remind me of all things.....except that one
i did love the daily-weekly NEW ATH's all the time
bring it back, same time honey(MIC)badger don't give a fuck
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 12797. (Read 26711918 times)
November 02, 2018, 04:22:08 PM
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remind me of all things.....except that one
i did love the daily-weekly NEW ATH's all the time
bring it back, same time honey(MIC)badger don't give a fuck
remind me of all things.....except that one
i did love the daily-weekly NEW ATH's all the time
bring it back, same time honey(MIC)badger don't give a fuck
November 02, 2018, 04:20:52 PM
November 02, 2018, 04:20:11 PM
I actually said hi to our prime minister when bumping into him when hiking.
I was in the same city as president Clinton one time. There was tear gas and he was evacuated.
lol
Cheers micgoossens and everyone else.
I'm enjoying a localbrew, Heineken is brewed 10km from where I live =D
Currently smoking God’s green whilst watching some shit stand up comedian on TV!
November 02, 2018, 04:15:05 PM
I'm enjoying a localbrew, Heineken is brewed 10km from where I live =D
That's the final straw.
Ignored
November 02, 2018, 04:02:16 PM
I actually said hi to our prime minister when bumping into him when hiking.
I was in the same city as president Clinton one time. There was tear gas and he was evacuated.
lol
Cheers micgoossens and everyone else.
I'm enjoying a localbrew, Heineken is brewed 10km from where I live =D
November 02, 2018, 03:40:32 PM
I actually said hi to our prime minister when bumping into him when hiking.
I was in the same city as president Clinton one time. There was tear gas and he was evacuated.
November 02, 2018, 03:12:57 PM
I’m firmly in the ‘get away with paying as little tax as possible’ camp.
I have a really good accoutant who does my companies books (he is not aware I’m invested in bitcoin)
I have a really good accoutant who does my companies books (he is not aware I’m invested in bitcoin)
same camp,same team,same SHIT going on .......
November 02, 2018, 03:12:07 PM
friday evening NO DINNER stuff going on this evening BUT,
only (maybe its just me)
why so f***ing many screens and shit this place always feed me my portion of HOPIUM
for the alcoholic ones this evening cheers!!!
only (maybe its just me)
why so f***ing many screens and shit
this place always feed me my portion of HOPIUM for the alcoholic ones this evening cheers!!!
November 02, 2018, 03:08:45 PM
Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.
Submitting to organized armed thugs is patriotism... got it.
Waitaminute... that ain't patriotism, it's subservience.
You wanna be a patriot, how 'bout you send in a check for ten times what 'the law' says you owe. Actually, that ain't patriotism either. For it will not be going to your nation, but rather to your government. Which is not the same thing.
To be fair, he is living under a much more benign government than us.
It pains me to admit it, as I am fully aware that it runs against my core anarchist beliefs, but if I am really honest with myself much of my life is defined by the yearning for a jurisdiction to which I can peaceably submit.
I do not think such a jurisdiction currently exists. I am by temperament a mechanic and farmer, not an insurgent. I do feel that much of my life potential has been stolen from me by the political matrix into which I was born.
Good point. scale might play an impprtant role. My country is much smaller. I actually said hi to our prime minister when bumping into him when hiking. The smaller scale makes everything much more personal, and more easily manageable with less bureaucracy.
All greys though, still to much bureaucracy....
November 02, 2018, 03:00:57 PM
I’m firmly in the ‘get away with paying as little tax as possible’ camp.
I have a really good accoutant who does my companies books (he is not aware I’m invested in bitcoin)
I have a really good accoutant who does my companies books (he is not aware I’m invested in bitcoin)
November 02, 2018, 02:59:47 PM
Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.
Submitting to organized armed thugs is patriotism... got it.
Waitaminute... that ain't patriotism, it's subservience.
You wanna be a patriot, how 'bout you send in a check for ten times what 'the law' says you owe. Actually, that ain't patriotism either. For it will not be going to your nation, but rather to your government. Which is not the same thing.
To be fair, he is living under a much more benign government than us.
It pains me to admit it, as I am fully aware that it runs against my core anarchist beliefs, but if I am really honest with myself much of my life is defined by the yearning for a jurisdiction to which I can peaceably submit.
I do not think such a jurisdiction currently exists. I am by temperament a mechanic and farmer, not an insurgent. I do feel that much of my life potential has been stolen from me by the political matrix into which I was born.
November 02, 2018, 02:44:37 PM
Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.
Submitting to organized armed thugs is patriotism... got it.
Waitaminute... that ain't patriotism, it's subservience.
You wanna be a patriot, how 'bout you send in a check for ten times what 'the law' says you owe. Actually, that ain't patriotism either. For it will not be going to your nation, but rather to your government. Which is not the same thing.
It is the government that builds and maintains the stuff your nation needs to function. if they fail, select someone else.
Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely fine with people not wanting to 'subserve' to anything, I just don't like it when people do want to use hospitals, roads, the fire department etc etc and still don't want to pay taxes.
Your tax form is not a voting ballot. Those are two very different things.
You're correct that you get taxed every year, as is customary in most of the world.
You get taxed 1.2% not 1.5% over anything over 25k not 2.5k, minus debts.
Our economic system is not backwards, look up the numbers. Taxing stale money does not inhibit succes. Seems like taxing actual succes (profit in trading) is more akin to taxing succes.
I'd gladly give you a percentage of my wealth if you build the roads I drive my motorcycle on, build the school that my daughter goes to, and there is a system in place whereby I can check and judge your performance, together with my compatriates.
The tax rate on the top bracket used to be much higher, as in 85%. 'Wild' depends on your frame of reference. I think owning 10 houses and 20 cars is wild. 8 houses and 15 cars should be enough for any one person. Tax everything above that 100% I say.
In general the rate of taxation is kinda high on the income part here, kinda low on what most people here enjoy doing, trading (0%). Other countries just chose to tax trading to pay the schools and roads. You decide what's better.
November 02, 2018, 02:34:34 PM
what happened to that $700M?
https://tether.to/upcoming-usdt-redemption-october-24th-2018/thought they burned a bit more, more recently, can't find link
If you believe that a band of thugs extracting what they want from you at gunpoint under color of law is in any way legitimate, what the hell difference is it if they do it based upon income or based upon current net holdings? From an ethical standpoint, it is the exact same thing.
agreePaying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.
Submitting to organized armed thugs is patriotism... got it.
Waitaminute... that ain't patriotism, it's subservience.
You wanna be a patriot, how 'bout you send in a check for ten times what 'the law' says you owe. Actually, that ain't patriotism either. For it will not be going to your nation, but rather to your government. Which is not the same thing.
you on a roll
November 02, 2018, 02:33:17 PM
Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.
Submitting to organized armed thugs is patriotism... got it.
Waitaminute... that ain't patriotism, it's subservience.
You wanna be a patriot, how 'bout you send in a check for ten times what 'the law' says you owe. Actually, that ain't patriotism either. For it will not be going to your nation, but rather to your government. Which is not the same thing.
November 02, 2018, 02:29:50 PM
Can someone make Arthur Hayes shut up ?
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-bitmex-ceo-doubles-down-on-bear-call-says-btc-could-fall-to-2000/
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-bitmex-ceo-doubles-down-on-bear-call-says-btc-could-fall-to-2000/
Quote
CCN reported earlier this week that Hayes, a former Citigroup trader, is now predicting that the bitcoin downtrend could last another 18 months, mirroring the “nuclear bear market” the crypto industry experienced in 2014 and 2015. Writing in Friday’s edition of the BitMEX Crypto Trader Digest, Hayes doubled down on that portentous outlook.
Meh. He's just talking his book. He makes money on the churn. Price doesn't matter to him - volatility does.
November 02, 2018, 02:28:25 PM
Yeah but...
They show a balance of about $1.8B, while Tether market cap (according to CMC) is about $2.5B.
For some reason, this does nothing to assuage my skepticism.
cmc vol is 2.5, cap is 1.7
dunce hat for u
but yeah, letter schmetter
I had stale data. Corrected upthread.
Nevertheless... what happened to that $700M?
November 02, 2018, 02:24:04 PM
Interesting, I think when I finally start cashing large portions of my HODLING’s I’m going to have to try & emigrate. I am not willing to pay 45% tax on what I sell.
I hope when that moment come, when btc is worth enough
November 02, 2018, 02:23:13 PM
I usually roll my eyes when I hear "Taxation is theft", but this?
Them wanting to tax the cash in my wallet sounds crazy to me...
Yet you guys are talking about it like it's most normal and reasonable thing.
Mind-boggling.
Yeah I think we all just see the writing on the wall, you're not getting away from the Government taking their share especially if it has value and we all agree Bitcoins going to long term go up. I mean you can buy things directly for btc but I think vendors include sales tax in most of it. (Newegg for example)Them wanting to tax the cash in my wallet sounds crazy to me...
Yet you guys are talking about it like it's most normal and reasonable thing.
Mind-boggling.
But the tax on just your holdings fuck that including cash, no thanks. Is that some socialism bullshit that's favored there?
Paying your taxes is not socialism, it's patriotism.
Anyway I much prefer the way the taxes work in NL, no taxes whatsoever on trading including 'cashing out' (should really be called cashing in btw), just a very reasonable taxation on holdings, excluding the first 25k and minus debts. Most of the world is much worse off having all these taxable events like trading. They must all be socialist countries then I guess.
Don't worry give us 1.5% of all of your liquid money every year it's patriotism.
I'm assuming you have plenty of other taxes as well?
You're correct that you get taxed every year, as is customary in most of the world.
You get taxed 1.2% not 1.5% over anything over 25k not 2.5k, minus debts.
Our economic system is not backwards, look up the numbers. Taxing stale money does not inhibit success. Seems like taxing actual success (profit in trading) is more akin to taxing success.
I'd gladly give you a percentage of my wealth if you build the roads I drive my motorcycle on, build the school that my daughter goes to, and there is a system in place whereby I can check and judge your performance, together with my compatriots.
November 02, 2018, 02:22:35 PM
Interesting, I think when I finally start cashing large portions of my HODLING’s I’m going to have to try & emigrate. I am not willing to pay 45% tax on what I sell.
If you're 'merkin, emigrating does nothing to solve the tax problem. They's extract it from you no matter where you be.
Edit: in the US if you're in the top tax bracket you pay 20% on the gains. Fuck Europe and UK taxes the shit out of you.
November 02, 2018, 02:20:19 PM
I usually roll my eyes when I hear "Taxation is theft", but this?
Them wanting to tax the cash in my wallet sounds crazy to me...
Yet you guys are talking about it like it's most normal and reasonable thing.
Mind-boggling.
Them wanting to tax the cash in my wallet sounds crazy to me...
Yet you guys are talking about it like it's most normal and reasonable thing.
Mind-boggling.
yeah....
If you believe that a band of thugs extracting what they want from you at gunpoint under color of law is in any way legitimate, what the hell difference is it if they do it based upon income or based upon current net holdings? From an ethical standpoint, it is the exact same thing.
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