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legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page.  

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

no.

Are you talking about that seastedding thing, a floating nation made out of discarded tires and empty milk jugs, tethered to an abandoned oil derrick?
Some user here with an E nick, something like Egon or Egor was doing that. I think that has great potential.
Or that chunk of no man's land between Serbia and Croatia some enterprising nation-builder creatively called "Liberland"? <==hahahaha

If you are referring to me then, yes I'm working on something. Not so much discarded tires or abandoned anything. Should be incorporated this month and begin actual building in the next few months.

No, we're not working on starting a full nation. Baby steps first.
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@jbreher: Is THIS the one, ZEDE?

I honestly don't know. When Yago presented at the Bitcoin 2013 conference in San Jose, he quite pointedly refused to divulge with which country Epiphyte was negotiating. Honduras seems quite plausible.

That since-imploded Chilean thing had already been in discussion elsewhere, so I know that it is not the same effort.

eta: more info: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/silicon-valley-raspberrycoinscom-edan-yago-coinmktcoms-travis-skweres-316449


I don't know how authoritative this source is but from https://www.homestrings.com/news-and-analysis/2014/april/24/what-you-need-to-know-about-bitcoin-remittances-and-the-developing-world/#.VlYSWb9SIcQ


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Edan said that he believed that remittances would not be the driver of Bitcoin adoption because more liquidity is first needed. However, adoption and therefore the velocity of transactions appear to be increasing at an exponential rate as the only barrier to entry for Bitcoin adoption is a text enabled phone. This is hardly a “barrier” as the Vodafone Foundation recently revealed in its report (PDF) “How mobile phones are changing the world – and the challenges facing the next mobile revolution,” that a reliable mobile phone in sub-Saharan Africa has dropped to $10 for a basic 2G handset with voice and data. Pelle mentioned that he was able to buy a mobile phone very cheaply as well …but in a colored fashion that his purchase had what I will refer to as a tourist “surcharge.” Further it was interesting to note that Edan is working on a free trade zone in the Honduras that would use cryptocurrency as legal tender.
legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

Flashback: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-chilean-libertarian-paradise/

Yeah, I think that's what jbreher is talking abou, not sure why he's denying it. A "'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent." Aptly called Galt's Gulch Smiley

Jbreher, you sure this doesn't ring any bells?
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"We aren't seeking to become a sovereign state, or city, as others have proposed in the past. We are simply offering a safe and prosperous place for people to come together and enjoy life in an economic climate that nobody has ever experienced before."

I already explained in THIS MESSAGE that it was not the Galt's Gulch thing in Chile.


Cool. Doesn't look like anyone got scammed too badly, so already head & shoulders above most 'libertarian' projects.

This ZEDE, of course, doesn't exist yet, correct? Because an actual working example which doesn't turn out to be a scam would fly in the face of everything Libertarian.

I don't know anything else about the ZEDE that the Epiphyte people were involved with.  ZEDEs, in general, have been around in Honduras for quite a while, and as far as I know, have nothing to do with Libertarianism per se - unless you consider free-trade zones to be inherently Libertarian.

The Galt's Gulch thing in Chile was only associated with Libertarians in so far as the victims of the scam were presumably Libertarians.  Lots of those kind of scams around, you don't have to be a Libertarian to get burned by unscrupulous people.


legendary
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@jbreher: Is THIS the one, ZEDE?

I honestly don't know. When Yago presented at the Bitcoin 2013 conference in San Jose, he quite pointedly refused to divulge with which country Epiphyte was negotiating. Honduras seems quite plausible.

That since-imploded Chilean thing had already been in discussion elsewhere, so I know that it is not the same effort.

eta: more info: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/silicon-valley-raspberrycoinscom-edan-yago-coinmktcoms-travis-skweres-316449

Further eta: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208333.0;all

Further further edit after re-familiarization: Nope - not Honduras.
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Moon and trains pics plz
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legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page.  

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

Flashback: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-chilean-libertarian-paradise/

Yeah, I think that's what jbreher is talking abou, not sure why he's denying it. A "'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent." Aptly called Galt's Gulch Smiley

Jbreher, you sure this doesn't ring any bells?
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"We aren't seeking to become a sovereign state, or city, as others have proposed in the past. We are simply offering a safe and prosperous place for people to come together and enjoy life in an economic climate that nobody has ever experienced before."

It rings plenty of bells. Different project. That's why I am denying it. Quite simple, really. I don't know why you persist in trying to mischaracterize my posts.
legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page.  

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

no.

Are you talking about that seastedding thing, a floating nation made out of discarded tires and empty milk jugs, tethered to an abandoned oil derrick?

no.

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Or that chunk of no man's land between Serbia and Croatia some enterprising nation-builder creatively called "Liberland"? <==hahahaha

no.
legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

Flashback: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-chilean-libertarian-paradise/

Yeah, I think that's what jbreher is talking abou, not sure why he's denying it. A "'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent." Aptly called Galt's Gulch Smiley

Jbreher, you sure this doesn't ring any bells?
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"We aren't seeking to become a sovereign state, or city, as others have proposed in the past. We are simply offering a safe and prosperous place for people to come together and enjoy life in an economic climate that nobody has ever experienced before."

I already explained in THIS MESSAGE that it was not the Galt's Gulch thing in Chile.
legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

no.

Are you talking about that seastedding thing, a floating nation made out of discarded tires and empty milk jugs, tethered to an abandoned oil derrick?
Some user here with an E nick, something like Egon or Egor was doing that. I think that has great potential.
Or that chunk of no man's land between Serbia and Croatia some enterprising nation-builder called "Liberland"? <==hahahaha

The Seasteading Institute was founded by Peter Thiel, the co-founder of Paypal.  I don't know if he ever had an account on this forum.
legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page.  

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

Flashback: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-chilean-libertarian-paradise/

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People have been stung by scams involving bitcoin recently, so many may be reluctant to part with such a large amount of currency for a slice of a community that some would say sounds too good to be true.
"Those who have been to our Spring Celebration, and/or have toured our project, know that the project is not a scam and is quite real," said Johnson.
legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page.  

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

no.

It was one of the free-trade zones in Honduras, like this.
legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.

This it? http://panampost.com/adriana-peralta/2014/09/04/galts-gulch-chile-libertarian-paradise-turned-nightmare/

no.
legendary
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legendary
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I don't see Epiphyte among the "partners"  listed in the Visa Europe Collab page

Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.
legendary
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We'll never speak of it again Smiley

If only I could take you at your word, sonnyderp.
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