Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 15789. (Read 26630738 times)
November 23, 2017, 03:49:02 PM
I wonder what will happen in the next 24hs
November 23, 2017, 03:48:07 PM
If Bitcoin Diamond has more proof of work than Bcash, then Bitcoin Diamond will become the real Bcash.
There's no such thing as "more proof of work" unless you claim there's some intrinsic characteristic that makes SHA256 the only valid hash function that exists, which there is clearly not and it's just a meaningless, arbitrary talking point. Which is much higher on the list of problems than complaints from other people such as "the only valid proof of work would require 51% of energy in the entire known universe". Forget about total energy/work usage, there is not even a common consensus point in which to exert that energy on, especially when you consider SHA256 quantum vulnerability to things like Shors/Grovers. Just another reason to flop onto the stack as to why bitcoin and all other cryptocurrency are just Rube Goldberg machines that don't actually do what they claim.
Bitcoin Diamond is not an offshoot of Bcash. It represent’s Jihan’s original vision with the original functionality restored. Bitcoin Diamond is an upgrade of Bcash. Bitcoin Diamond has better privacy protection than Bcash, including encryption of the transfer amout and balance which protects user’s privacy. Bitcoin Diamond also has faster transaction confirmations than Bitcoin Cash. Who wants to wait 10 minutes (or 3 hours depending on oscillations) when Bitcoin Diamond confirms every 2 minutes. Bitcoin Diamond is a superior technology that will flippen Bcash.
Bitcoin Diamond is a faster, superior Bcash. Upgrade today and start spending now.
November 23, 2017, 03:31:02 PM
154Mill Tether (margin market) on Bitfinex...prepare 
Although I have not lost a cent due to the Bitfinex staff manipulating the price of bitcoin up or down (such as during the halving when they tried to naked short their own exchange and it blew up in their face so they stole everyone's money and claimed they were hacked), I really want to see those guys go to jail for creating a 1:1 replica of MtGox right after MtGox itself. And yes, when Finex inevitably blows up, it will probably blow up the rest of the bitcoin market once everything comes to light with them being the main controller of price all the way from $200 to $8000 MtGox-style.
Do people really believe marginal buyers exist for bitcoin at $8000 in a pure vertical, hyperbolic move? Hell no. Well, maybe like 2 guys on the entire planet or a few small fish lunatics, but those guys aren't the ones putting up walls that control the price. Moves like this are only done in two ways, either entirely financial fraud, or one guy who owns like 90% of the market and hence has an illiquid asset, puts his illiquid asset on margin to leverage....a higher priced illiquid asset (which is how they raised the value of Ethereum).
November 23, 2017, 03:24:50 PM
154Mill Tether (margin market) on Bitfinex...prepare
November 23, 2017, 03:13:22 PM
If Bitcoin Diamond has more proof of work than Bcash, then Bitcoin Diamond will become the real Bcash.
There's no such thing as "more proof of work" unless you claim there's some intrinsic characteristic that makes SHA256 the only valid hash function that exists, which there is clearly not and it's just a meaningless, arbitrary talking point. Which is much higher on the list of problems than complaints from other people such as "the only valid proof of work would require 51% of energy in the entire known universe". Forget about total energy/work usage, there is not even a common consensus point in which to exert that energy on, especially when you consider SHA256 quantum vulnerability to things like Shors/Grovers. Just another reason to flop onto the stack as to why bitcoin and all other cryptocurrency are just Rube Goldberg machines that don't actually do what they claim.
November 23, 2017, 02:58:42 PM
Here comes your unwanted Radix shill again...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYs4kPcmZqmgZ9CREb97hvA
Please feel free to hit the ignore button. Else watch and learn.
Just don't quote JJG, please.
I have to throw up every time somebody does, especially when that donkey replies to my posts. And of course else I would not see those replies - as I have identified morons on ignore.
Cheers
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYs4kPcmZqmgZ9CREb97hvA
Please feel free to hit the ignore button. Else watch and learn.
Just don't quote JJG, please.
I have to throw up every time somebody does, especially when that donkey replies to my posts. And of course else I would not see those replies - as I have identified morons on ignore.
Cheers
November 23, 2017, 02:57:01 PM
If Bitcoin Diamond has more proof of work than Bcash, then Bitcoin Diamond will become the real Bcash.
weee
November 23, 2017, 02:50:45 PM
Check out the tweets by people now shilling BCash extolling the virtues of Bitcoin Cash, their accounts never mentioned crypto currencies before August. They are fake/paid.
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And the few who are interested are either idealogical big blockers, or just like Alt coins, people who missed out on the early entry to Bitcoin are desperately looking for a big win.
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And the few who are interested are either idealogical big blockers, or just like Alt coins, people who missed out on the early entry to Bitcoin are desperately looking for a big win.
Present company excepted, I suppose?
Oh, well it is true that I almost never tweet.
OTOH, how is it that you view 'idealogical big blockers' as a purjorative? It is a label I wear proudly.
November 23, 2017, 02:47:55 PM
So, Bitcoiners, wait or sell your Gold, and what to buy?
I've sold about half my Bitcoin Gold so far. Traded it into Bitcoin Segwit. About half of the resultant Bitcoin Segwit, I have exchanged for Bitcoin Cash. The remainder is sitting on open Bitcoin Cash buy orders, waiting for the price to be hit. Though it looks like my bids are too low. May have to cancel and reset.
This sentence kind of demonstrates why bitcoin is complete bullshit. An experienced user that should be difficult to fish/trick, but through economic incentives, was persuaded to adopt the idea that there can be many different bitcoins all at the same time or that it can just randomly change from one thing to another. Real "money" can't morph or change from one thing to another because then it would not be fungible, hence bitcoin isn't and never was "money" in the first place.
As I said in the past, due to having limited scalability and thus high fees (aka usury), bitcoin also has a reverse Schelling point where people are incentivized not to use it and create or use a different chain until there's 5 billion of them. Gold and silver do not have any of these terminal problems and someone like Roger Ver or whoever can't just say "hey guys, gold is no longer gold, I just invented the new periodic element VerGold which has now replaced gold", while some other guy is like "no no, MaxwellGold is the real gold!". Nobody can tamper with the traits of real money. Bitcoin is not tamper resistant, there's tampering everywhere.
November 23, 2017, 02:45:46 PM
Personally I don't understand why many of these altcoins are valued way more than Litecoin.
Some alts offer unique attributes that may prove to be of some value. Litecoin -- in my opinion -- is merely a crappy version of Bitcoin. A different algo and a quarter-time do not differentiate it enough to be judged as anything but.
November 23, 2017, 02:43:49 PM
This is going to be the Bitcoin chart. You heard it from me first.
Your game to find out what that is.
I might give a small tip
Berkshire hathaway?
Absolutely Yes
November 23, 2017, 02:37:47 PM
yep... thanks for calling out the game that fast.
It's the historical chart since the inception.
send me your btc addy privately and I'll tip
Well done!
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BRK-A/
Go BTC go
It's the historical chart since the inception.
send me your btc addy privately and I'll tip
Well done!
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BRK-A/
Go BTC go
Haha sorry had to do it. Thanks!
Edit: and I agree thats where we're headed.... only in a fraction of the timeframe
November 23, 2017, 02:35:53 PM
yep... thanks for calling out the game that fast.
It's the historical chart since the inception.
send me your btc addy privately and I'll tip
Well done!
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BRK-A/
Go BTC go
It's the historical chart since the inception.
send me your btc addy privately and I'll tip
Well done!
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BRK-A/
Go BTC go
That was pretty quick. I wouldn’t have gotten it. Would be interesting to compare Bitcoin to Tesla.
November 23, 2017, 02:30:38 PM
yep... thanks for calling out the game that fast.
It's the historical chart since the inception.
send me your btc addy privately and I'll tip
Well done!
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BRK-A/
Go BTC go
It's the historical chart since the inception.
send me your btc addy privately and I'll tip
Well done!
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BRK-A/
Go BTC go
November 23, 2017, 02:28:16 PM
So, Bitcoiners, wait or sell your Gold, and what to buy?
I've sold about half my Bitcoin Gold so far. Traded it into Bitcoin Segwit. About half of the resultant Bitcoin Segwit, I have exchanged for Bitcoin Cash. The remainder of that Bitcoin Segwit is sitting on open Bitcoin Cash buy orders, waiting for the price to be hit. Though it looks like my bids are too low. May have to cancel and reset.
November 23, 2017, 02:26:29 PM
This is going to be the Bitcoin chart. You heard it from me first.
Your game to find out what that is.
I might give a small tip
Berkshire hathaway?
November 23, 2017, 02:25:33 PM
This is going to be the Bitcoin chart. You heard it from me first.
Your game to find out what that is.
I might give a small tip
November 23, 2017, 02:19:20 PM
November 23, 2017, 02:11:45 PM
Sometimes I wonder if altcoin proponents ever have this honest conversation with themselves:
"I bought into this great altcoin called [X]. It has these great, neato features that Bitcoin doesn't have. I've held this altcoin for years and years. Of course, I've never really spent them on anything, and likely won't. So I really can't attest that these great, neato features really have any real value to myself, or anyone else for that matter. And now that I really think about it ...it hasn't really changed my life in any significant way to hold/use this altcoin versus just using Bitcoin. But I'm gonna keep holding it anyway because....umm...because .....neato features! Hypothetical use cases [that never apply to me] matter!!"
Lol
"I bought into this great altcoin called [X]. It has these great, neato features that Bitcoin doesn't have. I've held this altcoin for years and years. Of course, I've never really spent them on anything, and likely won't. So I really can't attest that these great, neato features really have any real value to myself, or anyone else for that matter. And now that I really think about it ...it hasn't really changed my life in any significant way to hold/use this altcoin versus just using Bitcoin. But I'm gonna keep holding it anyway because....umm...because .....neato features! Hypothetical use cases [that never apply to me] matter!!"
Lol
Hi Torque. Whilst I agree with many of your posts and enjoy reading them, I can honestly say that ‘honest conversation’ when it comes to Monero. got into Monero in 2014 and have held it ever since. I love it as a store of value and I believe in its long term potential. I like the idea of a Swiss bank account in my pocket and whilst I love Bitcoin too.... I hate revealing the contents of my wallet when I pay someone.
You are not alone on this thread - privacy is an issue, XMR does look like the best solution IMHO.
End of off topic
November 23, 2017, 02:06:28 PM
If Bitcoin Diamond has more proof of work than Bcash, then Bitcoin Diamond will become the real Bcash.
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