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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 15286. (Read 26716595 times)

legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
Is LN blockchain admission of failure ? Ain't we better off using ripple at this point ?

Are you fucking retarded or something ?

LN is an evolutionary step for Bitcoin.

When you check your email, would you rather telnet/ssh directly to the mail server and issue manual commands, or would you prefer to use a mail client that does all the heavy lifting for you ?
A much pithier explanation than mine. Smiley
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Deb Rah Von Doom
$5500 is actually incredibly generous. I dont know why you doubt it at all.

sr. member
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I've also sent some fiat to Kraken for some BTC shopping, and was thinking to buy as soon as the funds become available to spend. But I've been reading about expected dips to $10k or even $8k and lower... What to do? Will wait for a while and then make my move.

The kraken announcement thread gave me the impression that it's extremely difficult to log in, and that buying and selling is a bigger cluster fuck. Have you not experienced any problems there lately?
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
ain't LN blockchain admission of failure Huh Ain't we better off using ripple at this point ?
No and no.  

Bitcoin is bitcoin.  Censorship resistant, and decentralized.  The lightning network is technology being built on top of the protocol.  The people building it, as well as many of us, see it as offering lots of valuable features.

It's sort of like HTML...  HTML is an ever changing markup language used ON TOP of the HTTP specification.  HTML changes frequently, adding features for things like video transmission etc.  HTTP?  Doesn't change that often.  It's job is to be the rock solid base on which HTML does it's magic.

The bitcoin protocol is similar.  A slow changing protocol, but in THIS case managed in part by the consensus of the users as well as devs miners etc.  I think Wladimir van der Laan takes the right course when he is slow to make big changes to the underlying protocol.

LN is like HTML.  The market is developing it to make the protocol useful for the masses.  With development like this bitcoin comes out of the shadows and useful features are made available for everyday users.  For example: Currently "being your own bank" entails complex OPSEC that even the experienced computer users can have trouble with and possibly fail.  Whether we like it or not we NEED 3rd party solutions to help both grandma and banks handle the geeky aspects of using crypto.  Without these developments we will never see mainstream use.

If bitcoin is to continue evolving into the premier form of wealth storage, unit of account, and means of exchange we MUST -- **MUST** see millions of transactions a second.

LN is currently the first and best step towards enabling that future.

So no.  No.  Bitcoin has not failed.  In fact it has barely begun succeeding.  I can see you have basically no idea what's coming.  So the show will be pretty fun for you to watch.  Hold onto your ass.

And hodl on to your BTC.  Wink
legendary
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About the chart: I want to see this baby at 100.000 next year.
$100 is too low. I'm not THAT bearish. I think most likely itll just briefly bottom at $5500

Lol. He meant $100k.

And no you won't see $5500 ever again.
legendary
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yes
@Toxic2040, beautiful graph you posted. We are ready for what’s coming.
legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
You can get a free upgrade to Win10 until 12/31 www.microsoft.com/accessibility/windows10upgrade

I had the impression that Jimbo actually wants his new laptop to have Windows 7! And so right he is...

I'm on Windows 7 and extremely satisfied. I'm going nowhere near a version number > 7 unless I absolutely have to.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
Because of that little conversation I sold my 15125 buy at 14800 or so... 3 bucks lost. Here's hoping I catch the bigger dip... But seeing as we're back at 15100... Getting nervous.

Pretty much what the other posters have said. Just HoDL! If you make a move, just stick to it and don't panic. Statistically you will end up losing if you try to outrun the market by acting spasmodically. If it dips more, just buy more (if you have more fiat to spend).

I've also sent some fiat to Kraken for some BTC shopping, and was thinking to buy as soon as the funds become available to spend. But I've been reading about expected dips to $10k or even $8k and lower... What to do? Will wait for a while and then make my move.
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Deb Rah Von Doom
About the chart: I want to see this baby at 100.000 next year.
$100 is too low. I'm not THAT bearish. I think most likely itll just briefly bottom at $5500
legendary
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we lost the bit we gained last night and we're right back where we were yesterday morning... currently $15247USD/$19307CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins are worth $18448USD/$23357CAD each (Coinmarketcap).

I suppose sideways is better than going down but this morning's dip feels contrived and artificial.

Obviously it will be temporary but it's annoying to me because I would have sold a very small amount of coin last night to take advantage of a boxing week special to buy a Win7 laptop for a friend. Unfortunately my local 24/7 ATM wasn't buying coins and all the other nearby ATMs were closed for the holiday.

Now I'll have to wait a day or two until I get some more cash revenues or Bitcoin prices rise sufficiently. There's no way I'm selling any coins at this price.

Too bad, she's coming into town tomorrow night and I wanted to have it set up to surprise her. I also wanted to get one for myself as a "throwaway" for international travel that I won't have to worry about falling into the wrong hands. I can save $600 by buying them this week.

Notice how they're trying to paint a head-and-shoulders pattern on the tape, in a low volume/participation environment.

Classic Bitcoin.  Grin

No freaking kidding. I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice.  Roll Eyes

You can get a free upgrade to Win10 until 12/31 www.microsoft.com/accessibility/windows10upgrade

About the chart: I want to see this baby at 100.000 next year.
legendary
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Is LN blockchain admission of failure ? Ain't we better off using ripple at this point ?
sr. member
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Why is anyone suprised? I made the announcement that there would be a top at 16,000. Therefore it should be completely expected and there should be no discussion here. Just a bunch of blank pages.

because we should be at 25k, new ath everyday. Well, in a permabull mind  Smiley

Range bound for a few weeks sounds good to me.
legendary
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Why is anyone suprised? I made the announcement that there would be a top at 16,000. Therefore it should be completely expected and there should be no discussion here. Just a bunch of blank pages.

because we should be at 25k, new ath everyday. Well, in a permabull mind  Smiley
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Deb Rah Von Doom
Why is anyone suprised? I made the announcement that there would be a top at 16,000. Therefore it should be completely expected and there should be no discussion here. Just a bunch of blank pages.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot

Dude.

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but just HODL, man.


yeah

HODL or resign yourself to crying on your paltry pile of fiat winnings as BTC once again skyrockets out of reach.


and do NOT listen to me, I daytard with a tiny amount just to keep the blood up, and lose pretty consistently
legendary
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15125. Bought thy Fucking dip! Cheesy

Unfortunately I believe we might retest $13-14k.

dammit Torque...
I got filled overnight and was feeling all smart and stuff



I'm sure you will find a way to make her smile Jimbo

I saw got filled and make her smile and my dyslexia kicked in and I was off on a totally different tangent...

OT

I have to say the market is always able to surprise me. I am seeing some nice consolidation at 15k support and volume is rising but I fear if we dont blow upwards thru 17k then we are sideways and down for a retest of 10k.  Pretty standard stuff...what I think is new and unusual is all the movement seems...cushioned...I dont know how else to describe it. Its does not have the same violence I have come to expect from btc.  More exchanges..less float..probably dozens of reasons...thats my take.  Just remember where we are...




Happy Cryptomas all.
legendary
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Because of that little conversation I sold my 15125 buy at 14800 or so...

Dude.

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but just HODL, man.

Getting sad reading stories of your missteps with BTC Sad

+1, totally agree.

That's why no one should ever day trade this market. Too easy to be wrong and lose money.

Just buy and hodl. If it dips, don't sell just buy more.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
Because of that little conversation I sold my 15125 buy at 14800 or so... 3 bucks lost. Here's hoping I catch the bigger dip... But seeing as we're back at 15100... Getting nervous.

No wonder you're skint. Quit fucking around and stay put.
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