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legendary
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such as your misappropriation of anti-fragile

Again, my response to that:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18053760

and my reply to the bogus reddit chart some guy posted that lies about all traits of bitcoin in order to try and pump and dump it lol:



You posted a reddit propaganda chart that flat out lies and claims bitcoin is fungible, not to mention the part about "secure", "durable" and "decentralized" are not even a given.  And how does the rough consensus attack play into scarcity?  That chart was clearly created solely to try and pump and dump bitcoin and not for any type of education.  

Someone is also probably going to claim "you can't destroy bitcoin with a hammer so it's durable!".  Bitcoin requires a positive energy input to exist at all.  How is that durable?  It's essentially a living organism and all living things die.  Bitcoin is a screen door standing in the way of the truck known as entropy to be run over and scattered to the wind, while things like gold are more entropy resistant (but not proof).  And that is why one is money and one is only a currency.  Money is supposed to be boring and not mutate into something else or cease to exist at random.
legendary
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I'm disappointed.  Jbreher is like the smartest of you apes and this was a pretty feeble attempt at trying to portray bitcoin as having traits of money equal or better than metals:

The fact that bitcoin can be so called "upgraded", which really just means changed, means it's not anti-fragile by default.  
On this point, you minsunderstand the definition of anti-fragile. By definition, in order to be anti-fragile, a thing must be able to evolve.

No, it does not.  Money is supposed to be boring - it's not supposed to "evolve" ...

Jeebus - now you're copy-pasting across subs? OK, I'll play along, and copy-paste my reply from where it belongs over to here where you insisted on draging it:

Stay on point. I did not say 'money needs to be able to evolve', I said that the definition of 'anti-fragile' necessarily is imbued with the ability to evolve.

You can claim that something needs to be unchanging if you want. While I disagree with you on this point, it is not a conversation I wish to carry out with you. You have a lot of monetary ideas which I think are just plain wrong, but they are axiomatic to you, and I don't care to tilt against that windmill.

However, when you appropriate a defined term, and claim a use for it exactly opposite of its accepted definition -- such as your misappropriation of anti-fragile -- you can expect to get called out on it.

the most amazing thing about bitcoin is you can build on top of it, create all manner of apps, applications, programming to incorporate a secure ledger into financial and business operations. thus ensuring bitcoin does evolve yet remains the same

in essence there is no need for a strongly tested financial network to evolve but yet can evolve with external systems

this is what i love about bitcoin


legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
I'm disappointed.  Jbreher is like the smartest of you apes and this was a pretty feeble attempt at trying to portray bitcoin as having traits of money equal or better than metals:

The fact that bitcoin can be so called "upgraded", which really just means changed, means it's not anti-fragile by default.  
On this point, you minsunderstand the definition of anti-fragile. By definition, in order to be anti-fragile, a thing must be able to evolve.

No, it does not.  Money is supposed to be boring - it's not supposed to "evolve" ...

Jeebus - now you're copy-pasting across subs? OK, I'll play along, and copy-paste my reply from where it belongs over to here where you insisted on dragging it:

Stay on point. I did not say 'money needs to be able to evolve', I said that the definition of 'anti-fragile' necessarily is imbued with the ability to evolve.

You can claim that something needs to be unchanging if you want. While I disagree with you on this point, it is not a conversation I wish to carry out with you. You have a lot of monetary ideas which I think are just plain wrong, but they are axiomatic to you, and I don't care to tilt against that windmill.

However, when you appropriate a defined term, and claim a use for it exactly opposite of its accepted definition -- such as your misappropriation of anti-fragile -- you can expect to get called out on it.
legendary
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Pretty interesting article on what the bankers have been attempting over the last 45 years.  Apparently they've spent this entire time trying to demonetize gold and force SDR notes on people while forbidding other CBs from purchasing gold at all, yet China and Russian CBs are both buying it by the boatload now.  They've been working on trying to force this completely top down controlled "cashless" monetary system devoid of real money longer than people imagine.  If you attempt to buy or use gold as a CB, you become an enemy of the Zionist monetary regime run by the IMF and BIS, and they use their military arm (the Zionist occupied United States) to attack you:



just read an article about all that

no wonder Nixon was hammered

always follow the money, who gets hurt when their profits tumble and the laws change to suit them, never for the public


tin foil hat conspiracy

only when solar cells were profitable to big industry do we see emission schemes and carbon tax. When we stop the destruction of land and water, which is the most critical part to clean air, our environment will recover (is the climate change agenda to support big industry first under the guise of clean energy and climate change?)

how does one know these days

this can be applied to bitcoin as well, banks foresee the loss of profit from bitcoin and attack it with laws under the guise of terrorism

you could apply this approach to all democratic propaganda thrown at the public under the guise of doing what is right for the public. its not always true but in many cases it does benefit banks and big industry, you may find a disgusting tale of ensuring the public is afflicted to extort their wealth


full member
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How does it feel like to be part of History in the making? Seeing the dreams of 2011 come true is priceless.
1 bitcoin will always be worth ONE bitcoin

If you know what I mean Wink


If 11.5 million bitcoin are sent to 1EatBitcoinForBreakfastYumYum then 1 bitcoin is worth 2 bitcoin because supply was cut in half. Wink Wink
legendary
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Pretty interesting article on what the bankers have been attempting over the last 45 years.  Apparently they've spent this entire time trying to demonetize gold and force SDR notes on people while forbidding other CBs from purchasing gold at all, yet China and Russian CBs are both buying it by the boatload now.  They've been working on trying to force this completely top down controlled "cashless" monetary system devoid of real money longer than people imagine.  If you attempt to buy or use gold as a CB, you become an enemy of the Zionist monetary regime run by the IMF and BIS, and they use their military arm (the Zionist occupied United States) to attack you:



legendary
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How does it feel like to be part of History in the making? Seeing the dreams of 2011 come true is priceless.
1 bitcoin will always be worth ONE bitcoin

If you know what I mean Wink
hero member
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Bitcoin was on Bloomberg live TV about 15 minutes ago, interviewing some guy about the ETF.

They weren't sure if the Winklevoss twins would use their own coin or have to buy more on the open market.

Whatever the case, they said there's going to be a huge run on Bitcoin in the event the SEC passes.  Very bullish.

Hope they archive it soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

B...but weren't we told yesterday that all media is evil and they just ridicule Bitcoin and say its all a big hoax?  Huh


Just jokin...  Grin

Here's another choice one from Bloomberg.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/bitcoin-is-now-worth-more-than-gold

Notice the main title:
"Bitcoin Soars to a Record High"

Sounds really positive for a change, right?

Then looks what slaps in the face you next.  The subtitle:
"How long can this rally last? After a peak in 2013, bitcoin fell 53 percent."

They make sure to pepper the negatives right away, and throughout the articles. They want to make sure Average Joe is scared shitless to stay away. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

People don't realize that Bitcoin is not just the Next Big Thing. (Aka a fad that will sooner or later die off)

It is the Forever Big Thing.  That will keep on getting bigger.



Don't worry in the end the truth will always be outed.
In other words no matter how much the press/media try to influence the general public, in the end when everyone is boarding the train they will be the first to say it is the best thing since sliced bread
legendary
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Bitcoin was on Bloomberg live TV about 15 minutes ago, interviewing some guy about the ETF.

They weren't sure if the Winklevoss twins would use their own coin or have to buy more on the open market.

Whatever the case, they said there's going to be a huge run on Bitcoin in the event the SEC passes.  Very bullish.

Hope they archive it soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

B...but weren't we told yesterday that all media is evil and they just ridicule Bitcoin and say its all a big hoax?  Huh




Just jokin...  Grin

Here's another choice one from Bloomberg.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/bitcoin-is-now-worth-more-than-gold

Notice the main title:
"Bitcoin Soars to a Record High"

Sounds really positive for a change, right?

Then looks what slaps in the face you next.  The subtitle:
"How long can this rally last? After a peak in 2013, bitcoin fell 53 percent."

They make sure to pepper the negatives right away, and throughout the articles. They want to make sure Average Joe is scared shitless to stay away. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

People don't realize that Bitcoin is not just the Next Big Thing. (Aka a fad that will sooner or later die off)

It is the Forever Big Thing.  That will keep on getting bigger.
hero member
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Bitcoin was on Bloomberg live TV about 15 minutes ago, interviewing some guy about the ETF.

They weren't sure if the Winklevoss twins would use their own coin or have to buy more on the open market.

Whatever the case, they said there's going to be a huge run on Bitcoin in the event the SEC passes.  Very bullish.

Hope they archive it soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

B...but weren't we told yesterday that all media is evil and they just ridicule Bitcoin and say its all a big hoax?  Huh




Just jokin...  Grin
I think there should be a lesson to be learned about the influence of what the media has on the misinformed before the ETF resultant is unveiled in 7 days from now March 10-11th midnight sharp. Grin

Just take the public allowed to buy shares in SnapChat yesterday.
http://business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/as-snap-co-founders-see-3-2-billion-gain-on-first-day-trading-high-school-makes-24m-on-15k-investment?__lsa=9696-fae7
Yet the media is saying they coped instagram.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/snapchat-instagram-whos-copying-951224

What does snapchat 20 something's multimillionaire creators care about that since they are getting paid now? Lips sealed

The media is like crack for those misinformed.
They will just gobble that all up and go where the money is. Always. Wink
legendary
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notorious shrimp!
Bitcoin was on Bloomberg live TV about 15 minutes ago, interviewing some guy about the ETF.

They weren't sure if the Winklevoss twins would use their own coin or have to buy more on the open market.

Whatever the case, they said there's going to be a huge run on Bitcoin in the event the SEC passes.  Very bullish.

Hope they archive it soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

YES:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-03-03/place-your-bet-on-whether-the-sec-approves-a-bitcoin-etf

ahahahahaha: "i think that 50/50 is probably a pretty good guess"

in terms: "I HAVE NO IDEA"

what an dumbass...
hero member
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Bear with me
Bitcoin was on Bloomberg live TV about 15 minutes ago, interviewing some guy about the ETF.

They weren't sure if the Winklevoss twins would use their own coin or have to buy more on the open market.

Whatever the case, they said there's going to be a huge run on Bitcoin in the event the SEC passes.  Very bullish.

Hope they archive it soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

YES:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-03-03/place-your-bet-on-whether-the-sec-approves-a-bitcoin-etf
legendary
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legendary
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Terminated.
Same with Dutch papers, they keep warning uss from all those ''criminals'' using Bitcoin  Undecided.
That is bullshit and this 'China' fueling the price rise is also pure bullshit. Looks like the mass media have completely lost it and will spew up any kind of fake stupidity.
Irony: http://www.activistpost.com/2017/03/megabank-caught-laundering-terrorists-drug-cartels-feds-keeping-secret.html

Btw Lauda, youre not a mod anymore, how is that possible? I always felt save under youre protection.
The less question you ask around here, the better.  Cheesy

-snip-
All is well in Bitcoinland... currently $1268USD at Bitcoinaverage.

It's almost hard to believe that a couple of days ago we were worrying about things like ATHs and gold ounce parity. Now we take them for granted.

Onward and upward. Go Bitcoin go.
Jimbo we both know that even though we want this rocket to fly high, for it to be healthy it has to hover around the same 'height' for a while. As said I'd like it to be a tad above $1250 for a few days at least.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
legendary
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Breaking gold parity has got us an article in the BBC - that's mainstream!!  They still want to make bitcoin sound really scary though...

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39149475

The morning news show on CNBC had BTC passing Gold on the bottom 📺 screen
News ticker during the show. Damn near food down the wind pipe at breakfast, when I read that!

So the way I see it, as a "Kool Aid drinking BTC Fanatic" is this way

ETF shot down this week, cheap $900 to $1000 coin briefly. I say briefly, because only
imho 30% of us think it will pass. Thus buffered into price imho. Even with the pump.
Thus quick rebound.

Or

ETF beats odds and is accepted. It all then goes moon shot nuts and folk buy in
fast. 2k  btc in a week.

I need to buy in quick on either.

Or so I think 💭

It's kind of a win-win either way.

Another thought, so what happens to all those wealthy long investors waiting for COIN ETF approval if it's a no-go? You think they are going to just take their ball and go home? My bet is they race for OTC purchases anyway.  The WinkleVii can sell to them directly if they wish (a big IF). So win.
copper member
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Clueless!
Breaking gold parity has got us an article in the BBC - that's mainstream!!  They still want to make bitcoin sound really scary though...

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39149475

The morning news show on CNBC had BTC passing Gold on the bottom 📺 screen
News ticker during the show. Damn near food down the wind pipe at breakfast, when I read that!

So the way I see it, as a "Kool Aid drinking BTC Fanatic" is this way

ETF shot down this week, cheap $900 to $1000 coin briefly. I say briefly, because only
imho 30% of us think it will pass. Thus buffered into price imho. Even with the pump.
Thus quick rebound.

Or

ETF beats odds and is accepted. It all then goes moon shot nuts and folk buy in
fast. 2k  btc in a week.

I need to buy in quick on either.

Or so I think 💭

ImI
legendary
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Bitcoin was on Bloomberg live TV about 15 minutes ago, interviewing some guy about the ETF.

They weren't sure if the Winklevoss twins would use their own coin or have to buy more on the open market.

Whatever the case, they said there's going to be a huge run on Bitcoin in the event the SEC passes.  Very bullish.

Hope they archive it soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

B...but weren't we told yesterday that all media is evil and they just ridicule Bitcoin and say its all a big hoax?  Huh




Just jokin...  Grin
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