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If 'going the xtra mile' means producing a private key that actually proves access to those early coinbase outputs, then he would need a helluva lot of years to come up with it. Like the lifetime of the universe.

This is what I meant. People don't actually understand what crypto can do.
Math is solid. No opinions necessary. Smiley


nope. if someone had the private key the only thing that means is that they have satoshi's private key. they could've found it, been sent it, bought it, tortured it out of him. anyone on the planet could do that.

that doesn't prove you're satoshi by any means.

by extra mile i mean providing research and evidence you'd been looking into bitcoin's creation for years before.

Faking the kind of 'evidence' you're looking for is far easier than faking private keys.

Sure, the key could have been tortured out of him. Systems always surround the crypto guarantees and that environment doesn't have the same guarantees.
This being a trading thread and all means you'd prolly be more interested in the person who had the keys in that case, rather than if that person wrote the original bitcoin code. Smiley

If you were craig wright and you had those keys (you tortured satoshi), wouldn't you use them to prove that you had access to the coinbase outputs? After all, you're trying to prove you are the man.
CW made no such attempt ... I'm ignoring the ridiculously contrived meeting in a dark room. That was all just theater.

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it's hard for me to determine the relevancy of Bitstamp. Stamp was the exchange that screamed "dump time," given the ascending wedge. And yet, the big mainland exchanges in fact dumped.

I doubt that one exchange is controlling anything, even if there was one exchange that lead a specific price action.

The fact of the matter remains that once Stamp dumped, others were willing to follow, rather than to just leave Stamp out there on its own.

In other words, the other exchanges were prepared for such a dump... so it did not really matter that much which of the exchanges started it out, whether it was Stamp or some other exchange, and by the time the dump began to happen, the whole market was more or less ready for such a simultaneous dump.

A question now remains about whether such dump is over or do we have more dumping coming in the coming hours, days or week?  Otherwise, we could prepare for some additional upwards movement.

Personally, I sense that, absent some fairly significant news or FUD, even if some additional dumping occurs, it's going to be quite difficult to bring BTC prices below $650 and there is likely going to be additional support in the $680 range that needs to be overcome to get us into the mid-$600s in the first place....never say never, but there is likely decent incentives for dumping to force the closing of some longs, if such forcing is possible.
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If 'going the xtra mile' means producing a private key that actually proves access to those early coinbase outputs, then he would need a helluva lot of years to come up with it. Like the lifetime of the universe.

This is what I meant. People don't actually understand what crypto can do.
Math is solid. No opinions necessary. Smiley


nope. if someone had the private key the only thing that means is that they have satoshi's private key. they could've found it, been sent it, bought it, tortured it out of him. anyone on the planet could do that.

that doesn't prove you're satoshi by any means.

by extra mile i mean providing research and evidence you'd been looking into bitcoin's creation for years before.
legendary
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715 support on stamp already broke today so doing so again would be np
That would make me happy - price is too high for me at the minute - could do with the price dropping to around 670 which would push up a lot of alt prices.
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But I'm surprised at how much attention he got. Anyone who used cryptography like ... ever ... knew there were guaranteed ways for him to prove he was satoshi (ar at least that he owned a bunch of early coinbases).

i don't think there's any way to prove you're satoshi any more. someone else could control whatever keys, most of his accounts have been cracked anyway and whoever really wanted to go the extra mile has had years to come up with their 'evidence'.

If 'going the xtra mile' means producing a private key that actually proves access to those early coinbase outputs, then he would need a helluva lot of years to come up with it. Like the lifetime of the universe.

This is what I meant. People don't actually understand what crypto can do.
Math is solid. No opinions necessary. Smiley
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715 support on stamp already broke today so doing so again would be np
legendary
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But I'm surprised at how much attention he got. Anyone who used cryptography like ... ever ... knew there were guaranteed ways for him to prove he was satoshi (ar at least that he owned a bunch of early coinbases).

i don't think there's any way to prove you're satoshi any more. someone else could control whatever keys, most of his accounts have been cracked anyway and whoever really wanted to go the extra mile has had years to come up with their 'evidence'.
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
smoked the private keys.

Bro, when they say "paper" wallet, they don't mean Zigzag.  Grin
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Craig Wright have more than 1 million BTC for dump so do not worry.

sure he does. i have 1 million too but i got bored of them so smoked the private keys.

More fun facts. CSW was claiming that he owned one of the world's largest supercomputers. Indeed, in my mind, this was a strong piece of evidence supporting his claim. It was even listed on the Top 500 list at # 17:

As late as May 4 of this year, it was listed:
However, the next update of 2016 May 07 dropped the listing:

I've not yet gotten the backstory on this. Of course, I just started looking -- as a background activity -- a couple of days ago. In the meantime, it is just one more piece of evidence against his claim.

'Tis a shame. I thought he'd make an about ideal Satoshi. Would have been a great legend. About what we deserve.  Smiley

He was interesting alright. It's not often you find a person with both theoretical technical skills and conman skills mixed together.
So from that point of view I guess some investigation is worth doing out of interest.

But I'm surprised at how much attention he got. Anyone who used cryptography like ... ever ... knew there were guaranteed ways for him to prove he was satoshi (ar at least that he owned a bunch of early coinbases).
It looks like the density of people who actually know what crypto can do is much lower than I thought.
I've been using pgp for 25 years so it's entirely possible I'm in my own bubble Smiley
It was an eye opener for me tho ...


legendary
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Craig Wright have more than 1 million BTC for dump so do not worry.

sure he does. i have 1 million too but i got bored of them so smoked the private keys.

More fun facts. CSW was claiming that he owned one of the world's largest supercomputers. Indeed, in my mind, this was a strong piece of evidence supporting his claim. It was even listed on the Top 500 list at # 17:

17   Tulip Trading
Australia   C01N - SGI ICE X/SuperBlade SBI-7127RG-E, Intel Xeon E5-2695v2 12C 2.4GHz, Infiniband FDR, NDIVA M2090/Intel Xeon Phi 7120P
Supermicro   265,440   3,521.0   4,470.4   4,500

As late as May 4 of this year, it was listed:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160504043035/http://www.top500.org/list/2015/11

However, the next update of 2016 May 07 dropped the listing:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160507054451/http://www.top500.org/list/2015/11/?

I've not yet gotten the backstory on this. Of course, I just started looking -- as a background activity -- a couple of days ago. In the meantime, it is just one more piece of evidence against his claim.

'Tis a shame. I thought he'd make an about ideal Satoshi. Would have been a great legend. About what we deserve.  Smiley
hero member
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Craig Wright have more than 1 million BTC for dump so do not worry.

sure he does. i have 1 million too but i got bored of them so smoked the private keys.

legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
So do we have one of those triangle things moving in around 2 weeks or so for the big jump?
hero member
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Big dumps about to happen in aprox 3-4 hours 680 incoming
legendary
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Craig Wright have more than 1 million BTC for dump so do not worry.

sure he does. i have 1 million too but i got bored of them so smoked the private keys.
hv_
legendary
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Clean Code and Scale
Lovely dumps, but my bids are a bit lower, so please continue... Wink

Nice. sb is doing wellfare for India! Maybe the Gates foundation?

Yeah, that s humanity!
hero member
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I feel strongly that this may be the last time btc gets anywhere near sub-700 ever again.

Buy the dip. No, really.

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Lovely dumps, but my bids are a bit lower, so please continue... Wink

Craig Wright have more than 1 million BTC for dump so do not worry.

Total bullshit! He failed to prove he had 1 million BTC.



I disagree.
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We Have find the Resistance, Sir ...



Why the hell do u need SAR bro...

Got trailing stops in this range? ROFLMAO Cheesy
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Just got back from buying all I could afford on a Sunday... half a coin.

Looks like I may have caught the bottom.

At times like this I get nostalgic for when I could take $500 bucks and go buy 5 coins but as I said on the last buyable dip, half a coin is better than no coins at all.
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