite and shill each time you raise the issue.  

Unless you're running your entire life free of fiat, you've got no room to spout off.

You are undoubtedly clever and undoubtedly deliberately obtuse.

Your comment would carry weight if I was shilling the virtues of fiat over Bitcoin. I am not.

Don’t come into our house and shit on the floor and expect not to be consistently challenged over it. Alternatively accept that this is a Bitcoin community, and conduct yourself accordingly.   The choice is yours.

Indeed, the choice is mine. When confronted with misunderstandings, untruths, or lies about other satoshi forks, I will continue to inject some much-needed corrective perspective.

This 'house' is not yours. It is theymos'. And through delegation, infofront's. You have no power here. If theymos, infofront, or another delegate deign to shit-can my posts, then so be it. But all your yapping is just so much impotent bullshit.

Incidentally, I am not 'shitting on the floor' as you so eloquently phrase it (not). The only negative comments I voice here about BTC are truthful observations of the inherent properties of that fork, or logical speculation based upon those properties.

Oddly enough, your suggestion for me to diversify totally out of BTC in favor of the other satoshi forks would actually provide incentive for me to act in the manner in which you incorrectly ascribe to me. Perhaps some self reflection upon your actions and utterances would be beneficial to your likely goals.

So get the fuck out with your attempted behavior modification. Or don't. I don't care.


Your portfolio allocations are relevant, jbreher.. and you seem to have a decent stake in bcash variants...

Let's say hypothetically, you still have more than 80% in BTC, then maybe in those circumstances, your hedging could be justified, but it seems to me that you are hedging in shitcoins BIGGER than that.... and surely, many times, your rhetoric is not helpful to discussion points in this thread... and even if some of us might not agree with the specifics of hairy's criticisms of your participation in this thread, he, still, seems to have pointed out some quite apparent disinqenuineness coming out of your keyboard on a fairly regular basis.. which as hairy suggests justifies any of us targeting you and attacking your points (even viciously), even if you have not gotten banned or suspended from this thread.
legendary
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It’s a significant PR win for Bitmex.  I have somewhat mixed feelings about it given that XBT is a synthetic.

The Bitmex Research tends to be very good.

I do wonder about the volume on Bitmex though.  I have had slippage of up to $75 on relatively small orders on big moves.  Never had that on other exchanges. That degree of slippage concerns me, makes me feel I am being front run by their trading engine.  It certainly doesn’t feel like the most liquid exchange in Bitcoinland.  


I did not know that you were a "whale" Hairy.


I though that you were a mediocre fish, and fit into this lil' WO club?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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i wonder what would be the real btc price without bitfinex manipulating it

In the long run, more or less the same, give or take 1%

In the short run, more or less the same, give or take 5%

In other words, bitcoin does not give a flying shit about the "playings around" (if true) of one exchange.
legendary
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[edited out]

That queue is a cue to really go with the trend or the future of money. I may be a newbie with this industry but Bitcoin, blockchain and cryptocurrencies really has future to create massive change especially in finance, economy, government etc.,

Why you talking about blockchain and cryptocurrencies, and mixing bitcoin into the topic?

1) This thread is not about "blockchain" and "cryptocurrencies"

and

2) You thinking is muddied if you believe that you need to include those amorphous concepts in the discussion, without sufficiently being able to make your point by focusing on bitcoin.


In other words, focus your thinking.





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legendary
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Proof of Stake:  designed to centralize into monopoly or cartel
Proof of Work:   designed to centralize into monopoly or cartel

Shows that you, roach, do not understand proof of work.

And, who gives a shit about proof of stake?  That shit is going to show itself soon enough to NOT be offering anything different from status quo systems.  The smarter folks are not going to be buying into the proof of stake hype.
legendary
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Hey Jbear have you gone all in on SV yet?  If not, what’s the hold up?

Jeebus. This shit again. What bidnez is it of yours? None.

FWIW, I have already posted several times that I hold many more units of BCH -- and thereby SV as well as ABC -- than BTC. A trade for which I am now unfortunately underwater.











By an entire four-tenths of one percent.


How about this.  You stop spreading Bcash propaganda on this thread and I’ll stop asking you to put your money where your mouth is.  Do we have a deal?

hahahahahaaha



That "deal" is not going to happen.
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Great.  

I guarantee you Fox News articles on ‘sjw’ issues v human rights issues are 100:1

Left-ism is a mental disorder based on inferiority complex.  You do not have the right to project your mental disorder onto others and demand they conform to your insanity.

Radical leftism is shit, most will agree, but its a flawed ideology, not a mental illness. Not understanding heliocentric theory isnt crazy, its just ignorance.

But lets talk about real mental illness. Are you still not willing to admit you are a paranoid schizophrenic? Do you really think your life is healthy rn? Go visit any psychiatrist and they will diagnose you with this in 30 minutes. You are a textbook case. Do you ever reflect on yourself at all or are you completely unaware of your condition and problems its causing you?

This bull market will push your illness over the edge if you dont seek treatment.
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