Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 14737.

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 04, 2018, 05:22:58 AM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 04, 2018, 05:08:52 AM

https://weeklyglobalresearch.wordpress.com/2018/02/04/what-problems-can-the-lightning-network-solve/
most of this is fair criticism

The criticism seems to boil down to (1) it’s not ready yet and (2) we don’t know if it will be enough.

The answer to (1) is “yes, duh” and the answer to (2) is “yes but it’s better than anyone else”.

Add to this the fact that Bitcoin has scaling problems because it has scale.

On that note I gave up trying to download the Monero blockchain after a week, and downloading the Eth blockchain is a nightmare. I think a lot of these people bitching about scaling have never run a full node.

Many of the lightning network "fair criticisms" come off as a bunch of silly-ass premature whiners, making up a bunch of speculated bullshit.

d_eddie

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Quote from: julian071 on February 04, 2018, 05:30:28 AM

I hope (and believe) we will see the last dip today, before going up again for an extended period. The bottom, as they say. I set my orders accordingly.

Same here. My last hopelessy-low-will-never-get-filled buy order got almost half filled. Undecided if I should place another just 50$ lower. Hmmm... maybe not until this one gets cleared.

On a related note, please keep posting, everyone!
The more we post (especially memes with TITS!), the better we'll be off when we're back to WOPC parity later this year.

LFC_Bitcoin

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#1 VIP Crypto Casino

I wonder how our good old friend Stolfi is getting on?

julian071

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I hope (and believe) we will see the last dip today, before going up again for an extended period. The bottom, as they say. I set my orders accordingly.

somac.

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Never selling

Quote from: d_eddie on February 04, 2018, 05:07:05 AM

Quote from: somac. on February 04, 2018, 04:58:43 AM

Quote from: d_eddie on February 04, 2018, 04:51:25 AM

As noted by another poster, our guy Masterluc got his account on TradingView disabled.

(yesterday at 12:37 pm)

Quote from: Masterluc

TradingView busted me whether it's the account, or the ideas. I do not know what I broke there. Well, fck them.

Where is that quote from Masterluc taken from?

cause his account on bitcointalk was hacked the other day

If's from VKontakte, his main outlet recently.
https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

Cool, thanks.

d_eddie

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Quote from: HairyMaclairy on February 04, 2018, 05:22:58 AM

I think a lot of these people bitching about scaling have never run a full node.

Surely, you mean a "full-validating, non-mining node"? Asks our wordsmith colleague jbreher. Grin

HairyMaclairy

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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 04, 2018, 05:08:52 AM

https://weeklyglobalresearch.wordpress.com/2018/02/04/what-problems-can-the-lightning-network-solve/
most of this is fair criticism

The criticism seems to boil down to (1) it’s not ready yet and (2) we don’t know if it will be enough.

The answer to (1) is “yes, duh” and the answer to (2) is “yes but it’s better than anyone else”.

Add to this the fact that Bitcoin has scaling problems because it has scale.

On that note I gave up trying to download the Monero blockchain after a week, and downloading the Eth blockchain is a nightmare. I think a lot of these people bitching about scaling have never run a full node.

d_eddie

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Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 04, 2018, 05:08:52 AM

https://weeklyglobalresearch.wordpress.com/2018/02/04/what-problems-can-the-lightning-network-solve/
most of this is fair criticism

Well, most is, but some is a little off. As an example, I agree adoption is the main point, but I haven't heard about bugs biting and making developers lose testnet funds recently. Also, the route-finding problem is exaggerated. It is impossible to guarantee an optimal (shortest) route is found, but quite feasible to find just any route. If channels live long enough, a store-and-forward policy could take care of that. Also, opening and closing channels can become much cheaper with some new proposed pooling/batching protocols. You just open many channels at once and share the fees. Things will only get better with Schnorr signatures.

Do you know/can you find out the guy's track record? It sounds a bit like undercover shilling.

Last of the V8s

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@steve_hanke https://twitter.com/steve_hanke/status/959530873363329026

In 2013, I told the New York Times that “to say digital money is highly speculative would be the understatement of the century”; 5 years later, my statement turns into a self fulfilling prophecy, with #Bitcoin dropping by 60% in less than a month

@steve_hanke
Applied Economist @JohnsHopkins | Sr. Fellow & Director #TroubledCurrencies Project @CatoInstitute | @Forbes | FX & Commodities Trader | Reagan White House Alum

-great that all these fiat economists are coming out with easily-rebuttable butthurt.
-their scams will be very obvious to the public
-and to politicos

Last of the V8s

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Be a bank

https://weeklyglobalresearch.wordpress.com/2018/02/04/what-problems-can-the-lightning-network-solve/
most of this is fair criticism

d_eddie

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Quote from: somac. on February 04, 2018, 04:58:43 AM

Quote from: d_eddie on February 04, 2018, 04:51:25 AM

As noted by another poster, our guy Masterluc got his account on TradingView disabled.

(yesterday at 12:37 pm)

Quote from: Masterluc

TradingView busted me whether it's the account, or the ideas. I do not know what I broke there. Well, fck them.

Where is that quote from Masterluc taken from?

cause his account on bitcointalk was hacked the other day

If's from VKontakte, his main outlet recently.
https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

somac.

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Never selling

Quote from: d_eddie on February 04, 2018, 04:51:25 AM

As noted by another poster, our guy Masterluc got his account on TradingView disabled.

(yesterday at 12:37 pm)

Quote from: Masterluc

TradingView busted me whether it's the account, or the ideas. I do not know what I broke there. Well, fck them.

Where is that quote from Masterluc taken from?

cause his account on bitcointalk was hacked the other day

d_eddie

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As noted by another poster, our guy Masterluc got his account on TradingView disabled.

(yesterday at 12:37 pm)

Quote from: Masterluc

TradingView busted me whether it's the account, or the ideas. I do not know what I broke there. Well, fck them.

d_eddie

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 03, 2018, 09:51:37 PM

Quote from: d_eddie on February 03, 2018, 06:14:59 AM

My previous low-too-low limit buy got filled, but in the meantime I slipped one more in. I won't be satisfied the rise has begun until I have at least one low buy order left unfilled! Grin

hahahahahahaha...

I have seen several of your posts on this topic, and it seems that you just keep adding another one as soon as the lowest as fuck one gets filled, and then you have a new lowest as fuck buy order... self-fulfilling prophecy that is going to be true no matter what, right?..

It's a bilt like your 'buy on the way down' gospel, seasoned with a bit of gambler's spice (look for the bottom just for sports).

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unless we go to zero, then you will have to set them in the negative territory (just for the record, I don't think we are going to zero, and especially not to the negative price territory.. Is that too bullish of me?).

Negative territory... you get paid to get bitcoin. Definitely not too bullish. Not happening anyway, I tend to agree Tongue

somac.

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Never selling

Standard weekend dump. Just piss off already dumpers. Damn thing is going to 100k, just buy.

MERlT

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Quote from: RoomBot on February 04, 2018, 02:49:39 AM

Quote from: ChinkyEyes on February 03, 2018, 11:11:07 AM

Quote from: Wolf Rainer on February 03, 2018, 05:57:51 AM

Quote from: MERlT on February 03, 2018, 02:45:19 AM

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/02/investing/stock-market-today-dow/

The real news, Wall Street 1929 crash incoming, HODL your Bitcoin and get some popcorn Grin

You think this is just the beginning of a down spiral?

*puts tinfoil hat on*

What if the wall street boys knew this was coming and decided to get some cheap bitcoins before the crash.
It would make sense that Bitcoin goes to the moon when Wall Street crashes, we have seen it many times before, in times of turmoil people tend to go towards Bitcoin. In 2017, BTC was in high demand in Zimbabwe, Venezuela and South Korea. All of them had some form of financial tensions.

Well, in that case, USA should be going nutz over BTC

As well as the rest of North America
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa

BTC

Patience young Padawan Wink

d_eddie

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Quote from: AZwarel on February 03, 2018, 09:57:11 PM

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences:
"The Prize in Economics is not one of the original Nobel Prizes created by Alfred Nobel's will."
"The prize was established in 1968 by a donation from Sweden's central bank"

'nuff said Grin

It doesn't really imply all Nobel prizes for Economics are bunk. Not all prizes have been awarded to politically skewed theories of strict neo-Keynesian observance. As a good example, I'm thinking of K. Arrow's impossibility theorem (1972 prize).

d_eddie

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Quote from: jojo69 on February 03, 2018, 07:28:03 PM

It's all about normalized merit TERA.

I just mentally subtract a person's starting point.

I do the same, it's quite obvious isn't it?

rafanadal

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Quote from: jojo69 on February 04, 2018, 04:06:46 AM

here we go again

explorer

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Quote from: TERA2 on February 04, 2018, 03:17:54 AM

You know what's weird is when I came here 5 years ago we were doing the same thing and having the exact same conversations, except the price was 200 times lower. Bitcoin wasn't even known about - it was a nothing. Now magically it has manifested itself into a thing while we all just stayed here and did nothing and shot the shit. But we fully expected this and we all knew almost 100% that the next rally was coming, and then the next, and then the next. It's like we're a bunch of visionary entitled cunts.

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