Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17399. (Read 26707056 times)
April 14, 2017, 07:46:24 AM
I find it curious to see the price so low in Bitstamp compared with other exchanges. I don´t know if it will have any relation to the fact that now on their page you can see highlighted the XRP / USD exchange or not.
April 14, 2017, 06:31:04 AM
its time for btc to stay stable no more pumps or dumps
O ye of much stupidity. 
April 14, 2017, 06:02:42 AM
what is the point of the micro dumps that last 1 or 2 days and have no long term effect 
1) could be a fake out?
2) Could be that some of the bigger bearwhales were not ready for the dump and only renegade bearwhales have participated in this particular dump?
3) Could be that the dump is not over?
We don't necessarily know until it plays out. I'm kind of a bit more inclined towards the second one... but I would not be surprised if the 3rd one were to play out...
Test dumps, just like little test pumps
April 14, 2017, 05:33:33 AM
return to four figures just shifted the issue onto the back burner?
Yup. Pushing problems away wont solve them. 
April 14, 2017, 05:29:13 AM
I haven't been following for the last week or so so I'm pleased to see the price is back up to nearly where it was even if it can't make up its mind which way it's going from here. So what happened with the fork? Has it been called off or has the return to four figures just shifted the issue onto the back burner?
April 14, 2017, 05:19:26 AM
Yeah so unusual to see Bitfinex pulling up and Bitstamp/BTC-e dragging down
You can't get dollars out at present. That totally warps the normal behaviour of an exchange. They're now going to add new currencies. For now there's not much point in paying attention to their price.
April 14, 2017, 05:01:19 AM
These days every exchange has its own price. Weird.
Yeah so unusual to see Bitfinex pulling up and Bitstamp/BTC-e dragging down
It had always been like this right?
Every exchange has a slightly different chart. None of them are the same because of big buy/sell orders.
April 14, 2017, 05:00:32 AM
These days every exchange has its own price. Weird.
Yeah, they are going all over the place. April 14, 2017, 04:56:24 AM
These days every exchange has its own price. Weird.
Yeah so unusual to see Bitfinex pulling up and Bitstamp/BTC-e dragging down
April 14, 2017, 04:31:19 AM
These days every exchange has its own price. Weird.
April 14, 2017, 03:21:48 AM
Time to fulfill Afrikoin's prophecy.
I'm already sold out and waiting for $750.
I'm already sold out and waiting for $750.
Not 100% on 750 but I'm in fiat unless it pops up convincingly through those walls. It's been a bit of a slow grind down so we'll see where it bottoms out. I hope Africoin is correct.
JJG thought I was a reckless gambler when stating I had gone all fiat @ 1200 USD. I see no reason to play bits of this and that and percentages. I go with momentum and and have no problem reassessing my position and changing if need be. Not panicking and buying back when it went higher than 1220 took some restraint but I was confident in the position.
Yes I also called them madmen but they burned me because they are stressed like hell lol. Anyway enjoy while they are still on this forum because they are left behind for good. Because muh YORK was wrong and $800 will come because we would all dump our coins to buy PEPECASH.
Anyway they can join the kwuckduck army.
Who's stressed, york?
You can't stand an affirmation 2 days and then you're contradicting yourself. This must be stressing, you're not the same person a week in a row. Go look for a psychiatrist, I've already told ya.
April 14, 2017, 02:48:20 AM
what is the point of the micro dumps that last 1 or 2 days and have no long term effect
1) could be a fake out?
2) Could be that some of the bigger bearwhales were not ready for the dump and only renegade bearwhales have participated in this particular dump?
3) Could be that the dump is not over?
We don't necessarily know until it plays out. I'm kind of a bit more inclined towards the second one... but I would not be surprised if the 3rd one were to play out...
April 14, 2017, 02:42:26 AM
what is the point of the micro dumps that last 1 or 2 days and have no long term effect
April 14, 2017, 02:26:17 AM
Recovery is looking good.
April 14, 2017, 01:28:24 AM
Finex already back at 1200.
April 13, 2017, 10:23:19 PM
The bitcoin price on OKcoin is sticking right to the previous price ranges with recovering 62% of previous high price as a top for now as 7370 CNY. Falling back only some, its been well above 6900 this month which would be a marker for some weakness.
USD is more volatile, I feel the relationship from China to USA on bitcoin is unequal with greater effect on the dollar side seen. Marking the range from ETF reject to the final low that followed March 25th matches many lows and highs such as the January high which recently also marked the low for 13th. With little happening in China price range, the butterfly effect saw more dollar side worry. Relatively both sides are quite bullish.
The high for the 12th was predictable and foreseen by a few no doubt, the reaction afterwards is more significant in measure of strength for bitcoin heading into the summer and future protocol news.
USD is more volatile, I feel the relationship from China to USA on bitcoin is unequal with greater effect on the dollar side seen. Marking the range from ETF reject to the final low that followed March 25th matches many lows and highs such as the January high which recently also marked the low for 13th. With little happening in China price range, the butterfly effect saw more dollar side worry. Relatively both sides are quite bullish.
The high for the 12th was predictable and foreseen by a few no doubt, the reaction afterwards is more significant in measure of strength for bitcoin heading into the summer and future protocol news.
April 13, 2017, 09:23:43 PM
Are you aware that you are trying to rationalise against something that you are ALMOST doing? (there's not much difference between 90% and 100%).
I don't know if the price will go up or down.... just making a point about something I find a bit incoherent.
I don't know if the price will go up or down.... just making a point about something I find a bit incoherent.
Yes, we already went over this several times in our earlier discussion of the topic.
I thought that the punchline was that we disagree.
I already stated my reasons for disagreeing with you, and you already provided your reasons for disagreeing with me... but apparently, you want to continue to discuss the matter.
You already know from where I am coming from. Whether you agree or not or understand, I already told you that I do not care because I am going to continue to make my various assertions regarding the benefits of incrementalism and the folly of balls to the walls strategies.
Further more, you describe my system as 90 to 95% (as compared with 100%) - and that is a bit of bullshit, because we are not talking about me being 90-95% fiat, we are talking about bitcoin, and sliverfuture is going 0% bitcoin because he wants to gamble. There's a pretty big fucking difference between 95% and 0%, no? And, you are saying that it doesn't matter which one we are talking about .. blah blah blah.. It does matter, and likely plays out considerably different in practice too (not just theory).
I thought that when I copy pasted the exact reply that started our previous discussion you would get the joke
I had not noticed the copy and paste, and so you are correct, that does make your response more funny.
However, I think that the substance of our disagreement is a bit too serious to treat as a joking matter.
Sure we can joke about the foolishness of bears and we can joke about the foolishness of a variety of topics in this thread including the extent to which we may be conclude that one outcome is more likely than another outcome and even betting wrongly on outcomes.
In the end, even though we may agree on several points, we still see this hedging matter somewhat differently, and it is not just a semantics difference - its a whole mindset difference.
I mean, didn't you even read my point about the difference between 0% and 92%.. that is a whole hell-of-a-lot bigger of a difference than you are inaccurately making it out to be (you say a difference between 90% and 100% - but the difference is much greater than that - even 0% and 85% is a BIG FUCKING difference.
Anyway, why don't you just recognize that you are gambling as we all are? System, no system.... it's all bets on one or other direction... and anything in the middle is just hedging on our main bet.
That said, its not like casino gambling... We are all here because we know the worst case is that our "investment" can go to cero but, in the best case, it has a big probability to be multiplied several times.
That said, its not like casino gambling... We are all here because we know the worst case is that our "investment" can go to cero but, in the best case, it has a big probability to be multiplied several times.
More or less we agree about the upside possibilities of bitcoin being great, and if you do not engage in margin trading, then you can only lose as much as you buy... but if you engage in margin trading or leveraging, then that seems to be another story.
April 13, 2017, 08:39:23 PM
its time for btc to stay stable no more pumps or dumps
You're about two years too late. If you hadn't noticed it's back to shedding or gaining $50-100 whenever it feels like it.
April 13, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
I see dead walls.
April 13, 2017, 08:36:55 PM
its time for btc to stay stable no more pumps or dumps
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