r0ach proven right by zerohedge - Bitcoin market is a Gox-style fraud controlled by Bitfinex
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/r0ach-proven-right-bitcoin-market-is-a-gox-style-fraud-controlled-by-bitfinex-2070166
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16754. (Read 26712985 times)
August 06, 2017, 08:48:09 PM
August 06, 2017, 08:27:03 PM
Damn, BCH is rallying.
August 06, 2017, 07:57:07 PM
Hey guys, I traded some BCH when it was $210.
It's now $240.
You're welcome.
It's now $240.
You're welcome.
August 06, 2017, 05:55:59 PM
you mentioned Satoshi, who is billionaire (virtually as he did not spend one coin yet) so..... hodling till death? 
Most likely, he's already dead:
https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/everything-makes-sense-if-david-kleiman-was-satoshi-nakamoto-heres-why/
Or half of Satoshi is dead, at least.
August 06, 2017, 05:41:34 PM
Besides, billionaires don't always make the right decisions.
Let's talk about the time that Warren Buffet bought about 129 million oz of silver at $3.50 to $4/oz. around 2002-2003. Then he dumped all the silver in 2005 around $6/oz. Good timing on a great trade, right?
By 2007 silver was up to $17/oz.
By 2011 silver was up to $48/oz.
Yeah, what a loser, only made 260 million buckos. And it took a whole two! years! That is, like, a LONG time.Let's talk about the time that Warren Buffet bought about 129 million oz of silver at $3.50 to $4/oz. around 2002-2003. Then he dumped all the silver in 2005 around $6/oz. Good timing on a great trade, right?
By 2007 silver was up to $17/oz.
By 2011 silver was up to $48/oz.
Don't get me started on his amazingly bad long position he took on IBM (about 10 years too late), where he ended up losing $444 million.
I doubt any of these billionaires have problems obtaining enough to eat. 
Unless they are stricken by some kind of eating disorder. Even in the event of total financial collapse; I'm sure they have enough assets to barter to keep themselves well fed.
Unless they are stricken by some kind of eating disorder. Even in the event of total financial collapse; I'm sure they have enough assets to barter to keep themselves well fed.Warren Buffett eats the $1 menu at McDonalds every single day for breakfast. He is going to kill himself early eating that shit.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/warren-buffetts-breakfast-never-costs-more-than-317.html
August 06, 2017, 05:15:12 PM
So what is the difference betwen transaction on BCH and BTC chain. Chains were same before split.
Quote from: www.bitcoincash.org
August 06, 2017, 05:01:04 PM
....... talking of dumps
I wonder how much longer will BCH hold $200 for
I wonder how much longer will BCH hold $200 for
So what happens if I send BCH to exchange (or somebody).
Can anybody publish same transaction on BTC network and take my Bitcoins ?
No, your private key is not exposed by the transaction hash, anymore than it is exposed on the regular Bitcoin chain. (edit: unless there is a bug that we don't know about.) However, are the wallets that run BCC free of bugs that could expose your private keys? The common wisdom is to move your bitcoin away from any private keys that you may import into BCC software. Even Trezor isn't confident that their BCC wallet is bug free. Just look at all of their disclaimers. https://blog.trezor.io/claim-bcash-bitcoin-cash-bch-bcc-trezor-wallet-f0a810d5864a
So what is the difference betwen transaction on BCH and BTC chain. Chains were same before split.
August 06, 2017, 04:30:05 PM
One broker said a mortgage-free homeowner with a house valued at £10m had taken out a fixed-rate loan of just under £2m to buy bitcoin, the crypto currency that has seen huge volatility in recent months. Others have invested in classic cars or fine wine.
https://www.ft.com/content/d175fc82-76a7-11e7-90c0-90a9d1bc9691 (via @mod6)
oldish: http://news.8btc.com/even-friedcat-cant-ignore-bitcoin-cash-over-17k-btc-moved
https://www.ft.com/content/d175fc82-76a7-11e7-90c0-90a9d1bc9691 (via @mod6)
oldish: http://news.8btc.com/even-friedcat-cant-ignore-bitcoin-cash-over-17k-btc-moved
August 06, 2017, 04:20:54 PM
you mentioned Satoshi, who is billionaire (virtually as he did not spend one coin yet) so..... hodling till death?
It's beginning to look that way. Most coin developers would have dumped their coins long ago. Look at what Vitalik Buterin did.
hahahaha...
Yep a very interesting contrast.. not only did Vitalik dump a whole bunch of his coins, he can also play god and increase the number of coins.. probably including his own distribution and replacement of the coins that he sold. I am sure he is not hurting from having had sold a large amount of his stash below $20.
August 06, 2017, 03:31:30 PM
you mentioned Satoshi, who is billionaire (virtually as he did not spend one coin yet) so..... hodling till death?
Most likely, he's already dead:
https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/everything-makes-sense-if-david-kleiman-was-satoshi-nakamoto-heres-why/
August 06, 2017, 03:01:37 PM
....... talking of dumps
I wonder how much longer will BCH hold $200 for
I wonder how much longer will BCH hold $200 for
So what happens if I send BCH to exchange (or somebody).
Can anybody publish same transaction on BTC network and take my Bitcoins ?
No, your private key is not exposed by the transaction hash, anymore than it is exposed on the regular Bitcoin chain. (edit: unless there is a bug that we don't know about.) However, are the wallets that run BCC free of bugs that could expose your private keys? The common wisdom is to move your bitcoin away from any private keys that you may import into BCC software. Even Trezor isn't confident that their BCC wallet is bug free. Just look at all of their disclaimers. https://blog.trezor.io/claim-bcash-bitcoin-cash-bch-bcc-trezor-wallet-f0a810d5864a
August 06, 2017, 02:57:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x5qF7vI-Sc
ThickAsThieves smokes a blunt with Vinny Lingham and the WCN irregulars
ThickAsThieves smokes a blunt with Vinny Lingham and the WCN irregulars
August 06, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
....... talking of dumps
I wonder how much longer will BCH hold $200 for
I wonder how much longer will BCH hold $200 for
So what happens if I send BCH to exchange (or somebody).
Can anybody publish same transaction on BTC network and take my Bitcoins ?
August 06, 2017, 02:42:53 PM
you mentioned Satoshi, who is billionaire (virtually as he did not spend one coin yet) so..... hodling till death?
It's beginning to look that way. Most coin developers would have dumped their coins long ago. Look at what Vitalik Buterin did.
August 06, 2017, 02:41:17 PM
BCH transaction are getting much faster today
Look at here : https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/blocks
Look at here : https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/blocks
Last column ... is DIFFICULTY.Code:
478651 2017-08-06 08:36 23 39.242 8,000.000 144323701657.02
478650 2017-08-06 08:33 70 43.457 8,000.000 144323701657.02
478649 2017-08-06 08:25 429 356.519 8,000.000 144323701657.02
478648 2017-08-06 07:19 124 59.328 8,000.000 144323701657.02
478647 2017-08-06 06:59 212 135.036 8,000.000 180404627071.27
478646 2017-08-06 06:25 126 65.945 8,000.000 225505642691.99
478645 2017-08-06 06:08 287 321.857 8,000.000 225505642691.99
478644 2017-08-06 05:53 1,082 999.143 8,000.000 225505642691.99
478643 2017-08-06 02:21 545 493.871 8,000.000 225505642691.99
51% attack is more easy now ... than ever in the REAL BITCOIN Network.
August 06, 2017, 02:38:19 PM
you mentioned Satoshi, who is billionaire (virtually as he did not spend one coin yet) so..... hodling till death?
August 06, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
Besides, billionaires don't always make the right decisions.
Let's talk about the time that Warren Buffet bought about 129 million oz of silver at $3.50 to $4/oz. around 2002-2003. Then he dumped all the silver in 2005 around $6/oz. Good timing on a great trade, right?
By 2007 silver was up to $17/oz.
By 2011 silver was up to $48/oz.
Let's talk about the time that Warren Buffet bought about 129 million oz of silver at $3.50 to $4/oz. around 2002-2003. Then he dumped all the silver in 2005 around $6/oz. Good timing on a great trade, right?
By 2007 silver was up to $17/oz.
By 2011 silver was up to $48/oz.
Furthermore, many of these billionaire's fortunes are not exactly liquid (at least to them.) Much of their fortune is the value of the stocks that they hold for their companies. Why would they liquidate a substantial portion of their interest in their own companies? I'm sure many of them hold their own companies very near and dear to their hearts. Just like Satosi has HODL the vast majority of his bitcoins. Why risk hurting your baby by crashing its market, by liquidating even 5% of your holdings?
what about because humans needs to eat at least?
if everybody will only HODL there will be no trade no volumes nothing, so thankfully there are people which are not HODLING till they die....
I doubt any of these billionaires have problems obtaining enough to eat.
Unless they are stricken by some kind of eating disorder. Even in the event of total financial collapse; I'm sure they have enough assets to barter to keep themselves well fed. 
August 06, 2017, 02:30:31 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.
Still hanging in over $3kUSD/4kCAD basically going sideways at $3259USD (Bitcoinaverage) while Altcash continues to slide down to $208USD.
As difficulty drops on the Altcash network, transactions will speed up, allowing more people to dump their free altcoins while they can still get something for them.
Let's see what segwit brings.
Many of us voted $3500 because it was the highest option available in the original poll and you can't change your vote.
The last 2 options were added after it burst past $3000 a couple if nights ago.
Still hanging in over $3kUSD/4kCAD basically going sideways at $3259USD (Bitcoinaverage) while Altcash continues to slide down to $208USD.
As difficulty drops on the Altcash network, transactions will speed up, allowing more people to dump their free altcoins while they can still get something for them.
Let's see what segwit brings.
Many voted for bitcoin price to reach $3,500+ by the end of this month but my prediction something might go over 5000 $+ + because it is going very fast while everyone else holding .
Many of us voted $3500 because it was the highest option available in the original poll and you can't change your vote.
The last 2 options were added after it burst past $3000 a couple if nights ago.
realice dos transacciones, una en bitcoin core y otra en cash.
Fee btc 1.4eur
Fee bcc 0.03eur
No digo mas. Tardarón lo mismo, contando que la dificultad de bcc aun no esta ajustada. Además de la campaña por parte de Core mineros intentando sabotear el ajuste automatico cada 12h. Realmente patetico, pero aquí la gente como corderos con los ojos vendados
We're not blindfolded; it's just that few people here really give a shit about BCH.
August 06, 2017, 02:26:28 PM
Besides, billionaires don't always make the right decisions.
Let's talk about the time that Warren Buffet bought about 129 million oz of silver at $3.50 to $4/oz. around 2002-2003. Then he dumped all the silver in 2005 around $6/oz. Good timing on a great trade, right?
By 2007 silver was up to $17/oz.
By 2011 silver was up to $48/oz.
Let's talk about the time that Warren Buffet bought about 129 million oz of silver at $3.50 to $4/oz. around 2002-2003. Then he dumped all the silver in 2005 around $6/oz. Good timing on a great trade, right?
By 2007 silver was up to $17/oz.
By 2011 silver was up to $48/oz.
Furthermore, many of these billionaire's fortunes are not exactly liquid (at least to them.) Much of their fortune is the value of the stocks that they hold for their companies. Why would they liquidate a substantial portion of their interest in their own companies? I'm sure many of them hold their own companies very near and dear to their hearts. Just like Satosi has HODL the vast majority of his bitcoins. Why risk hurting your baby by crashing its market, by liquidating even 5% of your holdings?
what about because humans needs to eat at least?
if everybody will only HODL there will be no trade no volumes nothing, so thankfully there are people which are not HODLING till they die....
August 06, 2017, 02:24:07 PM
Besides, billionaires don't always make the right decisions.
Let's talk about the time that Warren Buffet bought about 129 million oz of silver at $3.50 to $4/oz. around 2002-2003. Then he dumped all the silver in 2005 around $6/oz. Good timing on a great trade, right?
By 2007 silver was up to $17/oz.
By 2011 silver was up to $48/oz.
Let's talk about the time that Warren Buffet bought about 129 million oz of silver at $3.50 to $4/oz. around 2002-2003. Then he dumped all the silver in 2005 around $6/oz. Good timing on a great trade, right?
By 2007 silver was up to $17/oz.
By 2011 silver was up to $48/oz.
Furthermore, many of these billionaire's fortunes are not exactly liquid (at least to them.) Much of their fortune is the value of the stocks that they hold for their companies. Why would they liquidate a substantial portion of their interest in their own companies? I'm sure many of them hold their own companies very near and dear to their hearts. Just like Satosi has HODL the vast majority of his bitcoins. Why risk hurting your baby by crashing its market, by liquidating even 5% of your holdings?
what about because humans needs to eat at least?
if everybody will only HODL there will be no trade no volumes nothing, so thankfully there are people which are not HODLING till they die....
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