Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16576.

jbreher

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lose: unfind ... loose: untight

Quote from: fragout on August 19, 2017, 05:52:25 AM

If a small group can affect the bitcoin market like this, what chance has it long term against bigger players?

What makes you think that the Bitcoin Cash advocates are a small group? All y'all might do well to get out of the theymos-controlled echo chambers from time to time.

aesma

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fly or die

Quote from: Torque on August 19, 2017, 12:22:08 PM

Quote from: rjclarke2000 on August 19, 2017, 11:39:11 AM

I'm not a BCH supporter but I don't think this is going away guys. Yes it may drop Back to 200-300-400 or whatever but this coin will be pumped at various times in the months to come IMO.

I am risking hodling this coin. How many other Alts pumped at the beginning and then lay dormant for ages before blasting up? Answer- the majority of them.

With Jihan and Ver in charge I can't see it failing like you all think. Didn't a lot of people say after the exchanges opened be quick to sell as it's going to plummet down to "cents"?

As I've said, I'll hodl as I think this alt will go up and shock/upset a few later on, manipulated or not.

Belief <> price. Or maybe for guys like you it does? I'm not certain of the anxiety you seem to be feeling.

Actually crypto price is all based on the belief of users. They have no intrinsic value.

BCH allows miners to diversify, maybe that will be a good thing in the long run.

I can't say I'm upset that my BCH are now worth real money, but I still consider it's not worth anything, that way if it dies I'm fine with it. I will still hold it though, as a protection if somehow it's BTC that dies instead.

bitserve

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Self made HODLER ✓

Quote from: jbreher on August 19, 2017, 12:11:29 PM

Quote from: bitserve on August 19, 2017, 12:54:33 AM

They just took a snapshot of Bitcoin blockchain at 1 Aug and started building blocks on it with their custom rules.

Bitcoin didn't fork. THEY created a completely separate fork, which is not the same.

You have this exactly backwards. Bitcoin Cash is exactly a fork of Bitcoin. No different in any conceptual way than any core release which changed some aspect of the protocol. Certainly a smaller change than the introduction of segwit.

So... If I go now and create my own "Bitcoin" fork with my own rules, and start building blocks on it... Will you say Bitcoin has forked again?

If I take BCH blockchain, add Segwit and another more extreme difficulty adjustment, and keep building blocks on it... Have BCH forked enabling Segwit?

No, it is just me doing my own fork.

Yes, BCH is a third party fork based on Bitcoin blockchain and code (loosely, as it doesn't have Segwit which is a critical enhacement).

My point is that Bitcoin has not forked. I didn't even see a single orphaned block because of that suppossed HF that happened to BTC.

When the time for Segwit2X comes, well, it is a possibility that Bitcoin forks. I hope it doesn't.

Anyway, you guys now have your "ideal" coin. Just keep swapping BTC for BCH and take advantage of its lower price vs Bitcoin before it is too late?

aesma

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fly or die

Quote from: Ludwig Von on August 19, 2017, 11:26:20 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Oh for fuck sake. Just got all my shit together to submit and...

And I have no penny, Sat to spend and they accepted thier 3 within a few hours... . Grin

Yeah I'm Tier 3 with only a couple of hundreds euros available, and no intention to sell bitcoins of any flavor. On the other hand for some reason my application for Tier 2 at Poloniex is stuck for more than a month (ticket opened, did what they asked, still stuck) so every day for more than 40 days now I'm withdrawing funds, tiring !

Torque

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Quote from: rjclarke2000 on August 19, 2017, 11:39:11 AM

I'm not a BCH supporter but I don't think this is going away guys. Yes it may drop Back to 200-300-400 or whatever but this coin will be pumped at various times in the months to come IMO.

I am risking hodling this coin. How many other Alts pumped at the beginning and then lay dormant for ages before blasting up? Answer- the majority of them.

With Jihan and Ver in charge I can't see it failing like you all think. Didn't a lot of people say after the exchanges opened be quick to sell as it's going to plummet down to "cents"?

As I've said, I'll hodl as I think this alt will go up and shock/upset a few later on, manipulated or not.

Belief <> price. Or maybe for guys like you it does? I'm not certain of the anxiety you seem to be feeling.

jbreher

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lose: unfind ... loose: untight

Quote from: bitserve on August 19, 2017, 12:54:33 AM

They just took a snapshot of Bitcoin blockchain at 1 Aug and started building blocks on it with their custom rules.

Bitcoin didn't fork. THEY created a completely separate fork, which is not the same.

You have this exactly backwards. Bitcoin Cash is exactly a fork of Bitcoin. No different in any conceptual way than any core release which changed some aspect of the protocol. Certainly a smaller change than the introduction of segwit.

P_Shep

legendary

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This is not OK.

Well, I've increased my BTC holding by about 20%

rjclarke2000

legendary

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I'm not a BCH supporter but I don't think this is going away guys. Yes it may drop Back to 200-300-400 or whatever but this coin will be pumped at various times in the months to come IMO.

I am risking hodling this coin. How many other Alts pumped at the beginning and then lay dormant for ages before blasting up? Answer- the majority of them.

With Jihan and Ver in charge I can't see it failing like you all think. Didn't a lot of people say after the exchanges opened be quick to sell as it's going to plummet down to "cents"?

As I've said, I'll hodl as I think this alt will go up and shock/upset a few later on, manipulated or not.

criptix

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You guys know what bitstamp, coinbase and friends are doing?

100% they are trading your BCH's right now.

jojo69

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diamond-handed zealot

Quote from: ?? on ??

Oh for fuck sake. Just got all my shit together to submit and...

Krakened...god those losers

re: MtGox, yeah, I'm not sure, the Japanese authorities have been pretty opaque

Miz4r

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I've sold all my BCH already at 0.2, BCH might go up to 0.3 or even 0.4 BTC just like ETC did relative to ETH but I'm not taking any chances. I just don't see a future long term for BCH. Roger and co imo are just pumping BCH to try and gather attention away from Segwit activation on BTC and attract more miners to their altcoin with the upcoming difficulty adjustment. I think there will be a dump after difficulty adjusts 110 blocks from now (around 24-36 hours), so I will be trading the swings for a while to try and get some more BTC.

Ludwig Von

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Oh for fuck sake. Just got all my shit together to submit and...

And I have no penny, Sat to spend and they accepted thier 3 within a few hours... . Grin

El duderino_

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BTC + Crossfit, living life.

Quote from: Torque on August 19, 2017, 10:16:33 AM

So is this the shitcoin top, or is the coup de grâce still to be seen?

I feel like the grand finale is still coming. Like right before SegWit activates. Or maybe that's what everyone else is thinking too.

i'm holding a bit to be sure

bitserve

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Self made HODLER ✓

Quote from: jojo69 on August 19, 2017, 10:55:31 AM

Quote from: bitserve on August 19, 2017, 10:10:07 AM

Anyone have any news on mtgox? It is way past the point in which they are solvent again. I want my money back already.

you saw this right? http://blog.wizsec.jp/

Yup. But how does it change the fact that they are solvent now?

jojo69

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diamond-handed zealot

Quote from: bitserve on August 19, 2017, 10:10:07 AM

Anyone have any news on mtgox? It is way past the point in which they are solvent again. I want my money back already.

you saw this right? http://blog.wizsec.jp/

HanvanBitcoin

full member

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Gotta love this BCH pump and dump! +9% again. Grin

soullyG

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Decentralize everything

Quote from: bitserve on August 19, 2017, 10:10:07 AM

Anyone have any news on mtgox? It is way past the point in which they are solvent again. I want my money back already.

I'm sure the authorities are trying to get as much dirt on Karpeles as possible, giving them to right to seize a bunch of the (now nice and expensive) coins.

bones261

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Quote from: Torque on August 19, 2017, 10:16:33 AM

So is this the shitcoin top, or is the coup de grâce still to be seen?

I feel like the grand finale is still coming. Like right before SegWit activates. Or maybe that's what everyone else is thinking too.

I'm afraid Bitcoin Cash will be like Michael Myers. It will keep coming back no matter what is thrown at it. Let's hope BTC is like Laurie Strode, though.

machasm

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Ain't even mad it's taking me awhile to get my shit together for Tier 3 (and then Tier 4) validation @ Kraken...

With my combined BTC and BCH, at the current fiat values, I feel it would be financially irresponsible NOT to dump BCH at the current overvalued price, and continue hodling BTC.

Coming up on $1k now. Staying up on this ride a bit longer and see what happens.

Pump Roger Pump !!!

Give em hell BobLawblaw.
Without being too rude do you think it will make a dent?

Torque

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So is this the shitcoin top, or is the coup de grâce still to be seen?

I feel like the grand finale is still coming. Like right before SegWit activates. Or maybe that's what everyone else is thinking too.

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