Bitfinex should be focusing on attempts to communicate and create incentives for folks to stay and using their exchange rather than creating disincentives for account holders to leave.
Jesus Fuck... Really? I've been trying to just sit on the sidelines and merely _watch_ this shit-show, but I can no longer refrain from commenting. All y'all are some special breed of masochists. Incentives? Disincentives? Do you hear yourself typing? What more disincentive to deal with this incompetent band of "custodians" than leaving over a third of your cash at seaside? Really?
SMH.
Stop being so judgmental, and snap back into reality. Yeah, you want the exchange to fail, and yeah, you cannot believe that they are going to reopen, and yeah, you cannot believe that bitcoin still has a 1 mb blocksize limit, etc etc...
The reality of the matter is that bitfinex had offered a service that was not offered by other exchanges, including volume.
Now, my comment that you quoted has to do with their business perspective to attempt to retain customers and confidence. This is a projection regarding what they need to do in order to inspire folks to continue to use their exchange, and it does not mean that I, personally, am going to use their exchange. I personally do not yet know all of the terms upon which I will be able to withdraw my funds, even though I personally have been presented with a description from them regarding what they consider to be in my account.
I will _not_ stop being so judgmental.
Well, yeah, in the end, you can do what you want, but if you reflect a little bit, you will probably recognize that some of your emotional issues have to do with your failure and refusals to accept the reasoning of other people and the fact that other people come to different conclusions about how they are going to move forward.
Admittedly, my lecturing you about being judgement is a bit judgmental in itself, and I recognize that I probably am not going to affect you in any way - even though, I think it is fair to point out this matter from time to time, at least for the benefit of other readers, since this is a public thread.
I get it. It's your money, and you will throw it away in the manner you deem best.
I doubt that very many people, except perhaps delusional people, intend to just throw away money. In most cases, there is some perceived probability of benefit in spending or investing or gambling if you want to call it that... By diversification and various trading strategies, I personally attempt to keep at a pretty low level my own gambling practices, at least when it comes to my various crypto trading practices.
While it tangentially affects me in that you are enabling criminals, in the end you are gonna do what you are gonna do.
You are crazy when you attempt to suggest that you are affected in any kind of meaningful way from this. Maybe that is why you used the word "tangential", but really you should just attempt to accept that others are going to do things differently from you, and sure, your responsibility is to figure out how you are going to protect yourself, financially, if you believe this behavior affects you.
Regarding enabling criminals, I don't think that I need to argue about these speculations.. yeah there is all kinds of information out there on the interwebs about the potential bad intentions of these people and how their stories don't add up.. o.k... take those stories with a grain of salt, just like take the stories from them with a grain of salt.
But... really? You have absolutely no evidence that this scamcenter did not merely pocket your funds.
That's true. The official story from Bitfinex regarding what happened is weak... and even as you suggest the inferences that they pocketed all or part of the money is pretty decent.
'Hey buddy - I'll hold you money for you'
'oh wait - somebody picked my pocket'
'trust me with more?'
Who said anything about trusting them with more? Each of us has to decide that as we figure out what is going on. We know a bit more today than we did yesterday, and it appears that we can begin processing withdrawals of some of our bitfinex funds, if we so choose. It may take a bit of time before people start putting more money there.
I personally thought that Bitfinex should lower fees for a short period of time after reopening, but some reason it appears to them that they do not need to. Maybe down the road, if they are losing customers, then they may decide to create some additional lowering of fee incentives.
SM fucking H
Yeah. It's probably not very healthy to get so exasperated over the conduct of others, and maybe a bit more healthy and stress free to focus on your own conduct and your responses to such...
Accept Jbreher, accept.
For all my other faults, I at least recognized that when pirate@40 fucked me up the ass, his highest calling was _not_ my best interests, and that I didn't want to deal with him any longer.
Yes. Lots of people are likely to make similar conclusions regarding bitfinex. However, my understanding is that the story with bitfinex is somewhat different. Therefore, even though there may be similarities and red flags, the situations are not exactly the same, therefore people are going to come to varying conclusions and some folks will be more correct than others... but in the end, hopefully they are able to sufficiently figure out their own situation in order to adequately measure the risk and don't just decide what to do based on vague and emotional screams of others.
If it were up to you, we would be putting a considerable amount of our eggs in XT and Classic, and look where that would get us? disgruntled.
