@DaRude if you really have to talk to the trolls (Lambie) please don't quote them, the stupid hurts so much 
Fare enough. Online wallets that still allow 0fee transactions to general public should be chastised though. Damn it she/he got me again
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June 09, 2016, 09:24:37 AM
Fare enough. Online wallets that still allow 0fee transactions to general public should be chastised though. Damn it she/he got me again
June 09, 2016, 09:16:54 AM
@DaRude if you really have to talk to the trolls (Lambie) please don't quote them, the stupid hurts so much
June 09, 2016, 09:08:33 AM
I do wonder why big mining pools just don't give an option like hey for all those people who tried to get on a bus without paying the fare send us your transaction ID (tell us where you are) and pay fees (fine) to this new address and we'll try to include your non paying butt on the next bus we run
Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
This what you're talking about?Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_replacement
TL;DR: the problem with beetcoin is not that the fees are high, but that you don't know if you have enough money with you to be able to get off the bus, because, unlike a bus, beetcoin doesn't ask for your fare to get on. It lets you on, but if you don't have enough change on you? Have fun riding the bus. For the rest of your life
I am surprised that blockchain.info allows 0 fee transaction at all or at least without popping up a bunch or red warnings. That's the bus companies (wallets) fault, not surprised as i haven't heard anything good about their wallet for a while. You're trolling too hard transaction will eventually expire out of mempool but you probably already knew that (if you tried to get in without paying you might be stuck on the bus until they take you to the police station)
I honestly don't care whose fault it is, Satoshi's, God's, or Blockchain.info's, only care about the product. And the product is subpar, dangerous for the dregs of humanity who ain't well-versed in teh arcana of blogchain technology.
BTW, Are you implying that it's my tx, as in I'm this beetcoin tapeworm lady?
Also, why is the price dropping like that?
Is that normal 
June 09, 2016, 08:58:14 AM
I do wonder why big mining pools just don't give an option like hey for all those people who tried to get on a bus without paying the fare send us your transaction ID (tell us where you are) and pay fees (fine) to this new address and we'll try to include your non paying butt on the next bus we run
Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
This what you're talking about?Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_replacement
TL;DR: the problem with beetcoin is not that the fees are high, but that you don't know if you have enough money with you to be able to get off the bus, because, unlike a bus, beetcoin doesn't ask for your fare to get on. It lets you on, but if you don't have enough change on you? Have fun riding the bus. For the rest of your life
I am surprised that blockchain.info allows 0 fee transaction at all or at least without popping up a bunch or red warnings. That's the bus companies (wallets) fault, not surprised as i haven't heard anything good about their wallet for a while. You're trolling too hard transaction will eventually expire out of mempool but you probably already knew that (if you tried to get in without paying you might be stuck on the bus until they take you to the police station)
June 09, 2016, 08:54:11 AM
I feel like in the next few days we'll either have to continue going up or start to fall hard.
Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
ETH will bounce around some more, but i wouldn't expect much more then +30% it feels toppy already.Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
since Jan. 1Quote
BTC on the other hand has plenty of room to grow. +100-300% in the coming year for bitcoin, wouldn't surprise me.
Coin that went up less than 50% since Jan. 1
@gogodr: Worst pone ever.
June 09, 2016, 08:48:01 AM
I do wonder why big mining pools just don't give an option like hey for all those people who tried to get on a bus without paying the fare send us your transaction ID (tell us where you are) and pay fees (fine) to this new address and we'll try to include your non paying butt on the next bus we run
Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
This what you're talking about?Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_replacement
TL;DR: the problem with beetcoin is not that the fees are high, but that you don't know if you have enough money with you to be able to get off the bus, because, unlike a bus, beetcoin doesn't ask for your fare to get on. It lets you on, but if you don't have enough change on you? Have fun riding the bus. For the rest of your life
June 09, 2016, 08:43:24 AM
I feel like in the next few days we'll either have to continue going up or start to fall hard.
Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
ETH will bounce around some more, but i wouldn't expect much more then +30% it feels toppy already.Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
BTC on the other hand has plenty of room to grow. +100-300% in the coming year for bitcoin, wouldn't surprise me.
I think we'll see a smother ride up on the BTC,and intense volatility on ETH.
I have to agree with you on that one. ETH is a death trap as an investment now but btc does have much more upside potential.
Are you buying more btc these days
?
June 09, 2016, 08:42:00 AM
I feel like in the next few days we'll either have to continue going up or start to fall hard.
Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
ETH will bounce around some more, but i wouldn't expect much more then +30% it feels toppy already. and i bet this time next year ETH is less then 10$, a steady 1 billion dollar market cap whilst its coin supply inflates? probably...Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
BTC on the other hand has plenty of room to grow. +100-300% in the coming year for bitcoin, wouldn't surprise me.
I think we'll see a smother ride up on the BTC,and intense volatility on ETH.
June 09, 2016, 08:36:26 AM
I feel like in the next few days we'll either have to continue going up or start to fall hard.
Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
June 09, 2016, 08:35:06 AM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab 
@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future
Yeah i know it sounds very primitive. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, without social bullshit. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.
I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other
Look, I don't care if you're biased against women, Jews, lardos, blacks, cripples, queers, Azhuns, whatever. It's not about being PC.
The point is *money is supposed to work for all of them, or it's useless.*
How do you know i am not a women myself? Logic has no sex
Yeah, i just added an edit, thinking over again made obvious for me my own mistake
Alas, i assume since bitcoin is a very high risk field, and males are in general tend to take higher risk as comfortable, that might be a good explanation why the male/female user ratio is as it is. Also, mathematics. :-DAlso, in general any new tech is first used by males disproportionally high, like, since fire?
I'm not arguing that human females are as smart as you. All I'm saying is that money has to work for them, and money that doesn't work for them is a frickin' failure, not money. Why doe this even need to be said?
June 09, 2016, 08:30:51 AM
The future is finally here.
Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast! I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit. Very unlikely (like less than 0.0001% chance). I never had a transaction which did not get included at the next block, ever - of course i let my wallet software calculate the actual fee pressure and pay it, still highest fee ever paid was 0,0005, when the backlog was like 10k+ transactions, still got in the first block, np.
Even if they send a zero fee transaction, they will be included in hours, from one of those "lucky block streaks". Also, bitcoins can not be in a limbo. They are either at the original address until moved in a BLOCK, or at the new address after included in a BLOCK. If these mythical "2 days in limbo" are real, they just have to import the WIF to another wallet (or resend if the wallet has that option), and resend the same transaction with more (or non-zero) fees, the miners will accept, since the bitcoins are still at the original address when checked on the blockchain (coins are "on blockchain", not in the wallet software "it is known!") the old address until confirmed in a block not to be).
This "problem" is a FUD, any technically knowledgeable person will laugh on it...ps.: my message to these unicorn people: use a proper wallet with fee adjustment, and do not be a super cheap whiner on a 0.04$-0.08$ cost...
EDIT: some actual math: for 2 days without confirmation, someone needs to show me a 48 hours period with an average of 288 consecutive blocks, which are: all 100% full, with EVERY SINGLE transaction above the minimum 0,0001 fee paid. Come unicorns, show me such a period. They can not, that's why it is either BS, or they actually did not send the transaction (broken SVP maybe?) to the network, but too dumb to check if it is in the MemPool...
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has picked me up!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I also been sitting in front of western union for those 5 days asking them to transfer my money to someone else for $0.25 (that's like 5x what i'd pay in BTC fees) they're also yet to accept me. Any advise??
I do wonder why big mining pools just don't give an option like hey for all those people who tried to get on a bus without paying the fare send us your transaction ID (tell us where you are) and pay fees (fine) to this new address and we'll try to include your non paying butt on the next bus we run
Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
June 09, 2016, 08:24:14 AM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab @AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future
Yeah i know it sounds very primitive. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, without social bullshit. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.
I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other
Look, I don't care if you're biased against women, Jews, lardos, blacks, cripples, queers, Azhuns, whatever. It's not about being PC.
The point is *money is supposed to work for all of them, or it's useless.*
How do you know i am not a women myself? Logic has no sex
Yeah, i just added an edit, thinking over again made obvious for me my own mistake
Alas, i assume since bitcoin is a very high risk field, and males are in general tend to take higher risk as comfortable, that might be a good explanation why the male/female user ratio is as it is. Also, mathematics. :-DAlso, in general any new tech is first used by males disproportionally high, like, since fire?
June 09, 2016, 08:19:03 AM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab @AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future
Yeah i know it sounds very primitive. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, without social bullshit. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.
I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other
Look, I don't care if you're biased against women, Jews, lardos, blacks, cripples, queers, Azhuns, whatever. It's not about being PC.
The point is *money is supposed to work for all of them, or it's useless.*
It's OK if your new heavy tank doesn't have a tampon dispenser, but money which is too complicated for women is shit. The point of money is making commerce frictionless, so money which excludes most of mankind is *shit money*.
June 09, 2016, 08:14:11 AM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab Ahh cute analogy almost convinced me too, if not for AZwarel post above
but that's ok don't let that discourage your little heart. You just keep on trying.The damn bus system is completely rigged though WTF bus driver wants me to pay when i get on?? Let's both get on bus forum and troll them to death who da f*ck they think they are!?!
She's one of our sleeper agents, infiltrated beetcoin years ago and came up through the ranks, and when y'all finally accepted her as one of your own, BLAMO!
Enemies, infiltrators and saboteurs EVERYWHERE!
June 09, 2016, 08:13:36 AM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab @AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future
Yeah i know it sounds very non-pc. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, my care for social bullshit is zero. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.
I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other
EDIT: now that i think about it, i trapped myself ion confirmation bias. 99,99% of the male population does not care about bitcoin as well. So the male/female ratio in bitcoin usage does not really matter, from a random n sample it is just as likely to get a male or female 99% who knows nothing about bitcoin.
June 09, 2016, 08:06:20 AM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab Ahh cute analogy almost convinced me too, if not for AZwarel post above
but that's ok don't let that discourage your little heart. You just keep on trying.The damn bus system is completely rigged though WTF bus driver wants me to pay when i get on?? Let's both get on bus forum and troll them to death who da f*ck they think they are!?! Subways, trolleys, and don't get me started on those damn airplanes
June 09, 2016, 08:01:28 AM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab @AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future
June 09, 2016, 08:00:10 AM
The future is finally here.
Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast! I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit.
1. Go to the linked thread
2. Help human female
3. Get your reward
4. PR0FIT!
This might sounds very rude and non PC but.."ahh a female stuck with technology..no additional questions.."
EDIT:
This is the supposed stucked tx OP: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15135208
(mind that she actually included all information to backtrack her address information on a public forum which is..meh)
This is the actual transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9
OFC, zero fees. And the tx id receive time is 2016-06-08 02:33:13, that was not 2 days ago...
I smell BS.
June 09, 2016, 07:55:08 AM
The future is finally here.
Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast! I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit. Very unlikely (like less than 0.0001% chance). I never had a transaction which did not get included at the next block, ever - of course i let my wallet software calculate the actual fee pressure and pay it, still highest fee ever paid was 0,0005, when the backlog was like 10k+ transactions, still got in the first block, np.
Even if they send a zero fee transaction, they will be included in hours, from one of those "lucky block streaks". Also, bitcoins can not be in a limbo. They are either at the original address until moved in a BLOCK, or at the new address after included in a BLOCK. If these mythical "2 days in limbo" are real, they just have to import the WIF to another wallet (or resend if the wallet has that option), and resend the same transaction with more (or non-zero) fees, the miners will accept, since the bitcoins are still at the original address when checked on the blockchain (coins are "on blockchain", not in the wallet software "it is known!") the old address until confirmed in a block not to be).
This "problem" is a FUD, any technically knowledgeable person will laugh on it...ps.: my message to these unicorn people: use a proper wallet with fee adjustment, and do not be a super cheap whiner on a 0.04$-0.08$ cost...
EDIT: some actual math: for 2 days without confirmation, someone needs to show me a 48 hours period with an average of 288 consecutive blocks, which are: all 100% full, with EVERY SINGLE transaction above the minimum 0,0001 fee paid. Come unicorns, show me such a period. They can not, that's why it is either BS, or they actually did not send the transaction (broken SVP maybe?) to the network, but too dumb to check if it is in the MemPool...
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has picked me up!!! WHAT DO I DO?
I also been sitting in front of western union for those 5 days asking them to transfer my money to someone else for $0.25 (that's like 5x what i'd pay in BTC fees) they're also yet to accept me. Any advise??
June 09, 2016, 07:52:48 AM
The future is finally here.
Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast! I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit.
1. Go to the linked thread
2. Help human female
3. Get your reward
4. PR0FIT!
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