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Quote from: ðºÞæ on December 18, 2018, 04:37:29 PM

Before you can put more money in safety deposit box you have to increase security. In Bitcoin lingo Hashrate is security.

This is really fundamental, some post around here outright scary.

Miners don't give a fuck about security. All they want is money.

If the price is too low to make money off they go until the difficulty changes enough to entice them back.

alevlaslo

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Quote from: El duderino_ on December 18, 2018, 03:51:46 PM

this is good news, the price will not fall further, everything has been sold, it is necessary to buy

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Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 18, 2018, 03:09:51 PM

Quote from: g-uid on December 18, 2018, 03:08:16 PM

BTC Difficulty adjustment in 2.9 hours. Watch the price after that, I suspect it is going to go down.

Difficulty follows price. Price does not follow difficulty.

Before you can put more money in safety deposit box you have to increase security. In Bitcoin lingo Hashrate is security.

This is really fundamental, some post around here outright scary.

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 18, 2018, 01:18:12 PM

Quote from: bitserve on December 18, 2018, 01:14:47 PM

I am thinking one of the differences during the next bull market is that there won't be no ICO craze as in this last one. That's surely a positive thing that will make everything much more sane. Not so good for ethereum though.

Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything useful or profitable already?

I wouldn't be so sure about that. It would probably at least be much more cut throat though, as most people should've realized that buzzword filled ~~toilet~~ whitepaper doesn't mean shit. That could also imply more absurd gains for those that do make the cut, with even steeper losses for full blown trash.

I am thinking something similar.

Even though the dynamics of the next pump will likely be different (assuming there is a next pump), yet there is no real reason to conclude that either ICOs, Alts or dumb money has been purged from the cryptospace. There would have to be some really dramatic changes before they are really killed off, and I am not even sure if a 2 year crypto winter would actually cause such killing off of such dumb money that surely likely to go along for any kind of pump, even if there is no there, there.

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Quote from: El duderino_ on December 18, 2018, 04:00:27 PM

Well, I am close to 100% sure that the drawn curve does NOT properly fit the data points and is drawn without much respect to them (just to illustrate a point).
A much better curve (where you can examine whatever deviation from the mean your heart disire):
https://www.moonmath.win/

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Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on December 18, 2018, 04:15:34 PM

Quote from: Biodom on December 18, 2018, 03:35:48 PM

Greenspan predicts stagflation in fiat world.

https://qconline.com/business/investment/personal-finance/alan-greenspan-investors-should-prepare-for-the-worst/article_b5b32707-3764-562b-95e9-e1602618e663.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2018/12/18/alan-greenspan-stock-market.cnn-business/video/playlists/business-markets-investing/

What would be the consequences for bitcoin?
Last time it happened in the 70ies, gold performed exceptionally well, stocks did not do anything for 12 years (with multiple sharp drawdowns and recoveries) and bonds cratered.
Hopefully, btc would replace gold here.

At around 2028-2030, interest rates would be very high and, hopefully, the new bull market in bonds would begin.
I intend to capture that yield then and there.

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Nice meme.

haha, just check the video.
I will remove the link to that nonsensical site, thanks.

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Quote from: El duderino_ on December 18, 2018, 03:52:30 PM

I don't get the point of those headlines. Technically higher population means higher amount of students thus increasing student debts. Without all the details about rates of repayment and where the money comes from those types of headlines are pretty pointless. I'd be more worried about the dollar printing press than increasing absolute debt (not that I know or care enough about the debt market to make any claims for or against it).

For reference. One billion students taking out a loan of $1000 would amount to total student debt of one trillion. And $1000 is an amount that nearly anyone could pay off with interest in their lifetime. No details, no information.

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Quote from: Biodom on December 18, 2018, 03:35:48 PM

Greenspan predicts stagflation in fiat world.

https://qconline.com/business/investment/personal-finance/alan-greenspan-investors-should-prepare-for-the-worst/article_b5b32707-3764-562b-95e9-e1602618e663.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2018/12/18/alan-greenspan-stock-market.cnn-business/video/playlists/business-markets-investing/

What would be the consequences for bitcoin?
Last time it happened in the 70ies, gold performed exceptionally well, stocks did not do anything for 12 years (with multiple sharp drawdowns and recoveries) and bonds cratered.
Hopefully, btc would replace gold here.

At around 2028-2030, interest rates would be very high and, hopefully, the new bull market in bonds would begin.
I intend to capture that yield then and there.

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Nice meme.

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Be a bank

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Quote from: El duderino_ on December 18, 2018, 02:58:01 PM

. And yefi didn’t particpate Roll Eyes

I was thwarted by my strategy of posting right at the end and my forgetfulness Tongue

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One interesting thing is that we rallied yesterday, despite (or because of?) the equities selloff. Equities are mostly flat today, as is BTC.

So far I remain unconvinced of any correlation, but it will be interesting to see if there's an inverse correlation if the stock market continues fall.

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on December 18, 2018, 08:57:33 AM

Quote from: PoolMinor on December 18, 2018, 08:56:28 AM

So Bitcoin rises by ~2% after falling ~84% and somehow everyone thinks that this bear market is over?

(0.02 * 19,666)= ~$400 + 3122= ~3500.

Quote from: PoolMinor on November 30, 2018, 07:14:21 PM

I also believe that the next intermediary top will be around 23-25 of December. Good chart.

It’s ok the bear market is over

How could the bear market be over? We just confirmed (when BTC decisively broke below $6k) that we are actually in a bear market. Before that time, we had merely confirmed that we were in the middle of a price correction.

So currently, it seems to get back above $6k, assuming that BTC prices rebound, the better case scenario is 3 months and the worse case scenario is in the 2 year arena. Most of us here would likely prefer going up sooner rather than later, and I suppose that some benefits regarding a longer and more drawn out recovery would be that the BTC price would be on more solid grounds for the next hopefully happening upwards price surge at some point after the halvening.

TLDR: I am not proclaiming to know anything more than anyone else, yet my point is that your proclamation that the bear market is "over" seems way too premature, especially given recent price happenings, including breaking below $6k without any significant rebound.

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BTC + Crossfit, living life.

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BTC + Crossfit, living life.

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BTC + Crossfit, living life.

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BTC + Crossfit, living life.

didn't know this .... so also 5 year celebration already

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: serveria.com on December 18, 2018, 03:45:16 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 18, 2018, 02:41:57 PM

Quote from: Phil_S on December 18, 2018, 05:42:15 AM

All bottoms are behind now, in the rear-view mirror.

Like this:

Yeah, kind of, except for in the first pic there are some seriously sexy ultra feminine bubble butts and in the second one an underage boy or a tranny? Grin

If boy/tranny is the case, then for sure, we would prefer the bottom to be in the rear view mirror. Amirite?

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Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 18, 2018, 03:42:09 PM

Flat and choppy for the next 8 months, mostly boring interspersed with moments of terror and despair.

And bulltraps, don't forget the bulltraps. They are needed to multiply the terror and despair of the subsequent dumps.

JayJuanGee

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Quote from: julian071 on December 18, 2018, 07:21:13 AM

Even tho I think we might go a little lower still, could not resist to buy some. It's a steal no matter what, compared to what's coming. And had some fiat to spare, so...

Did you save some fiat, just in case the BTC price goes down lower from here in the next few weeks?

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 18, 2018, 02:41:57 PM

Quote from: Phil_S on December 18, 2018, 05:42:15 AM

All bottoms are behind now, in the rear-view mirror.

Like this:

Yeah, kind of, except for in the first pic there are some seriously sexy ultra feminine bubble butts and in the second one an underage boy or a tranny? Grin

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