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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17623. (Read 26713289 times)

legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
Fiat baghodlers piling up on the sidelines ... looks like ETF 'announcement' date and dip anticipation was actually holding the price back.

Now we got greedy shorts (probably SEC insiders) who piled on at $1350 manipulated high starting to sweat too ... should be fun watching that particular gas oven blow-up. Plenty of fuel to keep this thing burning.
hero member
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The ETF rejection was a good thing and I think thats why the price is rising. I was worried that coins would be eaten up by hedge funds and price heavily manipulated up and down on a wildly insane level due to mass manipulation by the largest player in the Bitcoin sector.

Yes ETF rejection was a good thing because it left many people salivating at the mouth to buy Bitcoins!
legendary
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i'm feeling bearish again... ( selling coins will do that to you )

delusional bulls are done chasing their magical unicorn.
time for reality to set in, NO ETF == billions are not going to pour into bitcoin, NO ETF == No reason to hodl.

Uptrend we're going to see until the end of the year will be nothing you've seen yet. Everyone that is selling now is just a fool.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
[...]

Oh wow, I never thought about how many pages of this thread I must have read. I just know that I've been doing my best to get caught up almost every day since early 2013. Sometimes there was just too much going on, but for the most part I would spend 4-6 hours a day minimum on bitcoin in general, and this was a BIG part of that especially during 2013-2015.

Speaking of old times, I miss Aminorex and his monkey, and Adam giving beer tips. Hope they're doin ok. Monkey would probably be bullish as hell right now  Smiley

Oh and what ever happened to that guy with a "castle" and the cigars ?  Huh retpeelia or something  Cheesy

Also, does anyone else get the feeling $1250+ may happen today? lol





He is still here... that's him! You can find him in a few hours starting spam-posting about your "beer tips"! Cheesy Cheesy


Really? He doesn't feel like Adam to me.. How can you be so sure?


Those of us who frequent this thread have already confirmed that the potleaf is the same loveable goofball, who has quasi-unwillingly separated from his previous existence as a penquin.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
It's not according to coinmarketcap, which shows bitFlyer's BTC/JPY market as the fourth biggest Bitcoin market. If you disregard poloniex's DASH/BTC and ETH/BTC msarkets it's in second place for volume.

https://bitflyer.jp/en/commission

Zero fees.

If I hosted a zero fee exchange in my grandmother's pussy, it does not mean the population of my grandmother's pussy has adopted Bitcoin en masse.

It's exactly the same but even more blatant than China. Once fees are in place it'll go down to a piffling trickle. No one uses it in Japan.

Look at you.


Denigrating grannie, just to make a point about fees and bitcoin. 

Couldn't you come up with a little better example to make your point?

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

He's been denigrating granny for years without bothering using it to make a point.

I just shit on the kitchen table and let grandma clear it up when she comes to visit.

Hahahahahaha...


At least now, he is kind of attempting to make a point.   Cheesy
sr. member
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A Blockchain Mobile Operator With Token Rewards
i'm feeling bearish again... ( selling coins will do that to you )

delusional bulls are done chasing their magical unicorn.
time for reality to set in, NO ETF == billions are not going to pour into bitcoin, NO ETF == No reason to hodl.

or,  no ETF until prices are much higher...which means you want to buy now (or well before)  there will ever be an ETF

well fuck.
you logic is undeniable
No ETF now, means we are still buying pre ETF coins.
full member
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BTC HODLer
[...]

Oh wow, I never thought about how many pages of this thread I must have read. I just know that I've been doing my best to get caught up almost every day since early 2013. Sometimes there was just too much going on, but for the most part I would spend 4-6 hours a day minimum on bitcoin in general, and this was a BIG part of that especially during 2013-2015.

Speaking of old times, I miss Aminorex and his monkey, and Adam giving beer tips. Hope they're doin ok. Monkey would probably be bullish as hell right now  Smiley

Oh and what ever happened to that guy with a "castle" and the cigars ?  Huh retpeelia or something  Cheesy

Also, does anyone else get the feeling $1250+ may happen today? lol





He is still here... that's him! You can find him in a few hours starting spam-posting about your "beer tips"! Cheesy Cheesy


Really? He doesn't feel like Adam to me.. How can you be so sure?
full member
Activity: 219
Merit: 100
i'm feeling bearish again... ( selling coins will do that to you )

delusional bulls are done chasing their magical unicorn.
time for reality to set in, NO ETF == billions are not going to pour into bitcoin, NO ETF == No reason to hodl.

or,  no ETF until prices are much higher...which means you want to buy now (or well before)  there will ever be an ETF
sr. member
Activity: 812
Merit: 250
A Blockchain Mobile Operator With Token Rewards
i'm feeling bearish again... ( selling coins will do that to you )

delusional bulls are done chasing their magical unicorn.
time for reality to set in, NO ETF == billions are not going to pour into bitcoin, NO ETF == No reason to hodl.
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 2846
It's not according to coinmarketcap, which shows bitFlyer's BTC/JPY market as the fourth biggest Bitcoin market. If you disregard poloniex's DASH/BTC and ETH/BTC msarkets it's in second place for volume.

https://bitflyer.jp/en/commission

Zero fees.

If I hosted a zero fee exchange in my grandmother's pussy, it does not mean the population of my grandmother's pussy has adopted Bitcoin en masse.

It's exactly the same but even more blatant than China. Once fees are in place it'll go down to a piffling trickle. No one uses it in Japan.

Look at you.


Denigrating grannie, just to make a point about fees and bitcoin. 

Couldn't you come up with a little better example to make your point?

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

He's been denigrating granny for years without bothering using it to make a point.

I just shit on the kitchen table and let grandma clear it up when she comes to visit.
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
But, but, but why is price going up? SEC rejected Bitcoin! It must vanish and disappear in matter of days!

Perhaps all the outsiders have figured out that there will not be an ETF to make it easy for them, and are buying in directly.

Yeah... seems to quick for that.
legendary
Activity: 3962
Merit: 11519
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
It's not according to coinmarketcap, which shows bitFlyer's BTC/JPY market as the fourth biggest Bitcoin market. If you disregard poloniex's DASH/BTC and ETH/BTC msarkets it's in second place for volume.

https://bitflyer.jp/en/commission

Zero fees.

If I hosted a zero fee exchange in my grandmother's pussy, it does not mean the population of my grandmother's pussy has adopted Bitcoin en masse.

It's exactly the same but even more blatant than China. Once fees are in place it'll go down to a piffling trickle. No one uses it in Japan.

Look at you.


Denigrating grannie, just to make a point about fees and bitcoin. 

Couldn't you come up with a little better example to make your point?

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
legendary
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BTC or BUST
start watching this market, its the new leader

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/coincheckJPY#rg10ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

is there a fundamental flaw with the JPY which causes it to crumble when compared to bitcoin?

Anyone here use this exchange?


I looked for users in the Japanese language section that use coincheck, but there isn't a Japanese section. Well I couldn't find one.

There should be one considering Satoshi's a Japanese name.


They are open to US users..

You can deposit up to $500 per day, WD up to $300 per day, and use up to 3X leverage both directions with no identity verification..
It will only accept JPY as margin collateral and the lending rate is .05% per day..

With identity verification you can use up to 5X leverage and it seems to lift deposit/WD limits..

I may give it a shot soon...

What sucks is the charts only go down to 5 minute candles and is not with bitcoinwisdom or tradingview..  

WD fees are 50k sats, very reasonable..
legendary
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Merit: 3056
Welt Am Draht
It's not according to coinmarketcap, which shows bitFlyer's BTC/JPY market as the fourth biggest Bitcoin market. If you disregard poloniex's DASH/BTC and ETH/BTC msarkets it's in second place for volume.

https://bitflyer.jp/en/commission

Zero fees.

If I hosted a zero fee exchange in my grandmother's pussy, it does not mean the population of my grandmother's pussy has adopted Bitcoin en masse.

It's exactly the same but even more blatant than China. Once fees are in place it'll go down to a piffling trickle. No one uses it in Japan.
full member
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without considering manipulation

this rise indicate 1 of 2 things

1) all the money on the sidelines waiting for an ETF approval, is pilling in because... "well i'm not going to send the money back to my bank account, plus looks like cheap coins to me!"

2) Trump has entered into a BTC bidding war with India and Japan <- ( magical unicorn )



ok that first one is crazy, dayum
legendary
Activity: 2772
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I looked for users in the Japanese language section that use coincheck, but there isn't a Japanese section. Well I couldn't find one.

There should be one considering Satoshi's a Japanese name.


Zero fee = irrelevant. And they'll all be foreign traders who can't get onto the Chinese exchanges any more. As far as I can tell Japan is a crypto desert.

https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins/JPY/BTC

This does not scream huge interest to me. This week's volume was, er, 28 BTC. So that's 1 BTC per 5 million people.

It's not according to coinmarketcap, which shows bitFlyer's BTC/JPY market as the fourth biggest Bitcoin market. If you disregard poloniex's DASH/BTC and ETH/BTC msarkets it's in second place for volume.

edit

You're right, bitFlyer doesn't appear to charge fees for BTC/JPY trading. That volume's bullshit. Why hasn't coinmarketcap put it in the no fees section marked with an asterisk?


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets





edit2

It charges fees for "Bitcoin Easy Exchange" and "Lightning Spot" but there's no fees for "Bitcoin Market" and "Lightning FX". WTF does that mean? What volumes do those various markets have, and does coinmarketcap's volume include them all?

legendary
Activity: 2604
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Welt Am Draht
I looked for users in the Japanese language section that use coincheck, but there isn't a Japanese section. Well I couldn't find one.

There should be one considering Satoshi's a Japanese name.


Zero fee = irrelevant. And they'll all be foreign traders who can't get onto the Chinese exchanges any more. As far as I can tell Japan is a crypto desert.

https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins/JPY/BTC

This does not scream huge interest to me. This week's volume was, er, 28 BTC. So that's 1 BTC per 5 million people.
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 2846
start watching this market, its the new leader

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/coincheckJPY#rg10ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

is there a fundamental flaw with the JPY which causes it to crumble when compared to bitcoin?

Anyone here use this exchange?


I looked for users in the Japanese language section that use coincheck, but there isn't a Japanese section. Well I couldn't find one.

There should be one considering Satoshi's a Japanese name.
sr. member
Activity: 812
Merit: 250
A Blockchain Mobile Operator With Token Rewards
BTC/JPY is pushing higher still!

if you subscribe to the idea that  no ETF is more bullish then ETF
and you look at the charts and consider other bullish fundamentals
one can only conclude we will hit a new ATH very soon.
and that we are set to go MUCH higher, 1800 mid term, 3000 long term



legendary
Activity: 3962
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
The ETF rejection was a good thing and I think thats why the price is rising. I was worried that coins would be eaten up by hedge funds and price heavily manipulated up and down on a wildly insane level due to mass manipulation by the largest player in the Bitcoin sector.

I agree. 

As you suggest, such denial of the ETF may have been a blessing in disguise.
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