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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 18484. (Read 26607892 times)

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Is everyone getting ready for the block party on 9th July? I'm still undecided on what to wear.
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On his pornography hosting business:
"He got in early," says Heidi Kelley, one of the company's first employees...

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^^ There's a long but still good Cryptsy saga rehash: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-disappeared-along-with-millions-of-his-customers-cash-8557571

(yes, BTC price is falling, but falling in a slow and boring way; unstaisfying.)
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So this girthy volume and price action is all due to Britons dumping their worthless FIATs? Because Brexit?

I told you the redcoats were coming. Did you think that was just an expression? The girth of the whole kingdom will soon fall at our feet.
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So this girthy volume and price action is all due to Britons dumping their worthless FIATs? Because Brexit?
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seems like general consensus is manipulation

congrats on working out the secret, now play the game

remember it has been happening for millennia, just look at the money lending practices

careful where you tread and remember buy low and sell high, you cannot lose



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So... Nope! ... What do you think most of the majority of those with 10k will do?... Answer: They will crash and burn trough it with silly investments and ventures! ... But mostly it will go to the little people!!! ... Cuz they have to pay the little people.. and the little businesses providing little things for the little people! So the cycle continues in favor of the little people!

Talking about little, what you say makes little to no sense.


But my point being with West / East ... was that the East will have more infrastructure set in place when the time comes for the big kahunas to invest in projects and spend their 10k coins... the wealth will gather in those places! And it will go away from the West... comprende? capisci?

if you are asserting that an appreciating asset, such as bitcoins are being accumulated in other parts of the world, then there could be some truth to that.  If you say that there could be some redistribution of wealth going on, there could be some truth to that, as well, but none of these kinds of practices and concerns are exactly systematic nor planned, but some persons making investment of their wealth into a potentially appreciating asset, such as bitcoin, could be the beneficiaries of redistribution of wealth.  None of this redistribution of wealth is for sure because there are a lot of other dynamics that still need to play out.


Look ... first to prove you wrong.... those 10k transactions that you are talking... Who in the name of the bloody F'ing God would advertise something like that??? Maybe billionaires with private armies!

Next issue... "I make no sense" ... You need to think on atomic-primal level of human behavior .... in 2-3 years when all the global economy will be in shambles. With all this awakening happening... people will lose more and more trust in fiat. And Gold/Silver are heavy and insecure. For example I'm planning to cross a border and live in the neighbor country cause they have rents 5-7 times less than I can get here.. and its like just 150 kilometers away. And I will probably rent a historic building with tall ceilings, cause I want to feel like I'm living in a presidential building with 5000 square feet space just for me! Now tell me.. how the F'udge I'm gonna cross the border with 1 kilo of gold??... There will be so many F'ing questions and probably confiscation!

Now that I gave you that example.. Lets say I want a private chef as well, just because. Also I need someone to clean at least once per week. Lets just say I'm gonna try to do some LLC's and hire people in that cheaper country and start to do a business... So... if you think I'm just going to grow old and not throw money in all directions... you are very delusional!!! And what do you think those with 10k will do?... Private estate with ultra security, feeding those people, cleaning the place, getting a girl, making kids, buy them cars,helicopters & private planes...

So.. that 10k you where talking about... where did it all go and disappear???





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On Candy!!! .. & exotic hookers!


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look what they did with the silver prices over the past 10 years and how they are kept artificially low...   

What if their families have been keeping prices artificially low for centuries, and plan to keep them artificially lower for aeons to come?
2spooky...
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It's all mathematics...!
PPL should not forget that we have legendary silver manipulators among us that will take all your btc and never look back...

of course it is being manipulated by an elite few on the same page ! 

look what they did with the silver prices over the past 10 years and how they are kept artificially low...   
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^Am I the only one who thinks "minorities..."?
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So... Nope! ... What do you think most of the majority of those with 10k will do?... Answer: They will crash and burn trough it with silly investments and ventures! ... But mostly it will go to the little people!!! ... Cuz they have to pay the little people.. and the little businesses providing little things for the little people! So the cycle continues in favor of the little people!

Talking about little, what you say makes little to no sense.


But my point being with West / East ... was that the East will have more infrastructure set in place when the time comes for the big kahunas to invest in projects and spend their 10k coins... the wealth will gather in those places! And it will go away from the West... comprende? capisci?

if you are asserting that an appreciating asset, such as bitcoins are being accumulated in other parts of the world, then there could be some truth to that.  If you say that there could be some redistribution of wealth going on, there could be some truth to that, as well, but none of these kinds of practices and concerns are exactly systematic nor planned, but some persons making investment of their wealth into a potentially appreciating asset, such as bitcoin, could be the beneficiaries of redistribution of wealth.  None of this redistribution of wealth is for sure because there are a lot of other dynamics that still need to play out.


Your walls of text give me headaches! .. I usually skip and don't read them too much if its longer than a few lines from you! ... You can try and take some artistic writing classes! To make it at least pleasurable! ... Cause now you are just torturing people! Cheesy

You should be the one to talk with your random bolding of text and your largely nonsensical and seemingly stream of consciousness sets of ideas.




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Ancient history I know, but I can't find much or any mention anywhere on here of this article posted last month regarding our old friend Gox. According to this Gox was missing 80,000 BTC before Mr Karpeles even bought it.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/19/behind-the-biggest-bitcoin-heist-in-history-inside-the-implosion-of-mt-gox.html

It was mentioned here at the time. It does tickle me that after encouraging Karpeles to conceal the loss and attempt to cover it, Jed McCaleb went on to create Ripple, the in-bed-with-banks ledger...
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Off exchange transactions is neither an east or west phenomenon, but merely a prudent practice for someone who is able to establish such connections.

If prices can be driven down on exchanges with 10k coins, and those same 10k coins can be bought back at a lower price off the exchanges, without moving the price back up, then conducting off chain transactions makes sense for those individuals with a large number of coins whether they are in the east, west, weast or in the snourth.   Tongue Tongue

You maybe talking about billionaires and huge companies or corporations... But I'm talking about the common folk.

And we are not talking about the volumes. We are talking about ideologies!

I said that the people from Eastern cultures are more likely to do under the table deals than the scared, paranoid, under surveillance... Western common folk!



Too Damn Long Do Not Try Too Read!!!

I doubt that broad generalizations serve anyone.

We are going to find a variety of behaviors based on amount of capital and access, and likely a large number of regular folks that have mediocre amounts of capital (let's say purchasing less than 10 coins at a time) are going to be using regular available channels for such purchases (and other trading activities).

Surely, smaller volume traders, unless they just happen to have some kind of connection, are not going to either be able to negotiate some special arrangement outside of exchanges or even be benefitted by some special arrangement.. yeah, maybe they have a friend or an arrangement, but that is likely to be the exception rather than the rule.


Too Damn Long Do Not Try Too Read!!!








Take again my example of some higher volume person purchasing 10k BTC or some variation of such, they are likely willing to pay a bit higher than the exchange price in order to acquire a large quantity of coins and not affect slippage.... and there also may be some  other shenanigans going on with those kinds of large volume folks that acquire a lot of coins and dump them on exchanges in order to push the price down off of the exchanges while acquiring for a lower price off exchanges.

                                                                                                Too Damn Long Do Not Read!!!
We cannot form generalizations about all of this activity because there is a multitude of activities affecting prices, but there remains an incentive for such off exchange deals and purchases in which prices are pushed down on exchanges by coins that had been bought off of exchanges, whether east, west, weast or snourth.



So... Nope! ... What do you think most of the majority of those with 10k will do?... Answer: They will crash and burn trough it with silly investments and ventures! ... But mostly it will go to the little people!!! ... Cuz they have to pay the little people.. and the little businesses providing little things for the little people! So the cycle continues in favor of the little people!

But my point being with West / East ... was that the East will have more infrastructure set in place when the time comes for the big kahunas to invest in projects and spend their 10k coins... the wealth will gather in those places! And it will go away from the West... comprende? capisci?

Your walls of text give me headaches! .. I usually skip and don't read them too much if its longer than a few lines from you! ... You can try and take some artistic writing classes! To make it at least pleasurable! ... Cause now you are just torturing people! Cheesy
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
If applied evenly, it would be called moderation. As it is applied selectively to those deemed "trolls and shills" by the party, it's called censorship. So now you know...

Cheers!

$800 2nite?

Regarding your first point:  Finally, you are attempting to engage and stay topical.... .. even though you are not correct in your conclusion.  The last time that I checked this forum fell into the private sector space, and it is not run or controlled by any government, therefore "censorship" does not fit this situation.
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From the book of knowledge:

"Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.[1]

Governments, private organizations and individuals may engage in censorship."

So you're wrong, which is OK, realizing the depths of one's wrongness is the path to enlightenment.  Smiley

Fine, $700 2nite?

1) I still believe that censorship is too strong a word and an inaccurate description for the particular referred to activity regarding your posts and the posts of some other troll/shills in which owners of mediums (such as this forum) have the right and discretion to keep their forums reasonably clear of disruptive and nonsubstantive clutter. 

In fact, your trolling and shilling activities frequently distract from substantive BTC related discussions, and therefore, they devalue the forum and dissuade from meaningful and substantive posts... Accordingly, censorship doesn't fit this situation, even though technically you could be correct that non-governmental entities could partake in such conduct under some circumstances.

2) I think $700 is also optimistic as a 10% increase, but sure, $700 is more likely than $800 (which would be a 25% increase), and surely $700 is within reach, even though it kind of feels a bit in the distance at the moment because we have to break through the resistance between the current price and $685.. and then $700 becomes even more within reach and plausible. 
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If applied evenly, it would be called moderation. As it is applied selectively to those deemed "trolls and shills" by the party, it's called censorship. So now you know...

Cheers!

$800 2nite?

Regarding your first point:  Finally, you are attempting to engage and stay topical.... .. even though you are not correct in your conclusion.  The last time that I checked this forum fell into the private sector space, and it is not run or controlled by any government, therefore "censorship" does not fit this situation.
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From the book of knowledge:

"Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.[1]

Governments, private organizations and individuals may engage in censorship."

So you're wrong, which is OK, realizing the depths of one's wrongness is the path to enlightenment.  Smiley

Fine, $700 2nite?
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Ancient history I know, but I can't find much or any mention anywhere on here of this article posted last month regarding our old friend Gox. According to this Gox was missing 80,000 BTC before Mr Karpeles even bought it.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/19/behind-the-biggest-bitcoin-heist-in-history-inside-the-implosion-of-mt-gox.html

I read that Mr Karpeles paid Jed McCaleb a dollar a Bitcoin when he bought it off him. He may have bought 100,000 Bitcoins off Jed McCaleb. If there was 80,000 BTC already missing they might have been worth 80,000 dollars at the time, which isn't close to the astronomical sum they were worth when it went bankrupt.

In this story Jed McCaleb says he asked Mr Karpeles to do some programming work on Gox before he bought it, so Mr Karpeles had the opportunity to tamper with Gox before it changed hands.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mtgoxs-founder-jed-mccaleb-lost-50000-held-bankrupt-bitcoin-exchange-1447050
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