Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16672. (Read 26609641 times)
August 10, 2017, 10:09:06 AM
The price is not moving kraken price hanging at €2966,90 now
August 10, 2017, 10:05:38 AM
God I love how the discussion switched to the topic of early retirement =D
Personally I am not quite there yet, but pretty close to be able to e.g. pay my entire mortgage that I have left and have very low costs of living. That wouldn't be wise financially but it's a nice idea.
Personally I am not quite there yet, but pretty close to be able to e.g. pay my entire mortgage that I have left and have very low costs of living. That wouldn't be wise financially but it's a nice idea.
August 10, 2017, 10:00:43 AM
KRAKEN EUR ATH touched. (not broken yet)
45BTC WALL TO GO
45BTC WALL TO GO
August 10, 2017, 09:58:28 AM
New ATH again today? Currently at $3430
Will be great if its hit again - I'll keep more of an eye on the markets today =)I was honestly expecting another retest of the $3200 region before moving up, but the markets have been surprisingly resilient since Segwit/the fork
August 10, 2017, 09:57:40 AM
I first checked the $300 video.... after being horrified by the ugly apartment (not to mention the bathroom) I switched to the $600 one... Still horrified. Why would I want to be rich to live like that?
Maybe I am a bit picky about HOME and not that much about food, etc... donno. Is there any other videos for living a "rich" life on a budget there or something?
No idea. Like I said, living would be 3k per month not 300. When you start looking at higher costs it is more stuff catering to foreigners so the price can go up quickly.
My friend has a house with a pool and he figures 2k is enough.
Oh ok, then it isn't much cheaper than living in my country. Maybe it isn't even cheaper at all.
I supposse it looks cheap in comparison to living well in USA which, yes, it is really expensive and nice houses/apartments in premiun places are still incredibly overpriced. Salaries are also WAY higher so I guess it is ok.
August 10, 2017, 09:49:13 AM
I first checked the $300 video.... after being horrified by the ugly apartment (not to mention the bathroom) I switched to the $600 one... Still horrified. Why would I want to be rich to live like that?
Maybe I am a bit picky about HOME and not that much about food, etc... donno. Is there any other videos for living a "rich" life on a budget there or something?
No idea. Like I said, living would be 3k per month not 300. When you start looking at higher costs it is more stuff catering to foreigners so the price can go up quickly.
My friend has a house with a pool and he figures 2k is enough.
August 10, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
New ATH again today? Currently at $3430
Will be great if its hit again - I'll keep more of an eye on the markets today =) 
August 10, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
August 10, 2017, 09:18:50 AM
New ATH again today? Currently at $3430
August 10, 2017, 09:01:00 AM
Btw. For anyone who was wondering, I did some research on capital gains (United States).
A single person can sell about $38k worth of bitcoins per year and pay 0% capital gains as long as you have no other income (twice that as a married couple). That's about $3k per month tax free if you can find a place to live on that comfortably (You can live on $500 per month in Thailand).
Basically, If you are 30 and plan to live until 85 you only need about 150 bitcoins to retire right now, tax free.
About 100 BTC if you are over 50.
A single person can sell about $38k worth of bitcoins per year and pay 0% capital gains as long as you have no other income (twice that as a married couple). That's about $3k per month tax free if you can find a place to live on that comfortably (You can live on $500 per month in Thailand).
Basically, If you are 30 and plan to live until 85 you only need about 150 bitcoins to retire right now, tax free.
About 100 BTC if you are over 50.
When you say you can live with $500 per month.... what does that include?
Home Renting? Electricity? Food? Meds? Health care? Drinks? Car? Gas? Security? Clothes? Electronics? Mobile phone service? Internet?
Or is it just for home renting and food?
There are several blogs of living from $300 to $600 or so in Thailand.
$600/month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v61xbAJoQVI
$500/month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoEYAl7Bk5Q
$300/month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHP1OrFUZFA
But I am talking mainly about the locals living on that much. My gf has a 3 bedroom apartment she pays about $180/month for. Food is really cheap. Most things are really inexpensive.
I first checked the $300 video.... after being horrified by the ugly apartment (not to mention the bathroom) I switched to the $600 one... Still horrified. Why would I want to be rich to live like that?
Maybe I am a bit picky about HOME and not that much about food, etc... donno. Is there any other videos for living a "rich" life on a budget there or something?
August 10, 2017, 08:47:49 AM
Btw. For anyone who was wondering, I did some research on capital gains (United States).
A single person can sell about $38k worth of bitcoins per year and pay 0% capital gains as long as you have no other income (twice that as a married couple). That's about $3k per month tax free if you can find a place to live on that comfortably (You can live on $500 per month in Thailand).
Basically, If you are 30 and plan to live until 85 you only need about 150 bitcoins to retire right now, tax free.
About 100 BTC if you are over 50.
A single person can sell about $38k worth of bitcoins per year and pay 0% capital gains as long as you have no other income (twice that as a married couple). That's about $3k per month tax free if you can find a place to live on that comfortably (You can live on $500 per month in Thailand).
Basically, If you are 30 and plan to live until 85 you only need about 150 bitcoins to retire right now, tax free.
About 100 BTC if you are over 50.
When you say you can live with $500 per month.... what does that include?
Home Renting? Electricity? Food? Meds? Health care? Drinks? Car? Gas? Security? Clothes? Electronics? Mobile phone service? Internet?
Or is it just for home renting and food?
There are several blogs of living from $300 to $600 or so in Thailand.
$600/month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v61xbAJoQVI
$500/month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoEYAl7Bk5Q
$300/month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHP1OrFUZFA
But I am talking mainly about the locals living on that much. My gf has a 3 bedroom apartment she pays about $180/month for. Food is really cheap. Most things are really inexpensive.
August 10, 2017, 08:40:52 AM
Sympathic result of the fork : the massive upgrade of nodes (and miners software ... 
) result of better handling of the mempool priorities and fees.
I have emit a 22 sat/B transaction (0,00005 BTC of fees = low priority in hot wallet SPV mode) and only 2h to wait.
before that (before fork) : 1,8 days to 2 days to wait.
developper can decrease cost of the network, now ... (to decrease at 0,000001 BTC for example).
Lightning network consideration ?
) result of better handling of the mempool priorities and fees.I have emit a 22 sat/B transaction (0,00005 BTC of fees = low priority in hot wallet SPV mode) and only 2h to wait.
before that (before fork) : 1,8 days to 2 days to wait.
developper can decrease cost of the network, now ... (to decrease at 0,000001 BTC for example).
Lightning network consideration ? August 10, 2017, 08:26:32 AM
Btw. For anyone who was wondering, I did some research on capital gains (United States).
A single person can sell about $38k worth of bitcoins per year and pay 0% capital gains as long as you have no other income (twice that as a married couple). That's about $3k per month tax free if you can find a place to live on that comfortably (You can live on $500 per month in Thailand).
Basically, If you are 30 and plan to live until 85 you only need about 150 bitcoins to retire right now, tax free.
About 100 BTC if you are over 50.
A single person can sell about $38k worth of bitcoins per year and pay 0% capital gains as long as you have no other income (twice that as a married couple). That's about $3k per month tax free if you can find a place to live on that comfortably (You can live on $500 per month in Thailand).
Basically, If you are 30 and plan to live until 85 you only need about 150 bitcoins to retire right now, tax free.
About 100 BTC if you are over 50.
When you say you can live with $500 per month.... what does that include?
Home Renting? Electricity? Food? Meds? Health care? Drinks? Car? Gas? Security? Clothes? Electronics? Mobile phone service? Internet?
Or is it just for home renting and food?
August 10, 2017, 08:25:22 AM
if you haven't recovered from your socialist indoctrination, fine, it takes time, and we all do it at different rates
but can we stop with the reactionary statist claptrap, guys; it's vomitorious ffs in a bitcoin thread.
bitcoin is about creating sovereign individuals not sovereign states
you can't be fine with undoing central banks but somehow not fine with undoing central governments
You can assume I am an indoctrinated socialist if you wish, but you'd be wrong - and I am far from a reactionary statist, I have never worked for anyone but myself, so I am about as 'sovereign' as I can be. but can we stop with the reactionary statist claptrap, guys; it's vomitorious ffs in a bitcoin thread.
bitcoin is about creating sovereign individuals not sovereign states
you can't be fine with undoing central banks but somehow not fine with undoing central governments
We all have our opinions on this and you are of course are entitled to yours, but I don't see why you think I should approve of Brexit just because I am long term supporter of BTC. BTC doesn't care is you're a swivel-eyed fascist, or a fucking saint. Actually GBP crashing down to a multi-decade low has at least meant my BTC are worth more in GBP and I will be personally fine whatever happens - but then I would either way.
However, for my particular city (which voted overwhelmingly against Brexit), for my business and for my staff, it's not good news at all and I am just speaking of what I know, as I find it. That's all.
Spot on @kurious!
And Brexit is not an example of "undoing central governments". Maybe some people voted for it thinking it was but it isn't. It's just swapping one government for another even more centralized government. And in doing so the UK is going to be left in ruins. Many Leave voters now realise that they were lied to and manipulated (rendering the Brexiteers' meme that "the People have spoken" completely meaningless) but I don't think anybody can yet conceive of how disastrous this is going to be.
Ah well, collapsing economies are good for crypto!
August 10, 2017, 08:12:37 AM
Seriously guys, WTF is a NEO ?
According to the Shitcoin Gazette:
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NEO has recently gained some notoriety due to its collaboration with Chinese certificate authorities to map real-world assets using its smart contract technology. NEO has also signed partnership agreements with several startup companies.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Formerly known as AntShares. I don't understand why they changed their name. And the new logo is ugly.
But otherwise the tech seems interesting. A bit like the Chinese version of ETH whereas XEM is the Japanese version of ETH. I.E. All of them have the ability to do "smart contracts" but at least XEM has an API (application platform interface) that is able to use (or compatible with) many other coding languages unlike Etherium, which uses only a single programming language in their API. I'm not sure about NEO but anyways if you hodl NEO in your wallet, you get GAS, which is equivalent to ETH on the Ethereum blockchain.
Da Hongfei seems solid - no comparisons being offered (and after all we do invest in people)
NEO is quantum resistant and has a scaling solution (sharding) waiting to go.
Microsoft involvement, with listing real world assets- several other interesting collaborations - inlcuding with OnChain which is a private Blockchain/company which is owned by Da Hongfei & partners, and is VERY VERY VERY well connected. Also as well as the Neo Chain and On Chain there is the Law Chain/Identity Chain, which the gubermint are on board with- also BFT Blockchain is compliant with the good folks in the guberment.
They are building fiat on and off ramps- one will be able to store fiat on chain, and take fees and charges in fiat.
The Chinese love to back their own.
Also of interest is the GAS you get paid- you get paid for bookkeeping activities per a fixed reward - however there are also going to be fees chargable
for creating and executing smart contracts. (effectively you become a share holder of Neo Chain and share in all ongoing profits generated by activites on the chain , and not just the fixed "block rewards" )
It looks like they will enter some interesting markets, ICO's Invoice factoring for not just SME's but also some bigger players (I can see OnChain linking them with Alibaba further in the future)
I have been singing its praises since around $1 - I am locked and loaded- and will continue to acquire more.
These guys impressed me - take it as a shill or take it as information- up to you.
This coin is going to number 2 IMO - been saying so for months.
(Ps this is a bit of a corp /guberment friendly coin- I make no moral statements regarding this- I just think it has success written all over it in giant red marker pen... from an investment/trading point of view)
How can it be quantum resistant before quantum is really a proper thing. Who knows what it will or wont do? or will and wont do for that matter.
August 10, 2017, 08:10:45 AM
Btw. For anyone who was wondering, I did some research on capital gains (United States).
A single person can sell about $38k worth of bitcoins per year and pay 0% capital gains as long as you have no other income (twice that as a married couple). That's about $3k per month tax free if you can find a place to live on that comfortably (You can live on $500 per month in Thailand).
Basically, If you are 30 and plan to live until 85 you only need about 150 bitcoins to retire right now, tax free.
About 100 BTC if you are over 50.
A single person can sell about $38k worth of bitcoins per year and pay 0% capital gains as long as you have no other income (twice that as a married couple). That's about $3k per month tax free if you can find a place to live on that comfortably (You can live on $500 per month in Thailand).
Basically, If you are 30 and plan to live until 85 you only need about 150 bitcoins to retire right now, tax free.
About 100 BTC if you are over 50.
August 10, 2017, 08:00:34 AM
You can book it on expedia with bitcoins 
I prefer south korea (jeju island for example ...).
I currently live in South Korea. Have not visited Jeju Island yet. Will definitely give it a try. I have not been taking advantage of the country as much as I should though...mainly sticking close to home. I don't know why.
August 10, 2017, 07:48:22 AM
Anyone else still having active lendings from end of July at the crazy rates those days?
I only left there a fraction of a BTC that I wouldn't care to withdraw so I decided to lend it. 11 days later I have had a ROI of more than 20% (2% daily). The lend is for 60 days, but the borrower could cancel any time.
Why would someone do that? If he keeps the lend until the end of the period I will make 120% on it. What is that, someone marging shorting BTC until he gets liquidated? (if not for the price increase for the huge lending interest).
Unfortunately it was a very small amount but... still... Anyone still having some active lends at crazy rates for a significant amount of BTC?
maybe its just small part of his margin loan, so he didnt notice. I only left there a fraction of a BTC that I wouldn't care to withdraw so I decided to lend it. 11 days later I have had a ROI of more than 20% (2% daily). The lend is for 60 days, but the borrower could cancel any time.
Why would someone do that? If he keeps the lend until the end of the period I will make 120% on it. What is that, someone marging shorting BTC until he gets liquidated? (if not for the price increase for the huge lending interest).
Unfortunately it was a very small amount but... still... Anyone still having some active lends at crazy rates for a significant amount of BTC?
rate i can lend on finex atm is just 0.02-0.03 (?) not worth it. You are lucky
Yes, that makes sense. He opened the loan on the worst possible moment (skyhigh rates) but maybe most of it were 2 day term loans that have already been renewed at much lower rates.
It's a very small amount, but enough to buy me a few drinks with the interest earned alone
Anecdotical. Just wanting to know if somebody experienced the same with a more considerable amount of BTC.
August 10, 2017, 07:44:29 AM
You can book it on expedia with bitcoins
I prefer south korea (jeju island for example ...).
August 10, 2017, 07:18:01 AM
Yes, since it simply uses the google results but not linked to your IP / identity. You can scroll down a bit on the main website for details.
(I would advise to create a personal link in the settings to for example only use EU servers, search suggestions etc)
Cheers - I will check it out
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