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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16459. (Read 26710408 times)

legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Just as someone would have to be a retard to buy right now, the risk by far outweighs the profit potential

So, people buying bitcoins on every dip during last 8 years are retards... Are you retarded?


he must be... oooh it was a rhetorical question
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
It is just time for a deeper correction, nothing more.

I beg to differ. It had already corrected. I think today's dip can be directly attributed to news of China announcing a clampdown on exchanges.

This is a similar situation to last January when the natural correction after breaking $1k was immediately followed by The PBoC announcing an investigation of the exchanges, causing a panic. After a short recovery, the PBoc started visiting the exchanges and then froze btc withdrawals causing another panic.

This time the natural correction after passing $5k was immediately followed by the PBoC outlawing ICOs, causing a panic. After a short recovery, the news of yet another Chinese action against the exchanges caused another panic.

We all know what happened to the price after January's panic subsided. Didn't we learn that China's importance in Bitcoin was over-rated?

This too will pass.

so you think no bigger dive for this time ?? just bought few coins like 1 hour before the dip  Embarrassed

Sell everything micgoosens!!!!!!!!       Shocked Shocked Shocked

no my friend THAN the whole market will colapse  Roll Eyes
hero member
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Still a manic miner
Hi,

I am an absolute newby to this forum, this is my first post. On the other hand, I have been trading financial assets for quite some time.  

I expected today's BTC dip, whatever the supposed reason for it would come out to be (i.e. fake news from China) on the basis  of :

1. a simple analysis of trading volumes analyzed on various time frames

2. the application of Fibonacci retracement levels to the previous leg up

3. the application of Eliot's wave count to the previous leg up (impulse wave) and to the current leg down (correction wave)


Technical analysis is not science  and its various tools are not always churning out foolproof answers.  Some tools work better ( = more often and on more type of financial assets) than others, but even those can fail ( = give false signals).   In my experience,  Eliot and Fibonacci have the best predictive power because they are not based on averages of past datas but on eternal or, at least, recurrent human behavioural patterns.

This said,  I put out my 5 cents of wisdom to say that the market will find its way to correct lower  before it resumes its way up.  I have set a number of buying orders at decreasing price levels between 4000 and 3000 USD  so, to put my mouth where my money is, this is what I can recommend to others as well.

Good trades everybody !


Sure your post sounds reasonable newbie; however, you need to account for s-curve adoption, metcalfe networking principles and that bitcoin is an immature technology that is also going through fundamental extreme attacks and even weirdness in the cryptospace on a broader level with a variety of random and extreme performances of ICOs and alt coins, and that is where the fucktard over reliance on technical analysis frequently screws up with their assertions about supposed inevitable needs for correction in a kind of false equivalency about bitcoin being a supposed mature market.

Sure you could be correct this time (a stopped clock is correct twice a day), but please present your technical analysis with a bit more grains of salt and accounting for both the immature price finding aspect of bitcoin and the s-curve analysis which are important factors to not leave out when you are arriving at your supposed "reasonable" technical analysis conclusions and advices.

JayJuanGee, excellent write up! 100% agreed..I couldnt find better words to express my thoughts
legendary
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Terminated.
Just as someone would have to be a retard to buy right now, the risk by far outweighs the profit potential
So, people buying bitcoins on every dip during last 8 years are retards... Are you retarded?
You need not ask questions to which the obvious answer is yes.
legendary
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Just as someone would have to be a retard to buy right now, the risk by far outweighs the profit potential

So, people buying bitcoins on every dip during last 8 years are retards... Are you retarded?
member
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Coindesk points out Caixin's source predicted the ICO ban two days in advance: https://www.coindesk.com/report-casts-doubt-future-chinas-bitcoin-exchanges/

Now Bitcoin...
legendary
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AGAIN only FOOOLS would sell now

what kind of idiot is sitting now behind his pc pushing the buttons to sell BTC  Huh

Hired goons?
legendary
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Interesting, the volume ... decrease.
More waves for october/november ... or january ?

legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
It is just time for a deeper correction, nothing more.

I beg to differ. It had already corrected. I think today's dip can be directly attributed to news of China announcing a clampdown on exchanges.

This is a similar situation to last January when the natural correction after breaking $1k was immediately followed by The PBoC announcing an investigation of the exchanges, causing a panic. After a short recovery, the PBoc started visiting the exchanges and then froze btc withdrawals causing another panic.

This time the natural correction after passing $5k was immediately followed by the PBoC outlawing ICOs, causing a panic. After a short recovery, the news of yet another Chinese action against the exchanges caused another panic.

We all know what happened to the price after January's panic subsided. Didn't we learn that China's importance in Bitcoin was over-rated?

This too will pass.

so you think no bigger dive for this time ?? just bought few coins like 1 hour before the dip  Embarrassed

Sell everything micgoosens!!!!!!!!       Shocked Shocked Shocked
sr. member
Activity: 266
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AGAIN only FOOOLS would sell now

what kind of idiot is sitting now behind his pc pushing the buttons to sell BTC  Huh

Just as someone would have to be a retard to buy right now, the risk by far outweighs the profit potential
sr. member
Activity: 854
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AGAIN only FOOOLS would sell now

what kind of idiot is sitting now behind his pc pushing the buttons to sell BTC  Huh

The Chinese pop and mom investors... . It is weekend after all. Bitcoin will be an export product only, in exchange for dollars coming into China, yuan going out of China is what cannot happen. And for the internal Chinese market there will be BCC.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
AGAIN only FOOOLS would sell now

what kind of idiot is sitting now behind his pc pushing the buttons to sell BTC  Huh

Someone who can buy it for less in a short while?
legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 11416
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Hi,

I am an absolute newby to this forum, this is my first post. On the other hand, I have been trading financial assets for quite some time.  

I expected today's BTC dip, whatever the supposed reason for it would come out to be (i.e. fake news from China) on the basis  of :

1. a simple analysis of trading volumes analyzed on various time frames

2. the application of Fibonacci retracement levels to the previous leg up

3. the application of Eliot's wave count to the previous leg up (impulse wave) and to the current leg down (correction wave)


Technical analysis is not science  and its various tools are not always churning out foolproof answers.  Some tools work better ( = more often and on more type of financial assets) than others, but even those can fail ( = give false signals).   In my experience,  Eliot and Fibonacci have the best predictive power because they are not based on averages of past datas but on eternal or, at least, recurrent human behavioural patterns.

This said,  I put out my 5 cents of wisdom to say that the market will find its way to correct lower  before it resumes its way up.  I have set a number of buying orders at decreasing price levels between 4000 and 3000 USD  so, to put my mouth where my money is, this is what I can recommend to others as well.

Good trades everybody !


Sure your post sounds reasonable newbie; however, you need to account for s-curve adoption, metcalfe networking principles and that bitcoin is an immature technology that is also going through fundamental extreme attacks and even weirdness in the cryptospace on a broader level with a variety of random and extreme performances of ICOs and alt coins, and that is where the fucktard over reliance on technical analysis frequently screws up with their assertions about supposed inevitable needs for correction in a kind of false equivalency about bitcoin being a supposed mature market.

Sure you could be correct this time (a stopped clock is correct twice a day), but please present your technical analysis with a bit more grains of salt and accounting for both the immature price finding aspect of bitcoin and the s-curve analysis which are important factors to not leave out when you are arriving at your supposed "reasonable" technical analysis conclusions and advices.
legendary
Activity: 2744
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
AGAIN only FOOOLS would sell now

what kind of idiot is sitting now behind his pc pushing the buttons to sell BTC  Huh
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
No, my claim is that fees are ~1000x more on a Bitcoin Segwit transaction as compared to a Bitcoin Cash transaction.
There are more than 900 altcoins and their tx fees are 1000x less compared to a Bitcoin tx fee. Are they better money than Bitcoin? What's your point, dumby?

My point is that Paashaas' characterization of my position was inaccurate and misleading. So I corrected him/her. My correction thereof is what you quoted above. What is it that compels you to wade in with guns blazing.... dumby?
legendary
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Dear China, just ban us already so we can be free of your meddling forever. Thank you.
legendary
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Just a little more off the top. I guess. Cry
meh what comes down must er go up

http://www.columbia.edu/~jl4130/BTC.pdf sorry for pdf
An Economic Analysis of the Bitcoin Payment System
Quote
Bitcoin is not regulated. It cannot be regulated.

 The regulation concerns fiat currency rather than Bitcoin.
legendary
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This isn’t the first time China is banning exchanges. Back in 2013, bitcoin dropped more than 50 percent as the government asked BTCChina to stop accepting deposits in Chinese yuan. The government changed its mind later on.
Do you thing something like that can happen now?

No. China is far less important for Bitcoin now than it was back in 2013.
legendary
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Be a bank
Just a little more off the top. I guess. Cry
meh what comes down must er go up

anyhoo
http://www.columbia.edu/~jl4130/BTC.pdf sorry for pdf
An Economic Analysis of the Bitcoin Payment System
Quote
Bitcoin is not regulated. It cannot be regulated.
full member
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This isn’t the first time China is banning exchanges. Back in 2013, bitcoin dropped more than 50 percent as the government asked BTCChina to stop accepting deposits in Chinese yuan. The government changed its mind later on.
Do you thing something like that can happen now?
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