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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16907. (Read 26714044 times)

legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Yeah, fuck, I am sorry Torque that you shorted or sold or something in the $2400 territories, but it seems that you will be very lucky if you are able to get back in anywhere below $2600 - and that might be a considerable stretch absent some very convincing FUD - because ordinary FUD is not likely to damper the current ongoing upwards BTC price pressures.

In other words, sorry for your loss.    Tongue

1) I didn't sell

Well, I am glad that you did not sell.  From your various insistence on bearish perspective talk, despite facts, sometimes I get the sense that you may have sold based on your stated views and to align your BTC holdings (and fiat holdings) in order to align your holdings with your views of the future.




2) Quoted you for posterity. Barring some black swan event, I'm pretty sure that within 6 months from now that the bitcoin price is going to be much lower than where we are now. Markets don't go up forever (unless it's the U.S. stock market). I'm gonna have fun rubbing this statement in your nose in the future JJG.  Grin


What the fuck?  You act as if there is only one version of the future?  Sure, once the future happens, there is only one version, but before it happens, it is based on a series of events and the occurrences of various known unknowns and unknown unknowns.

So we have to get past these various occurrences first.

Again, who the fuck cares if the price is going to return to these places? I am making no kind of strong prediction about either price direction; however, if we are betting down down downs, sooner or later that bet is going to be correct, but if the price either goes to $3500 first or to $5k first, then so the fuck what that it returns to $2700 or lower.  You have been missing a lot of opportunities, if all you can think about it down, down, down when the odds of up are greater.  So yeah, maybe from here within the $2650 to $2950 price range the odds are slightly more up than down (perhaps 55% for up and 45% for down), and in that regards, the odds of down are not insubstantial, they are just less than the odds for up... so I don't know what purpose it serves you to assert that I am wrong about something when the spread of my depiction for down versus  up  is not really that much different - even though I am calling up.. ?  At least at this point.




3) Oh, and everybody here knows that you are a troll

What good is this accusation?  You should at least know me well enough to recognize that a vast majority of my posts are to attempt some kind of substantive contribution.  Merely, because I have a tendency to respond to your various outrageous statements does not cause me to become an actual troll regardless of your supposed insight into what "everyone here" knows.

Actually, frequently, I respond to your various nonsubstantiated accusations, and then all I hear from you is crickets.  Tongue Tongue    Roll Eyes  Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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born once atheist
Rofl, Bitcoin Cash is really 0.15 real Bitcoin worth ? Can't wait for the HF.  This is even better than Byteball. Grin

damn straight!!!
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
after bip141 locks in there is another 2016 blocks grace period before it goes live on the network ... maybe around August 21 which is dun-dun-dun ... solar eclipse day over North America!

coincidence!? i think not.
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
... more like 18 days until possible bip141 (actual segwit) lock in .... ~144 blocks per day

I think it feels like we might get a pump here to a new ATH in the next 24 hrs ... smart crypto money front-running the wave of dumb fiat stuck in the legacy banking system (and gold 3rd party accounts) until Monday mornings.
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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 Shocked volumes stop on exchange ...  Grin and price, too ... !
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
So what's the estimated date for activation. I'm guessing Aug 1st is a nothing date now we are locked in. (As I always say I am only a hodler so my knowledge on these kind of things are limited)


I think that you are correct that currently, August 1 is a nothing date - even though some exchanges have still not clarified that they will be staying open during such time.

Regarding lock in, I think that you can calculate from the information on:

https://coin.dance/blocks

As I type, there are 711 blocks left in this period, which will not result in locking in; however, it appears that the next period will cause locking in.

Therefore

711 blocks  in current period

+

2016 blocks in the upcoming locking in period

___________

Divided by 10 minutes per block

272.7

Divided by 24 hours in a day

11.36  days from July 23, 2017

So more or less depending on your time zone, late in the day on August 2, 2017 or early in the day on August 3, 2017 segwit will be locked in.

Did I calculate that correctly?

legendary
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Rofl, Bitcoin Cash is really 0.15 real Bitcoin worth ? Can't wait for the HF.  This is even better than Byteball. Grin
It's going to have a (probably) negative effect on the price of Bitcoin, but hey, supposing you employ replay attack prevention, it IS free altcoin. Let's hope it doesn't go down too much in this mess, though. I will definitely dump ABC if I get the opportunity.

Who cares about short term price fluctuations, either way it's going to be simultaneously free BitcoinCash Coins and probably cheaper real Bitcoins. I take that opportunity with open arms.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I bought silver at $30 so I am a total idiot and I was devastated as it dropped.

I just wish I'd thrown it all in bitcoin early 2013 instead of silver. We can all look back and say what if I guess....

On the plus side I was buying bitcoin up in the 200s and it's not turned out too bad.

It kinda makes me wonder what Roach paid for his beloved silver.

He reminds me of Kwukduck. So embittered by his poor investing skills that he spends his days belittling Bitcoin.  Grin


It just seems that someone must be paying him for all of his efforts because no quasi-sane person would spend so muchtime talking about irrelevant topics in a bitcoin thread (Pms and various racial and sexual hatemongerings)
legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!
Rofl, Bitcoin Cash is really 0.15 real Bitcoin worth ? Can't wait for the HF.  This is even better than Byteball. Grin
It's going to have a (probably) negative effect on the price of Bitcoin, but hey, supposing you employ replay attack prevention, it IS free altcoin. Let's hope it doesn't go down too much in this mess, though. I will definitely dump ABC if I get the opportunity.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"


If I had any friends I would tell them about bitcoin for sure.


you have friends in this thread.... We will be your friends, and when you start being a smart-ass, we will denigrate you and insult you to death..  Cheesy Cheesy   Tongue

I've been there plenty of times in this thread.
legendary
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Rofl, Bitcoin Cash is really 0.15 real Bitcoin worth ? Can't wait for the HF.  This is even better than Byteball. Grin
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
My friends and family just roll their eyes and just figure it's an extension of my gambling problem. They are probably right. However, since I made my entry in late 2014/early 2015, this has been more fruitful than my attempts at card counting. (Didn't help that I tried to mask my card counting by accepting all of the free drinks.) They may be coming around though. My partner scolded me for using my btc to purchase a small gold bar the other day.

Hehe, it often happens that new adepts are more zealous than seasoned ones...

I only wish that I had been more zealous when I started dabbling in cryptocurrencies. If I had invested only a fraction of what I was willing to risk at blackjack over the years instead of chump change, I'd be looking at 6 or 7 figures of value rather than a paltry 4 figures. The saying, "rather be safe than sorry" just does not ring true right now for me. I've been safe and now I'm sorry.  Cheesy

You are a skeptic and you are a bit of a bitcoin bear..

What can you do about it?  Maybe go to bitcoin bull training and get rehabilitated from your bear inclinations?  Is it possible?
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
In my case it was the following:

I talked about bitcoin and nobody believed and I started using my bitcoins in real life, I bought a lot of things thanks to the investments I made with bitcoin, it did not take long for people to start asking me, i told them again about bitcoin And they started to know and use bitcoin

People are only interested in something that benefits them
Actually they now believe because of the rapid rising of bitcoins value. But when its about $300 they never believe us that it can potentially go up 10 times.

Well for about 8 or 9 months in 2015 it was mostly below $280 and frequently below $250.  

I recall that there was not too much posting about bitcoin in these forums - and even some of the most staunch of bitcoin bulls were questioning their BTC investment and getting out and questioning whether they should buy moar or wait in case there were a further drop.  I recall a lot of people suggesting that I cut my losses.

Almost all of us were in that questioning boat and lacking some confidence, especially when the bear market drags out for so long and there were few optimistic posters in those days... so pleasant surprises came from movements to $300 and elation when we went we had the brief spike to $500 in early November 2015 - even though seemingly short-lived and questioning whether prices would go up to $500 again or just return back down.. very uncertain times, and probably we could not feel too confident about being out of the BTC bear market until about May 2016 when we broke above $500 in spite of the ongoing and persistent bear attempts to keep BTC down..

At that point in about mid-2016, the bearwhales, bankshills and anti-bitcoin folks lost control of their bear market... and the rest is history, so to speak.   Wink Wink Cheesy
legendary
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So does all of Jihan's/Antpool's hash power go BitcoinCash after Aug 1st?  
Jihan's words about this were noncommittal, along the lines of "we will use some of our hash power on our new coin..."

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If the parasites (Jihan, Ver, ViaBTC) all move their hash away from bitcoin... I hate to admit it but that makes BTC less secure overall but it's also nice to get rid of these clowns.
I don't think we'll get rid of them anytime soon.

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What's stopping Jihan, ViaBTC, and Ver to market dump their thousands of BTC after Aug 1 to plummet the price and freeze sales of BCC to artificially pump the price... making it appear as if BCC is the winning chain.
Greed. It would cost them an arm and a leg.
legendary
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Been busy. Who won the auction for the girl?

You won! Enjoy a lifetime of nagging.

Ah, marriage, a great institution...

...if you want to live in an institution.

 Cheesy

I spent two days in the clink once. The place really could have used a woman's touch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOuQywiRUJo
legendary
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Self made HODLER ✓
So does all of Jihan's/Antpool's hash power go BitcoinCash after Aug 1st?  

If the parasites (Jihan, Ver, ViaBTC) all move their hash away from bitcoin... I hate to admit it but that makes BTC less secure overall but it's also nice to get rid of these clowns.

What's stopping Jihan, ViaBTC, and Ver to market dump their thousands of BTC after Aug 1 to plummet the price and freeze sales of BCC to artificially pump the price... making it appear as if BCC is the winning chain.



As a bluff it may be ok... really doing it would be completely stupid and would trash all confidence in cryptocurrencies in general.
legendary
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So does all of Jihan's/Antpool's hash power go BitcoinCash after Aug 1st?  

If the parasites (Jihan, Ver, ViaBTC) all move their hash away from bitcoin... I hate to admit it but that makes BTC less secure overall but it's also nice to get rid of these clowns.

What's stopping Jihan, ViaBTC, and Ver to market dump their thousands of BTC after Aug 1 to plummet the price and freeze sales of BCC to artificially pump the price... making it appear as if BCC is the winning chain.



They will offer an option, most probably. I'm sure Antpool will give generous giveaway offers to anyone who opts to point their hash at Bitcoincash. Hashnest still owes me .39 BTC on my Pacmic contract. They better not try to pay me back in this bologna. Angry

Edit: I just asked on their thread if Bitcoincash will be merge minable. If so, these pools can mine both at the same time... If it is merge minable, it would be quite the scandal if these pools didn't divulge that to their miners and keep the coins on the chain the miner opts out of...
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