Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 18230. (Read 26610526 times)

You are correct, the second would have likely been a better catch all.

Sure those kinds of described actions can be helpful in expanding the bitcoin space and useage, yet each person has to decide for himself the extent to which he wants to buy, sell or otherwise be involved in bitcoin. 

If you learn about bitcoin, and you believe that it is a good thing, then at minimum you should attempt to allocate a reasonable amount of bitcoin for yourself 1% to 10% of your asset investment allocated towards bitcoin could be reasonable depending upon the level of your bullishness, and your other personal financial circumstances.

In essence, I would suggest that you establish a comfortable position towards yourself, lead by example, and then allow others to chose the level to which they want to get involved.  For the most part, I would not recommend attempting to proselytize others, but that is just me.  If they are receptive to learn about bitcoin and to hear about your investments, then fine, no problem sharing information with them.  On the other hand, I have no problem with people who are out there and proselytizing because some of those kinds of folks are going to exist in any kind of wide spread adoption.

I think Adam was conservative with the USD to look more serious... he would have probably named it BTC vs All resources of planet Earth & SolarSistem.Co ...

Yes you are both right. According to CoinGecko GDAX's the leading exchange for the BTC/USD
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin/trading_exchanges

My bad, it happens

Finally you said something useful I can comment on...

And to be more blunt... Investing can be achieved in multiple ways! For example the most important 2 things you can do (or 3 depending how you view it) are to convince others to get involved and to create a shortage or a void that sucks everything around it, drawing from the exchanges and convincing it in to cold storage... or enhancing that void by creating your own business by accepting mostly bitcoin for your services or product(s) and having all the excess in to a cold storage that would create the same effect. But now the problem is divided in 2 or 3 things... from who you should get those coins? For example if you take them from someone off-exchange, you might have no immediate impact. So basically you would need to draw and suck dry from the desperate to create that shortage/void/demand. Take from someone who cannot live without bitcoin. 

Indeed, there is a terrible wastefulness in a human that chooses the life of a mosquito.

Because all paid trolls appear en mass during bear markets (to supposedly help the shorters, who are their friends) and completely disappear during bull runs (because no one would care anymore). Also, I'm pretty sure that many bear trolls on this sub also have bull shill accounts, and just switch sides whenever it is convenient for them to do so.  It's pretty easy to spot them in their writing style and tone, not to mention you can see which accounts suddenly appear or practically disappear during which periods.

Which is why I don't really trust the sincerity of anyone that is too overly vocal (either overly bullish or overly bearish) on this subforum.  At all.

noticed the walls are getting bigger and bigger



recent news article confirms bitcoin has the winning formula for future fintech

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/business/article/2020094/fintech-next-frontier-hong-kongs-battle-singapore

i am so bullish

He stopped posting here after Bitcoin broke above $450 and went to $800. That demolished all his arguments in the short term at the very least. Whoever bought at $450 almost doubled their money, while Stolfi had been arguing they were getting ripped off. He was very vocal during the bear market, but disappeared during the bull market.

I thought that this thread was about USD/BTC?

If you look at your link, the lead in USD is USD/ETH... , so you are seeming a bit off topic and especially when you are not qualifying your observation in such a way to clarify what you are asserting, exactly.

It seems fairly likely that Stolfi went to a place in which he would receive a better reception to his various absurd and insincere arguments.. And from the start, he did credibly indicate that he was participating in this wall observer thread because he perceived this thread to have a decent following and with an ability to get his message out there in a broad way... and so in that regard, it seems that he may have concluded that he gets his baloney message out there in a more effective and broader way by posting in other locations (outside of this particular thread).

I could give a ratt's ass about the various disgruntled comments regarding either my style or content.

Further, if you had been paying any kind of attention Torque (even in a minuscule way), you would likely have noticed that Stolfi and I are quite different substantively in our viewpoints regarding bitcoin and our approach to investing in it (or not, supposedly, in the case of Stolfi).  So, if you, or anyone else are getting caught up in style and/or length of post, and believe that those factors indicate any material substance, then you (and those like minded superficial posters) are a bunch of fucking loonies.      


Regarding the activism of Stolfi, he does seem to continue to be fairly active in a variety of bitcoin forums, and surely, he still participates here from time to time and on a seemingly sporadic basis.  Recently, I also heard him being interviewed on Bitcoin Uncensored.  Personally, I think that they gave him too much benefit of the doubt in terms of his "genuine" analysis of bitcoin, because really he seems like a disingenuous sophisticated troll to me, but that is fine, his bitcoin uncensored interview was still informative in terms of covering a variety of current and ongoing bitcoin matters.

Edit:  Regarding Stolfi, I see that Elwar beat me to it, and provided a decent substantive post regarding such a matter.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16392254

There's virtually no USD involved with Poloniex. It's not really any more valid than chucking a Chinese exchange in there.

If not considering the volume taking place on chinese exchanges today Poloniex is the leading exchange (USD).
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

But Bitcoin is dead, who cares?

Run Bitcoin Run!

I do wonder about these megatrolls. What an astonishing waste of life it is to write and agitate about something you hate. It's not going to change anything and you're throwing your precious life away while doing it.

Ah, Stolfi. Thing about him was, he was totally sincere. Can't even remember what his arguments were really, but he really believed them.

Stolfi is a celeb now. He even has his own following, most of whom don't even know they're being trolled.

Stolfi is living on r/Buttcoin now and has done an interview: https://soundcloud.com/bitcoinuncensored/buttcoin-vs-bitcoin-with-jorge-stolfi-of-rbuttcoin-king-of-the-butters

You mean like Stolfi?  Maybe JJG and Stolfi are one and the same?  (JJG, if you are not Stolfi, then dude - just take a hint and get to the point faster, quit rambling, and drop the condescending attitude.   )

Speaking of which, where has ol' JorgyPorgy run off too?  I really miss his long-winded, diatribe-like, innane ramblings about how Bitcoin and all other cryptocurrencies are completely doomed to fail. /S Paid trolls are so much fun to spot, because they are so obvious.