Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 12053. (Read 26709357 times)

TLDR:  We have far bigger problems than c02 like the evil cult of Judaism.

jojo69 I'm going to reply because I respect your contributions, good humour and seemingly easy grasp of common sense of most complicated matters (you may have imbibed a little too much of the eco-facist Kool-aid to see the forest for the trees here though)

You've got the cart before the horse, logically speaking. In hindsight, the IPCC was set-up with the goal of creating a manufactured crisis (or hijacked), any dissenting scientists of the initial IPCC were hounded out of the organisation over the years, sometimes viciously.  More than a few of the most effective dissenters have had curiously early-age heart attack deaths, but that's hard to say if there is a 'statistical fingerprint' of foul-play afoot. Of the "97%" consensus, it takes only 1 lone voice of the remaining 3% to be correct for them all to be wrong, that's science, ask Einstein.


let's take these one at a time;

1) ocean acidification ... this is a bogus made up term to begin with, the oceans are alkali with pH around 8.2, they are not acid, have never been acid. It's a typical scary word propaganda trick to think humans are making the oceans acid ( zero OMG!! bad humans), the correct scientific term if you were referring to a tiny change in pH from dissolved CO2 would be dealkalinization ... btw CO2 dissolving in the oceans is a major route for permanent sequestration of carbon into lime, chalk, etc deposits via calcium carbonates used structurally by invertebrates and crustaceans.

2) species loss ... ok maybe this is an issue, it's subjective and depends on your feelings though. Massive extinction events have happened regularly in the Earth's past from various means. How much species diversity is exactly the right amount? do you feel like playing god to determine that? humans have cultivated huge quantities of biomass in the form of crops, cows, sheep, pigs, chickens, there are probably more animals alive on the planet today than at any time in the past, let's celebrate mammalian abundance husbanded by humans! ... are they just not the "right" animals for your liking? my liking? his liking? should we all be living in teepees and hunting the roaming meager herds of buffalo in competition with wolves and large cats? Who really knows what is the right balance for number of species and quantities of each species that should be alive on earth at any particular time? It's just an excessively complicated question to believe anyone who claims to know the answer, they are just bullshitting you to gain an advantage over you somehow.

3) collapsing fisheries stock ... yep totally agree with you here, it sucks, people are stupid and greedy and the tragedy of the commons will prevail any time you get a shared resource situation like this. I think inevitably aquaculture will alleviate this in the near to not-too-distant future. Fish-farming has come a long way fast since price of wild fish started spiking after stocks collapse, locally I've seen some great ventures in exotic fish species, delicacies that were always thought too hard to be farmed, lobster, abalone, white-bait, scallops, etc. In fact, I suggest invest, aquaculture is going to have a great profitable future and its good for our local habitat (I mean who doesn't love to go fishing for realz?)

4) depleting fresh water aquifers ... yep totally agree again. Tragedy of the commons strikes again, mix in brain-dead socialist politicians looking to milk tense local water rights situations and the resulting mess is all but inevitable. I don't know any good solutions to fresh water problems, historically they are solved by wars, reduced populations, enforced conservation (rationing), then dams. Desalination from an abundant energy discovery is a fringe possibility (fusion or etc).

Yeah dude, 0.04 % CO2 in our Air. Its a huuuuuuuge problem. Wow.



Atmosphere of Earth   -    Percentage

Nitrogen    N2    78.084
Oxygen    O2    20.946
Argon    Ar    0.9340
Carbon dioxide    0.04
Neon    Ne    0.001818
Helium    He    0.000524
Methane    CH4    0.000179



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth



looks like it already affected you..

85% of the plants on earth use C3 photosynthesis, which are generally c02 starved, while C4 plants aren't.  Theoretically, increasing c02 will cause the C3 plants to become more efficient, probably propagate more in domain and size, and also store more c02 at the same time, pulling it out of the atmosphere.  C3 plants should store more up to whatever point it hits diminishing returns.  Rice and cannabis are C3 plants, while corn is a C4 for instance.

+1 WOsMerit

Like I didn't explain very well, a holistic multidisciplinary approach is probably best.     My problem with the co2 thing is like I posted awhile back..I thought I did anyway...  Meh..regardless once co2 levels reach a certain threshold there is a possibility of cognitive loss in homo sapiens. If we get to stoopid to deal with ever mounting and complex issues..well..the next iteration that comes along in a few hundred million years give or take can start trying to figure it out all over again.

Despite all of this I have hope. More than that, I have conviction in what I am saying. I believe societies can live in harmony and that together we can solve these problems. I reinforce these convictions not only to my peers but also to my representatives every way I can, not only vocally but with my wallet as well. I highly encourage everyone to do the same. 


+1 WOsMerit @Arriemoller

That I do agree on.
We will soon be on co2 levels that affects our cognitive abilities. It is rising quickly and we will soon all be breathing air equivalent to that in a closed room with no ventilation full of students at the end of a double class.
And that will make us all stupider.

Let's get the roach devirginized, I heard there are certain women accepting bitcoin nowadays.

Not sure I understand the question.  If you are asking what is the most reputable exchange - Bitstamp.

Where do most of you put your orders?

C02, not even close.  This is the world's scariest chart.  Gonna need to build a really big wall.

ocean acidification, species loss, collapsing fisheries stocks, depleting fresh water aquifers, the list goes on

I really have to take issue with the implied idea that there is some specific lever we can throw, in this case co2, and continue on our merry way.

We need to completely rethink our relationship with our, very finite, biome and stop behaving like petulant valley girls with daddy's credit card.

#NonAggregateMarketSolelyComposedOfCliffFaceRisesAndFalls

These are hardcore, pure faggot-scam markets.

At maximum resistance. Tenken sen encountering cloud. Lagging span at edge of cliff. Crossed MACD. Interesting times.


#stronghands2019

Yes and yes. And yes.   https://www.edinburghgin.com/shop/gins/christmas-gin?p=shop/gins/christmas-gin

In Scotland drinking gin? Hopefully some good stuff like The Botanist.

weak sauce

This is why I advocate inter-disciplinary training. Cherry picking one data point and crafting it to a narrative is old hat. However if you stand back and take a look at the whole picture it is much more obvious...to some. Be that as it may..I have the feeling Marcus that you are half into your cup and just looking for a punching bag. So be it.

Peace

p.s. the chart was of a model that was projected in 2006 I believe with actual data well within the 2 sigma delta. these models have been refined and are even more highly accurate today but i could not be arsed to find the latest. the more concerning threat is not climate change anyway its rising co2 levels.

To be fair, I am drunk.  On Edinburgh Christmas Gin. Quite nice.

Did I mention both HairyMaclairy and Jojo69 are Jew shills?

Just because the globalists are using a crisis to expand their power it does not necessarily follow that the crisis does not exist.

This is sloppy logic Marcus, try harder.

Hairy, you are essentializing and verging on name calling, try harder.

I’m a socialist.  Happy to chat further.