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Hey guys. My first post on here. Been reading the forum for around 6 months now and thought its about time I made a post. Why is it so quiet on the coin front at the mo. It's always so intense! I only hold 2 coins purchased with 'pocket' money every month so not on the same level as you guys!

I think you'd be surprised how few coins a lot of people who've been here for a long time have. two coins would make you the envy of a bunch of them.

as for why it's so quiet, that's the norm pretty much. pumps and falls are followed by long periods of nothing. let's see how long this one goes on for but I think this phase has the possibility of going scary quite quickly.

Oh really! I assumed everyone on here has 10+ by he way they talk.

Do you think scary up or scary down!  Shocked
legendary
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Hey guys. My first post on here. Been reading the forum for around 6 months now and thought its about time I made a post. Why is it so quiet on the coin front at the mo. It's always so intense! I only hold 2 coins purchased with 'pocket' money every month so not on the same level as you guys!

I think you'd be surprised how few coins a lot of people who've been here for a long time have. two coins would make you the envy of a bunch of them.

as for why it's so quiet, that's the norm pretty much. pumps and falls are followed by long periods of nothing. let's see how long this one goes on for but I think this phase has the possibility of going scary quite quickly.
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So zooming out to 1d on the chart, from 5/24, bitcoin is just looking like your typical PnD bubble that we've seen so many times before.  A blow off top, followed by long legs down.  

Looks like it could eventually deflate all the way back to ~450.  Undecided
I think so its slowly going down to healthy ground...to 400$..till next pump Grin


400$ ... that is impossible ... maybe only if the dollar doubles its value.

Miners where complaining when it was $300-350$ that it is too low, and they said they need at least $400+ to be prosperous. Meaning that their cartel, with half of the coins they where getting then making them now to need at least $650-700$ to be relaxed and $900+ to have no worries. But considering that there will be barely 4 million more coins in the next 12 years that will be semi-easy to mine, their supply is on thin ice till mass adoption. Meaning there will be a time when they will hold all and stop selling.
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OKcoin get fined by The Higher People's Court of Heilongjiang Province,the judge is finished at July 14th,and put online at July 29th.This judge is beyond most people's awareness because the company and and other peer companies didn't want to spread the news until today(20160813) The Securities Times(in Chinese is 证券时报)criticized that blockchain trading should be subject to legal supervision by describing a recent case in a passage without naming the defendant is OKcoin.
As we all know,Chinese authority’s attitude towards bitcoin is restricting the use and prohibiting bitcoin links to the Substantial Economy.Since this judge is the first judge that the major Chinese bitcoin exchange is the defendent,we can get some real concerns of the athority by analyzing the judgments.
○The business on OKcoin is illegal
"Lekuda company’s main business is OKCOIN ,which is a virtual currency exchange.It provides customers with a web space to exchange virtual assets and it profits by charging its clients fees (0.2%-0.4%) . Its dealings in accordance with the the 22nd Case of Network Management of Transactions (in Chinese 《网络交易管理办法》. According to this law,if the company wanted to provide online trading business,it should register at the administration of Industry and Commerce and get a business license.Lekuda company registered business scope only include such areas:technology development, transfer of technology, technical services, technical marketing, consulting and investment management.Trading bitcoin for profit-making purpose is beyond the range permitted by the administrative authorities . "

 → It shows OKcoin runs the business without approval
○OKcoin(it refers to okcoin.cn) is not recorded at the Telecommunications authorities of China "To the end of the trial, Lekuda failed to provide related materials recorded at the Telecommunications Authority registration .The address/domain name record information is not stamped with the seal of the Department, and it could not prove its effectiveness "
 →In China,every online service provider should be registered at the Telecommunications authorities. It shows OKcoin lacks the recorded approval documents ,so it cannot provide online service in mainland China
○OKcoin failed to strictly review the real names of every user,which makes it easy for money washing by bitcoin This case is caused by a criminal utilizing the loose review of user's real names in OKcoin .The criminal first cheated a company a large sum of money(12 million RMB,or 1.8 million US dollars),then used ID cards bought online to open up an acounts at OKcoin,at last used the money to buy Bitcoins and withdrawed in Macao.
 →Since the Chinese authorities prohibited any third-party payment services linking to bitcoin trading in 2014,the exchanges in China had to use the the accounts of its employee or other companies,a loose review of the real names increase the risk of money laundering,which the Chinese authorities would not like to see.They are afraid of the money flee from China.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xjtcw/okcoin_fined_by_chinese_court_for_helping/


Thank you, this is something to keep an eye on. It could turn very bearish if Chinese authorities would decide to shut down the mainland exchanges. Shocked

Not just bearish.... If Okcoin and even Huobi would get shut down with all the BFX shit on top this could throw back Bitcoins trust to the early Gox days.

Could be FUD as well. No source so far.

If you read all the comments in that reddit thread you will find this one by btcdrak. He says it's only a civil case, not a criminal case, and he posts a link to the original judgement. If it was a criminal case it would worry me, but a civil case is less serious for bitcoin in China.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xjtcw/okcoin_fined_by_chinese_court_for_helping/d6g4oxi

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btcdrak 54 minutes ago

The original judgement is here: http://wenshu.court.gov.cn/content/content?DocID=ce26a599-64e9-44ab-96fd-b04617d482b4&KeyWord=

EDIT: it is actually not "fined" it's a civil case, okcoin has to pay the victim for 40% of their loss.

It's important to note that all Chinese exchanges have been operating in a grey area since day 1. This judgement refers to okcoin.cn, not the .com site which is a separate business afaik.

EDIT 2: The case is from 2014, this is the OKCoin appeal, which they lost.
newbie
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Hey guys. My first post on here. Been reading the forum for around 6 months now and thought its about time I made a post. Why is it so quiet on the coin front at the mo. It's always so intense! I only hold 2 coins purchased with 'pocket' money every month so not on the same level as you guys!
member
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Ok ya but for gods sake don't buy any of them. In fact I recommend staying out of politics all together.

Oh, ok, I'll faithfully keep propping up the value of your favorite brand of bag, apolitically, of course.


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OKcoin get fined by The Higher People's Court of Heilongjiang Province,the judge is finished at July 14th,and put online at July 29th.This judge is beyond most people's awareness because the company and and other peer companies didn't want to spread the news until today(20160813) The Securities Times(in Chinese is 证券时报)criticized that blockchain trading should be subject to legal supervision by describing a recent case in a passage without naming the defendant is OKcoin.
As we all know,Chinese authority’s attitude towards bitcoin is restricting the use and prohibiting bitcoin links to the Substantial Economy.Since this judge is the first judge that the major Chinese bitcoin exchange is the defendent,we can get some real concerns of the athority by analyzing the judgments.
○The business on OKcoin is illegal
"Lekuda company’s main business is OKCOIN ,which is a virtual currency exchange.It provides customers with a web space to exchange virtual assets and it profits by charging its clients fees (0.2%-0.4%) . Its dealings in accordance with the the 22nd Case of Network Management of Transactions (in Chinese 《网络交易管理办法》. According to this law,if the company wanted to provide online trading business,it should register at the administration of Industry and Commerce and get a business license.Lekuda company registered business scope only include such areas:technology development, transfer of technology, technical services, technical marketing, consulting and investment management.Trading bitcoin for profit-making purpose is beyond the range permitted by the administrative authorities . "

 → It shows OKcoin runs the business without approval
○OKcoin(it refers to okcoin.cn) is not recorded at the Telecommunications authorities of China "To the end of the trial, Lekuda failed to provide related materials recorded at the Telecommunications Authority registration .The address/domain name record information is not stamped with the seal of the Department, and it could not prove its effectiveness "
 →In China,every online service provider should be registered at the Telecommunications authorities. It shows OKcoin lacks the recorded approval documents ,so it cannot provide online service in mainland China
○OKcoin failed to strictly review the real names of every user,which makes it easy for money washing by bitcoin This case is caused by a criminal utilizing the loose review of user's real names in OKcoin .The criminal first cheated a company a large sum of money(12 million RMB,or 1.8 million US dollars),then used ID cards bought online to open up an acounts at OKcoin,at last used the money to buy Bitcoins and withdrawed in Macao.
 →Since the Chinese authorities prohibited any third-party payment services linking to bitcoin trading in 2014,the exchanges in China had to use the the accounts of its employee or other companies,a loose review of the real names increase the risk of money laundering,which the Chinese authorities would not like to see.They are afraid of the money flee from China.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xjtcw/okcoin_fined_by_chinese_court_for_helping/


Thank you, this is something to keep an eye on. It could turn very bearish if Chinese authorities would decide to shut down the mainland exchanges. Shocked

Not just bearish.... If Okcoin and even Huobi would get shut down with all the BFX shit on top this could throw back Bitcoins trust to the early Gox days.

Could be FUD as well. No source so far.
legendary
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OKcoin get fined by The Higher People's Court of Heilongjiang Province,the judge is finished at July 14th,and put online at July 29th.This judge is beyond most people's awareness because the company and and other peer companies didn't want to spread the news until today(20160813) The Securities Times(in Chinese is 证券时报)criticized that blockchain trading should be subject to legal supervision by describing a recent case in a passage without naming the defendant is OKcoin.
As we all know,Chinese authority’s attitude towards bitcoin is restricting the use and prohibiting bitcoin links to the Substantial Economy.Since this judge is the first judge that the major Chinese bitcoin exchange is the defendent,we can get some real concerns of the athority by analyzing the judgments.
○The business on OKcoin is illegal
"Lekuda company’s main business is OKCOIN ,which is a virtual currency exchange.It provides customers with a web space to exchange virtual assets and it profits by charging its clients fees (0.2%-0.4%) . Its dealings in accordance with the the 22nd Case of Network Management of Transactions (in Chinese 《网络交易管理办法》. According to this law,if the company wanted to provide online trading business,it should register at the administration of Industry and Commerce and get a business license.Lekuda company registered business scope only include such areas:technology development, transfer of technology, technical services, technical marketing, consulting and investment management.Trading bitcoin for profit-making purpose is beyond the range permitted by the administrative authorities . "

 → It shows OKcoin runs the business without approval
○OKcoin(it refers to okcoin.cn) is not recorded at the Telecommunications authorities of China "To the end of the trial, Lekuda failed to provide related materials recorded at the Telecommunications Authority registration .The address/domain name record information is not stamped with the seal of the Department, and it could not prove its effectiveness "
 →In China,every online service provider should be registered at the Telecommunications authorities. It shows OKcoin lacks the recorded approval documents ,so it cannot provide online service in mainland China
○OKcoin failed to strictly review the real names of every user,which makes it easy for money washing by bitcoin This case is caused by a criminal utilizing the loose review of user's real names in OKcoin .The criminal first cheated a company a large sum of money(12 million RMB,or 1.8 million US dollars),then used ID cards bought online to open up an acounts at OKcoin,at last used the money to buy Bitcoins and withdrawed in Macao.
 →Since the Chinese authorities prohibited any third-party payment services linking to bitcoin trading in 2014,the exchanges in China had to use the the accounts of its employee or other companies,a loose review of the real names increase the risk of money laundering,which the Chinese authorities would not like to see.They are afraid of the money flee from China.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xjtcw/okcoin_fined_by_chinese_court_for_helping/


Thank you, this is something to keep an eye on. It could turn very bearish if Chinese authorities would decide to shut down the mainland exchanges. Shocked
legendary
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OKcoin get fined by The Higher People's Court of Heilongjiang Province,the judge is finished at July 14th,and put online at July 29th.This judge is beyond most people's awareness because the company and and other peer companies didn't want to spread the news until today(20160813) The Securities Times(in Chinese is 证券时报)criticized that blockchain trading should be subject to legal supervision by describing a recent case in a passage without naming the defendant is OKcoin.
As we all know,Chinese authority’s attitude towards bitcoin is restricting the use and prohibiting bitcoin links to the Substantial Economy.Since this judge is the first judge that the major Chinese bitcoin exchange is the defendent,we can get some real concerns of the athority by analyzing the judgments.
○The business on OKcoin is illegal
"Lekuda company’s main business is OKCOIN ,which is a virtual currency exchange.It provides customers with a web space to exchange virtual assets and it profits by charging its clients fees (0.2%-0.4%) . Its dealings in accordance with the the 22nd Case of Network Management of Transactions (in Chinese 《网络交易管理办法》. According to this law,if the company wanted to provide online trading business,it should register at the administration of Industry and Commerce and get a business license.Lekuda company registered business scope only include such areas:technology development, transfer of technology, technical services, technical marketing, consulting and investment management.Trading bitcoin for profit-making purpose is beyond the range permitted by the administrative authorities . "

 → It shows OKcoin runs the business without approval
○OKcoin(it refers to okcoin.cn) is not recorded at the Telecommunications authorities of China "To the end of the trial, Lekuda failed to provide related materials recorded at the Telecommunications Authority registration .The address/domain name record information is not stamped with the seal of the Department, and it could not prove its effectiveness "
 →In China,every online service provider should be registered at the Telecommunications authorities. It shows OKcoin lacks the recorded approval documents ,so it cannot provide online service in mainland China
○OKcoin failed to strictly review the real names of every user,which makes it easy for money washing by bitcoin This case is caused by a criminal utilizing the loose review of user's real names in OKcoin .The criminal first cheated a company a large sum of money(12 million RMB,or 1.8 million US dollars),then used ID cards bought online to open up an acounts at OKcoin,at last used the money to buy Bitcoins and withdrawed in Macao.
 →Since the Chinese authorities prohibited any third-party payment services linking to bitcoin trading in 2014,the exchanges in China had to use the the accounts of its employee or other companies,a loose review of the real names increase the risk of money laundering,which the Chinese authorities would not like to see.They are afraid of the money flee from China.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xjtcw/okcoin_fined_by_chinese_court_for_helping/
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So zooming out to 1d on the chart, from 5/24, bitcoin is just looking like your typical PnD bubble that we've seen so many times before.  A blow off top, followed by long legs down.  

Looks like it could eventually deflate all the way back to ~450.  Undecided
I think so its slowly going down to healthy ground...to 400$..till next pump Grin
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and then i started looking at my early videos https://youtu.be/s5Lo30EC0IQ?t=2m10s
LMFAO

"You go to MtGox.com you make a fuckload of money"

 Cheesy

So zooming out to 1d on the chart, from 5/24, bitcoin is just looking like your typical PnD bubble that we've seen so many times before.  A blow off top, followed by long legs down.  

Looks like it could eventually deflate all the way back to ~450.  Undecided


legendary
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So zooming out to 1d on the chart, from 5/24, bitcoin is just looking like your typical PnD bubble that we've seen so many times before.  A blow off top, followed by long legs down.  

Looks like it could eventually deflate all the way back to ~450.  Undecided


I think the same, no reason to be bullish (after the bfx hack).
legendary
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So zooming out to 1d on the chart, from 5/24, bitcoin is just looking like your typical PnD bubble that we've seen so many times before.  A blow off top, followed by long legs down.  

Looks like it could eventually deflate all the way back to ~450.  Undecided
legendary
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still pretty much sideways, $594 according to BitcoinAverage.
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Still stinking hot here in southern Ontario but they're calling for rain (finally!).

Maybe they'll close the roof at the SkyDome and I'll get to watch the game in air-conditioned comfort. I can't believe they had it open last night on the hottest night of the year. The humidex was 43C (108F)  at game time.

Isn't that why they built the original Astrodome, not to keep out rain nor snow but rather the oppressive heat? Seems that Rogers doesn't mind shitting on their customers to save a few AC dollars.
hero member
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Almost $5 billion volume in the last 30 days for Bitcoin trading alone. It's a huge number. This amount does not account for Chinese exchanges.
You can see everything here

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/volume/monthly/


what? just 758 s***coins? so few?

Grin

It's called scaling sidewaysTM.

QFT.

 Embarrassed

Ok ya but for gods sake don't buy any of them. In fact I recommend staying out of politics all together.

I see 8 billion(last 30 days) probably with the China exchanges as well... The sideways confusion has to give up, I guess everyone is waiting for something to happen. The people need a blood sacrifice on some demonic altar so they can be pleased and move on back to usual gambling habits!

But I think the pump is coming!... Because someone is losing money with this stagnation, and they can't resist giving free stuff any longer.
legendary
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Almost $5 billion volume in the last 30 days for Bitcoin trading alone. It's a huge number. This amount does not account for Chinese exchanges.
You can see everything here

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/volume/monthly/


what? just 758 s***coins? so few?

Grin

It's called scaling sidewaysTM.

QFT.

 Embarrassed

Ok ya but for gods sake don't buy any of them. In fact I recommend staying out of politics all together.
hero member
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And your prediction stands on what?  Grin

Besides the mini-ice age cycle that will last 15-20 years till 2035, the death of fiat paper money that reaches its cycle and also being overdue and the need for a global foundation and confidence that will be needed due to the massive displacement of population, because of the reasons I will give next, and them needing a currency accepted in almost every country in the world.

The US of A upcoming civil war and WWIII ... very many black swan events will be happening. Black swan events help bitcoin, and the inflation that keeps happening will soon be having less volatility as it rises with time. For example you are more able to acquire a higher percentage of bitcoin from trading now than what you will get 10 years from now. The more it grows, the more stability it gains in volatility.
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And your prediction stands on what?  Grin
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