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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 19928. (Read 26607976 times)

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Crypto is King.
If you bought at $1,100.00 and managed to hold on to them all the way down, you're either a very long term believer in hodling, or you don't need to be trading.

Maybe some killed themselves and their bitcoin are still sitting in wallets, perhaps waiting to double in value next this year?
FTFY

You could've always shorted those coins on the way down from $1,100 to make some of it back, too. Now is the worst possible time to take out a long term short, btw. This rocket has refueled and is ready for launch.
legendary
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If you bought at $1,100.00 and managed to hold on to them all the way down, you're either a very long term believer in hodling, or you don't need to be trading.

Maybe some killed themselves and their bitcoin are still sitting in wallets, perhaps waiting to double in value next year?
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Crypto is King.
If you bought at $1,100.00 and managed to hold on to them all the way down, you're either a very long term believer in hodling, or you don't need to be trading.
legendary
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There's an intriguing bit of psychology at play as the price rises. And this is only really going to kick in once we're in the quad digits. Humans have this peculiar trait about us that the more expensive something is the more we desire it. People with wealth in other areas will see the rise, and will find themselvews strongly compelled to buy some of these mysterious bits. And this cycle will continue on upwards.

Tell that to the buyers at $1100 Nov/13.

He doesn't have to. They proved it themselves.

Touche'
legendary
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There's an intriguing bit of psychology at play as the price rises. And this is only really going to kick in once we're in the quad digits. Humans have this peculiar trait about us that the more expensive something is the more we desire it. People with wealth in other areas will see the rise, and will find themselvews strongly compelled to buy some of these mysterious bits. And this cycle will continue on upwards.

Tell that to the buyers at $1100 Nov/13.
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Eadem mutata resurgo
There's an intriguing bit of psychology at play as the price rises. And this is only really going to kick in once we're in the quad digits. Humans have this peculiar trait about us that the more expensive something is the more we desire it. People with wealth in other areas will see the rise, and will find themselvews strongly compelled to buy some of these mysterious bits. And this cycle will continue on upwards.

it is well studied, known as Veblen goods ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

Interestingly with bitcoin it actually has an underlying utility value logic driving the Veblen good phenomenem also, because as the total value of the bitcoin float goes higher (market cap) it becomes more useful to move larger amounts around (across borders) without causing instability, volatility.

So as the value of 1 bitcoin goes higher it becomes more useful to a greater pool of funds, and as we know most of the global fiat wealth is concentrated in very few hands so it is not a linear trend towards more usefulness but accelerates, i.e. it is an exponentially more useful good as the total bitcoin float value increases. It becomes more valuable to an exponentially greater pool of wealth the higher it goes, it is like an exponentially more desirable Veblen good.
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Crypto is King.
There's an intriguing bit of psychology at play as the price rises. And this is only really going to kick in once we're in the quad digits. Humans have this peculiar trait about us that the more expensive something is the more we desire it. People with wealth in other areas will see the rise, and will find themselvews strongly compelled to buy some of these mysterious bits. And this cycle will continue on upwards.
Microeconomics 2302. Wink

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Any predictions on where the btc price is going to around January?
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Any of you chaps happen to know how the SR coins were actually seized?

I'd assume they got hold of his shit and found the private keys, but some guy seems to think the NSA used their super sekrit backdoor keys to steal them.

Can anyone shed light on this conundrum

He gave them access to them. Life in prison didn't sound too appealing.
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Any of you chaps happen to know how the SR coins were actually seized?

I'd assume they got hold of his shit and found the private keys, but some guy seems to think the NSA used their super sekrit backdoor keys to steal them.

Can anyone shed light on this conundrum
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If fiat does collapse to zero, I assure you the last thing on your mind will be bitcoin - it will be how the fuck am I going to survive this day?

You got a good point there, and even though Armageddon is possible, only the real nut jobs plan their whole future (financial and/or otherwise) based on the less likely scenario, while acting as if Armageddon is coming in the next few hours.
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There's an intriguing bit of psychology at play as the price rises. And this is only really going to kick in once we're in the quad digits. Humans have this peculiar trait about us that the more expensive something is the more we desire it. People with wealth in other areas will see the rise, and will find themselvews strongly compelled to buy some of these mysterious bits. And this cycle will continue on upwards.
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Looks like it shrugged off $400 dump, up we go.
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legendary
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I believe that you have kind of answered your question in a couple of places by asserting that you don't really know if the points that you raised are issues are not.

Well, I don't think it answers any questions. Though I agree with what your point seems to be - that we should not automatically assume this is broken.

However, if one embraces (what I perceive to be) the key tenets of Bitcoin -- trustlessness and decentralization -- then we _all_ have a duty to perform due diligence before accepting even a minor change, let alone one that so radically alters the allocation of responsibility as this.

I guess I am just advocating some judicious scrutiny of which of the pied pipers you choose to follow. For it seems that some of the loudest such have not even as of yet read the entire score.


Well there are only so many hours in the day to research every and all aspects of life and how we may be materially affected by various changes and the conduct of others.  Certainly, there is a need for a variety of people to look into matters, rather than taking things at face value, and certainly I cannot fault you for any of your attempts to find flaws that may exist because if you were to uncover any significantly material flaws, then the whole bitcoin community could benefit from uncovering of such flaws, if they exist and were previously unknown.
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If fiat does collapse to zero, I assure you the last thing on your mind will be bitcoin - it will be how the fuck am I going to survive this day?

If bitcoin has grown big enough by that time, then I bet other people will be quick to pick up on it aswell.

Of course we're talking a market capitalization a lot bigger then now in that case.
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If fiat does collapse to zero, I assure you the last thing on your mind will be bitcoin - it will be how the fuck am I going to survive this day?

Don't you read this thread at all?

These guyz have fiber to their fallout shelters.

And guns. Lots of them.
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all commodities are down, except of course...... bitcoin. ... that says a lot in itself. when the dollar finally gives up the ghost, and it will eventually, then value of bitcoin will collapse in purchasing power as compared with the new currency while metals will soar:

"The economy is collapsing.  This is evident from the ongoing crash in commodities, especially the price of oil and natural gas.  The consumer is tapped out." Retail Sales: It’s Going To Be A Slaughter - http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/retail-sales-its-going-to-be-a-slaughter/


bitcoin is not tied to the US$ in any way whatsoever ... that's just borked thinking right there.

take a look at all the other global trade of btc in europe, south america, eastern europe, asia ... when the currency markets collapse and banks lock up a la greece people will use whatever money they can


i disagree... bitcoin is valued in fiat currency. when fiat currency collapses what will bitcoin be valued in ?? 1 bitcoin will equal what ??

greece was still able to value their bitcoins in usd and euros.

i'm not sure you understand fundamentals of money and relative values at all ... so probably worthless trying to argue with this level of derp (or troll hard to tell).
legendary
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If fiat does collapse to zero, I assure you the last thing on your mind will be bitcoin - it will be how the fuck am I going to survive this day?
legendary
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all commodities are down, except of course...... bitcoin. ... that says a lot in itself. when the dollar finally gives up the ghost, and it will eventually, then value of bitcoin will collapse in purchasing power as compared with the new currency while metals will soar:

"The economy is collapsing.  This is evident from the ongoing crash in commodities, especially the price of oil and natural gas.  The consumer is tapped out." Retail Sales: It’s Going To Be A Slaughter - http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/retail-sales-its-going-to-be-a-slaughter/


bitcoin is not tied to the US$ in any way whatsoever ... that's just borked thinking right there.

take a look at all the other global trade of btc in europe, south america, eastern europe, asia ... when the currency markets collapse and banks lock up a la greece people will use whatever money they can


i disagree... bitcoin is valued in fiat currency. when fiat currency collapses what will bitcoin be valued in ?? 1 bitcoin will equal what ??

greece was still able to value their bitcoins in usd and euros.


What kind of lame question is that?  Bitcoin is NOT pegged to anything.   

helrow?Huh

 

Bitcoin is valued in whatever it is being traded against, doesn't matter what is the other asset, the trade value will float and will be determined at the time of the trade, if fiat collapses and it costs $1million to buy a loaf of bread, then perhaps bitcoin will be valued at $1million per 1 satoshi or something like that... .

Aztecminer, you seem smart enough to be able to extrapolate that various assets and/or currencies float in value against others and wouldn't really go completely to zero, unless there is completely no utility or value in the asset.
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