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legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
We'll see the bull keep going until later next week and then likely a major dump. However, we'll see 5 digits by Feb 2018 w/ a major breakout coming in 2019. That's right I said it.

That is the question. I have 100 btc and nothing in anymore but time/hobby/labor....I mined my way into the 100 btc being all profit...thus how the hell can I even think
about selling....triumph or tulips at this point in time for me.

But the question is again how high will it go....if it goes to say 6k drops to 3k and recovers....slowly say 4-5 months of sideways..then repeats

I expect a 'staircase' kind of climb...right now it looks like a high speed escalator at WTH speed Smiley

but anyway ...there will be a correction dump or whatever you want to call it...but damn from how high to how far a correction will it be

and IF it is all about adoption..it may NOT stop rising for a few months yet depending on demand

anyway the pucker factor to sell will be immense when if it hits 5,000 usd btc imho.....shit got real Smiley


But again...say it dumps back to 2k ....well hell it was $450 usd last July 2016 or so right? ......the real question is does btc and crypto have legs to NOT

drop below 2k anymore etc etc.....if so that means it must be a combo of 'adoption' and 'holding' of a pretty substantial scale imho...more so if it pumps to 5k eventually

anyway, out of my hands ..just have to ride this sled down the hill ....exciting times

A case could be made for me selling out now..but I'd feel ok at 1k btc again vs 5k btc if I jumped out now....such is the bet..such are folks choices




It's not all or nothing, Searing.  Intuitively, you seem to know that, even though you are spouting out about selling just in case prices go to $1k... hahahaha  Cheesy

I have seen before that you seem to like this number 100BTC and you seem to want to maintain your holdings at that, even when you sell some you want to get them back, and there is nothing wrong with that - except you seem a little bit nervous about holding that much and how much actual dollars it represents (and of course profits), and in that regard, maybe you should take some profits.  Maybe, you could take 5 BTC off the table or or 10btc or a greater amount or a smaller amount.  You do not have to bet the whole lot.

Even taking 1 BTC off the lot for every $200 rise, would still leave you with nearly 90BTC if we were to reach $5k, but sounds to me that you would like to take a bit more off the table, even though you like that 100BTC number.

Go on, tweak the number in order that you feel more comfortable and plan for the rise.  At least make an outline of a plan that is comfortable for you and that you can live with either way.

I'm at about 91% BTC in my BTC investment fund, and I am pretty comfortable with that at these prices - however, if prices shoot up to $5k, I will probably be around 85% - but that still can leave me in a kind of quandary about whether I believe my cash is working hard enough.  Yeah, of course, if the price drops, you wish that you would have sold more and if the price goes up, you wished you would not have sold so much.  You are never going to get around that dilemma, so you gotta just embrace whatever plan you make and just tweak it on the edges, rather than taking drastic steps.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
btc decentralises nation states - what is for example the USG without the US$? and what is the USA without the USG? Angry people with guns.
and boats. any ship or island when that shtf will be a sitting target for pirates.

Pirates sound scary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxK7o74-kY

Could even make a sport out of them...target practice.

lol well yes they weren't much of a match. point is pirates will seize bigger gvt assets


So you're basically saying that seasteads will be such a great thing that people will be clamoring to get to one.

Reminds me of the early days of Bitcoin when the Keynesians were saying that nobody will ever buy bitcoins because the value will keep rising.
legendary
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Self made HODLER ✓
Can someone answer Why then price is getting So Fast down And up the whole time?
Were not in a correction mode i geus...

So fast up and down?

Are you thinking in terms of percentage or absolute numbers?

Because it is percentage what counts.

When/IF Bitcoin is at $50.000 we will probably see swings of $1000-$5000 a day as if it wasn't any big deal. That's a 2-10% a day. Which is not that rare in stocks market btw (not the index, individual stocks).
copper member
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Clueless!
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
btc decentralises nation states - what is for example the USG without the US$? and what is the USA without the USG? Angry people with guns.
and boats. any ship or island when that shtf will be a sitting target for pirates.

Pirates sound scary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxK7o74-kY

Could even make a sport out of them...target practice.

lol well yes they weren't much of a match. point is pirates will seize bigger gvt assets



lol how old money and banks see bitcoin... a sub they can't track and can't control ..that can nuke their ass.....lol Smiley

legendary
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Be a bank
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
btc decentralises nation states - what is for example the USG without the US$? and what is the USA without the USG? Angry people with guns.
and boats. any ship or island when that shtf will be a sitting target for pirates.

Pirates sound scary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxK7o74-kY

Could even make a sport out of them...target practice.

lol well yes they weren't much of a match. point is pirates will seize bigger gvt assets
sr. member
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Can someone answer Why then price is getting So Fast down And up the whole time?
Were not in a correction mode i geus...
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
Long explanation of seasteding

TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.

I see, that makes the whole thing much clearer, thank you for taking the time to type that! It's a great concept and I'll be happy to support it when and if I can.

I'd be interested to find out more about the logistics of such a thing - are there plans to grow food and produce energy within the seasteads?
hero member
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Plant 1xTree for each Satoshi earned!
legendary
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legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
btc decentralises nation states - what is for example the USG without the US$? and what is the USA without the USG? Angry people with guns.
and boats. any ship or island when that shtf will be a sitting target for pirates.

Pirates sound scary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxK7o74-kY

Could even make a sport out of them...target practice.
hero member
Activity: 1876
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Plant 1xTree for each Satoshi earned!
Where is correction? Huh Huh


You just had correction a few hours ago!  Roll Eyes


Next one is uncertain... It can be a smaller one now... or a bigger one after $3200 < > 3800$  ... but from what I see the US dollar keeps devaluing like a happy champ!  Grin  Grin  ... So that might influence things a bit.
legendary
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Be a bank
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
btc decentralises nation states - what is for example the USG without the US$? and what is the USA without the USG? Angry people with guns.
and boats. any ship or island when that shtf will be a sitting target for pirates.
sr. member
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legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
I remember when the price shot up to 60 dollars when I had bought at 20, all my friends at work were saying I should sell. Calling me crazy for not selling as it went over 100.

I will diversify into Seasteading later this year as I see that as the next world changing technology that I believe in.

You know what I tell these people? "You didn't tell me when to buy, so don't tell me when to sell!"

Can you post something elaborating on why seasteading is a world changing technology? I fail to see the implications...

Though currently it is being spun as a "green technology" to appease the environmental mafia, the concept is similar to cryptocurrencies in that you can spin up your own "government" and let the best one win.

We're just about to start Phase 1 which is building a prototype in a nation's protected harbor with limited autonomy. Phase 2 is moving 12nm outside of the nation's borders but still in fairly shallow waters and inside the nation's EEZ. The final phase, Phase 3 is an autonomous seastead 200nm from any nation in international waters. Basically creating a new floating nation. The first one will be like Bitcoin and grow bigger and better over time. While others will duplicate the technology and concept and build their own seasteads in various places around the world implementing their own concepts in the hopes that people will join them.

One of the keys to the concept is that your home/platform is mobile. If you don't like the way things are being run you just float to another seastead that you do like. It allows for competing governments in an incubator type of fashion where something much better than our current governments will arrise due to the free market force of choice.

One example given is that if the government of a seastead declared war with someone, they might be surprised to wake up in the morning to discover that all of their citizens floated away in middle of the night to form a new seastead.

I spent a week in Tahiti last month at a conference with some very intelligent people who are working to bring the first seastead to French Polynesia. The president welcomed us and they are very open to giving us a special economic zone in one of their protected harbors. The company that was formed, Blue Frontiers, should be taking investors soon. I spoke with their finance guy and told him to contact me as soon as they are ready for investors. I also sat down with their crypto workgroup and was humbled by the amount of talent that team brings with it. We definitely want people to be able to use Bitcoin to invest and record property ownership on the blockchain. The legislation should go through around January, then things will take off from there.


TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
copper member
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Clueless!
i can't believe you don't take profits. You haz balls. Or you're just crazy.

It is easier if you mined all your equip purchases back, as well as the btc remaining you
Have nothing in it. Indeed still mining ltc at 10k a month net. That too could all end for
Ltc scrypt-pow mining by dec. Indeed I almost sold equip in march at 1 btc per Titan at $4.15 ltc.

At $30 ltc now I'd be a crying.

So hell, ride it out. If the bubble dumps to 1k usd I'm still way ahead
Of last July at $450 btc.

The key is in my case I mined all my initial $$ back via equip purchases.

Thus imho it is easier to go for it vs someone with a $45k usd stake in
This and scratching head at triple profit.

Likely my view is just convuluted denial to hold. But seems to work
In my case.
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
Anyhow, sometimes we have to invest a bit and then just stay the course and just write off our principle.

I've pulled out ~13x my original investment in the last few weeks. And it only dented my principal.

Well, I didn't really pull it out. It's overwhelmingly on exchange in open buy orders. At profit, of course.

Sure as shit, there'll be a nasty overshoot correction. We're still not doubling per days, so not yet. 3x more? 10x more? Who knows? But I'll be ready to buy back in the aftermath.

If my exchanges don't cut'n'run in the meantime, that is. Calculated Spitballed risk.
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
I remember when the price shot up to 60 dollars when I had bought at 20, all my friends at work were saying I should sell. Calling me crazy for not selling as it went over 100.

I will diversify into Seasteading later this year as I see that as the next world changing technology that I believe in.

You know what I tell these people? "You didn't tell me when to buy, so don't tell me when to sell!"

Can you post something elaborating on why seasteading is a world changing technology? I fail to see the implications...
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
It is very demotivating for me to come into work when in one day I made more money than almost 2 years salary.

You should re-read what you just typed, because there's probably hundreds of people reading your post who have had the exact same feeling with some altcoin before, then they tried to ride the profits higher and they vaporized taking them back to square one.  The fact is, the second any type of life changing profits occur, the price always craters right after.  What % bitcoin can rise in a short duration before said action occurs is up for debate though.  Having any type of life changing profit occur and then not taking any profit off the table is the definition of insanity.

Profit in what? A currency that will likely go away in the next 10 years due to a debt bubble and more wars?

I stay at work mainly because it allows me to continue my high risk investment without worry of starving if it goes to zero. If I were to quit I would buy real estate or something that will sustain me for decades.

Real estate where? Cheap apartments and rent them out? I need ideas on how to sustain myself once I sell... I'm over the job route

When I think Real Estate I think of a house that will sustain me for the rest of my life. That means off grid, ability to grow at least meager food, or some means of survival. For me that could be a sailboat with solar panels and a fishing pole or a ranch in Texas.

Or a seastead  Wink
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
So in hindsight you all knew everything. Now it's a guessing game. Roll Eyes

Why will nobody admit they know nothing?

I didn't know.

Then again, I never thought much about it. Not like it was central to my existence or anything.



wait - what? What are we talking aboot?

Our success. I never saw it coming. Undecided

Oh. Well. That's different, then.

I thought we were talking about NLC.

The rise was pretty predictable. Not the specifics, mind you. But the mere occurrence was (and continues to be - going forward) inevitable.
legendary
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i can't believe you don't take profits. You haz balls. Or you're just crazy.
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