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legendary
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I think we are gradually destroying the plants, animals and environment we live in and I cannot respect anyone who considers it is not - at the very least... a problem.

We (as a whole) are probably doing just that, but what's the solution?
7 bil cannot eat natural food, albeit, one can do it if he/she has enough resources/money.
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
legendary
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I've actually been thinking about how viable a salmon or whatever pond/lake/farm on private property could be. I looked into it but found hardly anything useful beyond a basic confirmation that it's possible. Do you happen to have any idea as to how small scaled fish-farming could be made and how economical/costly it would be or have any reading pointers otherwise? Basically trying to figure out if it's mostly initial fixed costs or if it'll cost a fortune in sustaining. Would love a fucking salmon farm on my property.

I'm not sure salmon, being anadromous, can be reared in ponds, perhaps.

The salmon farms around here occupy valuable estuary areas and are severely infested with some sort of aquatic lice which then attack the young wild salmon as they come down to the salt water.

Same as it ever was.


Yep, spot on.

Personally I have stopped buying farmed fish.  It's not just because of the sea lice, either.  Norwegian salmon farms have severe disease problems which - via imported young - have infected and drastically depleted formerly plentiful Canadian Pacific wild salmon stocks.  If you knew what wild salmon should look like (and I do), you would never buy the farmed mutant version supermarkets sell you as so-called 'sustainably sourced' fish.

There is a fight in Iceland (with good wild Atlantic salmon stocks like those which were once everywhere) to stop farming in areas where wild salmon run. I support this and I do know a little about it.  However, commercial farmed fish is now almost all you can buy if you want to buy 'salmon' in a supermarket in many parts of the west. Most people don't realise what this actaully means - they think fish is just fish and don't care.

It's not just salmon, either.  In Turkey, sea bass are being bred with appalling quality control and dubious growing methods.  Fish that is possibly not chemically fit for human consumption is being fed into the European market - again described as 'sustainable'.

Fish farming is not a simple solution and is woefully unregulated, it is actually decreasing wild stocks and giving us unquestioned production of unhealthy fish in the pursuit of profit.  Plus ça change.  Fish is a great food, but wild stocks are collapsing and human kind will lose yet another food resource that it really needs and could save with better husbandry.

Dismissing all environmental cocerns as 'socialist' and namby pamby shit is puerile and flies in the face of any eruditely researched evidence.  It even affects the food from our once-abundant sustainable envrironment.  We need to look after it, and open our eyes to how big business provides solutions that are actually not solutions at all, but dangerous and unhealthy (if very profitable) alternatives, which reduce the option for a healhier choice by killing it off.

'Be careful what you eat' is not a bad maxim, but fish stock destruction is just a symptom of a wider malaise.  And if that makes me a socialist for just saying I want the right to eat healthy, real natural undoctored food, well...  shoot me?  

I think we are gradually destroying the plants, animals and environment we live in and I cannot respect anyone who considers it is not - at the very least... a problem.

EDIT: spelling
legendary
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WO's do NOW and do remember ^
they will always come and disappear from this place
legendary
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If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

Spoken like a bot....

I start to suspect several posters not to be actual typing humans.

I'm a Muscovite, I use a translator

no muscovite calls themself a muscovite.
but, how does it call himself/herself?
if answered in more than 30 sec...
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
This is pretty much what I've been looking for. Do you have any idea if it's possible to balance out multiple types of fish/shrimp in a way that doesn't have either population dwindle to zero? And to what extent do you have to worry about how many you can eat, or is your pond strictly decorative?


+2 WOsMerit

I think you can have predators and prey in the same pond so long as you have a big pond with lots and lots of hiding places for the prey.  No experience with salmon or shrimp but at a guess you could try bundles of large rocks in wire cages.  That would create lots of hiding spots and crevices especially if you built the pond walls that way but it would obviously increase your set up costs.

Our pond is decorative and not that big but can support a fair amount of life.   So a big pond would easily support enough for your dinner table just not commercial quantities.  If you want to do it cheap, the best way to do it is have the fish eat plants that grow in the pond and insects that fall in / lay their eggs in the pond. That way it all naturally balances out.



hero member
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If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

Spoken like a bot....

I start to suspect several posters not to be actual typing humans.

I'm a Muscovite, I use a translator
legendary
Activity: 3990
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If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

Spoken like a bot....

I start to suspect several posters not to be actual typing humans.

i'm just an english writing forum bot  Cheesy  Undecided

not you, pal.
nooooo!
legendary
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I always wandered what exactly "bro down" meant there.
Like 'bro is down and out' or 'bro is down for some ka-ching!
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

Spoken like a bot....

I start to suspect several posters not to be actual typing humans.

i'm just an english writing forum bot  Cheesy  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 13618
BTC + Crossfit, living life.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 4597
If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

Spoken like a bot....

I start to suspect several posters not to be actual typing humans.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
hmmm, little debart doesn't seem to have it to break 3650
legendary
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Self made HODLER ✓
Whew, a Keto Health Coach. Better listen to the guy.

Someone has potentially trashed his opsec somewhere around there..... Unless it is intentional, of course.
He's a Mensa Member. He doesn't need opsec.

Not that one....
hero member
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Whew, a Keto Health Coach. Better listen to the guy.

Someone has potentially trashed his opsec somewhere around there..... Unless it is intentional, of course.
He's a Mensa Member. He doesn't need opsec.
legendary
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Be a bank
dickhead whale-herons
legendary
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Da fuk happened in here?
JJG finally takes a break and ya'll encouraging r0ach to fill the gap?  Whoa.. Roll Eyes  However due to the engagement,  I'm finally understanding how his mind works and why he persists here.  And I thought it was just trolling all along.  

Yeah JJG is long time, probably to busy @the holliday dayzzz, if he has the same amount of Words to spread @ the family table, or when one asking him “how is that BTC thing?”
Yeah than the party isn’t over yet haha
Grin

he was being a monumental prick that last night he was here, perhaps an epic hangover?

Ya, finally earned himself an ignore and ironically I'm reading roach posts. Haha
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
sr. member
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Going down, just like all of 2018. Ho hum...
legendary
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Self made HODLER ✓
Whew, a Keto Health Coach. Better listen to the guy.

Someone has potentially trashed his opsec somewhere around there..... Unless it is intentional, of course.
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