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legendary
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A leech who, having penetrated the shell of a turtle only to find that the creature has long been dead, deems it expedient to form a new attachment to a fresh turtle.  Huh
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
Hahahaha, if true, hilarious! http://pastebin.com/8a2EdtSV <==supposed to be an email leak
TL;DR: Bruce Fenton trying to become relevant by offering Core fancy-sounding BitcoinFoundation titles if they just play with him Cheesy

NOTICE ME SENPAI!!

Lol, confirmed Cheesy

"[–]bruce_fenton [score hidden] 37 minutes ago

This email was a private/ non public email meant for about a dozen of the leading core Devs."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4kt7uv/leak_bruce_fenton_attempts_to_revive_failed_and/

Between this "leak" of an unsolicited group email and the "crashing" of his club med roundtable, Queen Bruce proves he has a very naive view of what is and isn't private.

its way to long and i didnt read, but i dont understand what you guys have against this dude.
all i know of the guy besides this is, he hosted a meeting with all the devs in an attempt to get them on the same page.
seems to me he's a rich dude that has invested interest in making bitcoin succeed and he's trying to help in whatever way he can.
this latest attempt appears to be offering PR services for Core dev through the bitcoin foundation.

what wrong with that?

to me we're lucky to have him spending time and money on bitcoin.
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Good afternoon Bitcoinland.

Almost recovered from last week's mini-dip down to $433. Time to take another run at $450.

legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
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Not all debt is good debt, is that what you're trying to tell me? How is this any different than all the bit-coin deadbeats captains of industry scurrying off with investors' bit-coins?

You still haven't answered my question tho:
Money IS debt. If not contract/debt, what is it Huh

If we are talking about macro-economics and how debt is used and abused systemically, then there are a lot of problems and abuses that can unjustly enrich, exploit and cause a variety of irrational and non-democratic outcomes.

On the other hand, as individuals we cannot necessarily change a lot of these systematic matters, and we can attempt to find ways to utilize debt to our advantage, and to leverage into better situations that may not be possible without taking on the debt that may also be based on our own building of credit.

Some of these tools are certainly going to remain in play especially in the short term no matter how popular bitcoin becomes - we cannot really uninvent various legacy systems, even though with the passage of time these legacy systems are going to be forced into some adapting, and the timeline for such depends upon how rapidly bitcoin is able to spread (and any other similarly situated decentralized currency that may come into being in the coming years).
newbie
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^So much senseless anger Sad
legendary
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Look at it from a different perspective: it's almost impossible for a poor person to accrue substantial debt, only a fool would lend money to someone who can't pay. That's why bums don't live in mansions and drive Ferraris -- no one offers them that kind (or any kind of) credit.

Does this clear things up at all?
Do yourself a favor and read about 2008 sub-prime implosion caused exactly by bums living in mansions and driving Ferraris. Educate yourself.

BiG Dick is Lambies (NLC) latest fresh created troll account spewing as ussual the unnecessary bullshit. Dont bother...not much ppl online here atm.
newbie
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Not all debt is good debt, is that what you're trying to tell me? How is this any different than all the bit-coin deadbeats captains of industry scurrying off with investors' bit-coins?

You still haven't answered my question tho:
Money IS debt. If not contract/debt, what is it Huh
legendary
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Look at it from a different perspective: it's almost impossible for a poor person to accrue substantial debt, only a fool would lend money to someone who can't pay. That's why bums don't live in mansions and drive Ferraris -- no one offers them that kind (or any kind of) credit.

Does this clear things up at all?
Do yourself a favor and read about 2008 sub-prime implosion caused exactly by bums living in mansions and driving Ferraris. Educate yourself.
newbie
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^
Wow, didn't mean to trigger you bro, I'm sorry. I'll answer your questions tho. ELY5 Smiley
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If debt is money then the more debt you have in a community the more wealthy is that community as a whole.
That's silly. If I owe you 100 bit-coins and you owe me 100 bit-coins, our community of 2 has plenty of debt, but nothing could be said about its wealth.
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most indebted nations think they are the richest ones.
They don't think they're the richest nations because they have the most debt. They think they're the richest nations because they have stuff, power and clout. That's what makes them rich.
Look at it from a different perspective: it's almost impossible for a poor person to accrue substantial debt, only a fool would lend money to someone who can't pay. That's why bums don't live in mansions and drive Ferraris -- no one offers them that kind (or any kind) of credit.

Does this clear things up at all?
legendary
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then this isn't money but debt!

Money IS debt. If not contract/debt, what is it Huh
This is one of the biggest fallacies about money even in the academic world. If debt is money then the more debt you have in a community the more wealthy is that community as a whole. But NO! It is not strange at all that most indebted nations think they are the richest ones.

If I have a piece of gold in my hand nobody owes me anything. If I have 1 bitcoin in my wallet nobody owes me anything.

This is why ethers is fuel while bitcoins is money!
newbie
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then this isn't money but debt!

Money IS debt. If not contract/debt, what is it Huh
legendary
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Bitcoin must integrate intelligence right into the blockchain, protocol-level smartness is what's needed to contractualize the future of money!
Wut?
Money must be money without any contract. If there must be some contract behind money then this isn't money but debt!
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
The more i read about Rootstock smart-contracts, the more i realize that ETH days are numbered. Those guys at Rootstock labs will making a next generation improved version of smart-contracts that be realesed around the end of this year and will smash ETH into the ground.

Remember this; everything that will be build on top of Bitcoins Blockchain will crush all competitors.

https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/172/bitcoin-getting-smarter-smart-contracts-than-ethereum/

http://www.rootstock.io/

Burning hundreds of coal fired state subsidized MW's for next to useless calculations might be ok for parts of the financial sector, but for many others this might be seen as a PR problem.
newbie
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The more i read about Rootstock smart-contracts, the more i realize that ETH days are numbered. Those guys at Rootstock labs will making a next generation improved version of smart-contracts that be realesed around the end of this year and will smash ETH into the ground.

Remember this; everything that will be build on top of Bitcoins Blockchain will crush all competitors.

https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/172/bitcoin-getting-smarter-smart-contracts-than-ethereum/

http://www.rootstock.io/

What if before rootstock is released someone else releases something with smarter smart contracts than rootstock's smarter smart contracts than ethereum's smart contracts?

Rootstock smart contracts aren't even smart, just some Turing-incomplete software stack kludges that don't even try to shift paradigms. How's that disruptive?
Bitcoin must integrate intelligence right into the blockchain, protocol-level smartness is what's needed to contractualize the future of money!
sr. member
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Hahahaha, if true, hilarious! http://pastebin.com/8a2EdtSV <==supposed to be an email leak
TL;DR: Bruce Fenton trying to become relevant by offering Core fancy-sounding BitcoinFoundation titles if they just play with him Cheesy

NOTICE ME SENPAI!!

Lol, confirmed Cheesy

"[–]bruce_fenton [score hidden] 37 minutes ago

This email was a private/ non public email meant for about a dozen of the leading core Devs."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4kt7uv/leak_bruce_fenton_attempts_to_revive_failed_and/

Between this "leak" of an unsolicited group email and the "crashing" of his club med roundtable, Queen Bruce proves he has a very naive view of what is and isn't private.
member
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The more i read about Rootstock smart-contracts, the more i realize that ETH days are numbered. Those guys at Rootstock labs will making a next generation improved version of smart-contracts that be realesed around the end of this year and will smash ETH into the ground.

Remember this; everything that will be build on top of Bitcoins Blockchain will crush all competitors.

https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/172/bitcoin-getting-smarter-smart-contracts-than-ethereum/

http://www.rootstock.io/

What if before rootstock is released someone else releases something with smarter smart contracts than rootstock's smarter smart contracts than ethereum's smart contracts?
sr. member
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In XEM we trust
Where're eth pump trolls today?

Pumping bitcoin. Variety: the spice of life Smiley

Guys, how's about some help? y'all forgotten how to pump?
MOON

newbie
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Where're eth pump trolls today?

Pumping bitcoin. Variety: the spice of life Smiley

Guys, how's about some help? y'all forgotten how to pump?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Hahahaha, if true, hilarious! http://pastebin.com/8a2EdtSV <==supposed to be an email leak
TL;DR: Bruce Fenton trying to become relevant by offering Core fancy-sounding BitcoinFoundation titles if they just play with him Cheesy

NOTICE ME SENPAI!!

Lol, confirmed Cheesy

"[–]bruce_fenton [score hidden] 37 minutes ago

This email was a private/ non public email meant for about a dozen of the leading core Devs."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4kt7uv/leak_bruce_fenton_attempts_to_revive_failed_and/
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