Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 2022. (Read 26694844 times)

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Bitcoin payment app Strike has expanded its business to 65 countries, currently choosing El Salvador as its global headquarter. The founder of this company Jack Mallers said his company Strike was one of the first companies to receive a license from El Salvador. We know that Bitfinex received the first license from El Salvador after crypto currency regulation. El Salvador has been crypto regulated recently, encouraging Bitcoin and cryptocurrency related companies to relocate their headquarters there. El Salvador is slowly moving towards realizing its dream.



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Many of us folks who have been in bitcoin for at least a cycle or two (which seems that it would include you in that group Xinarae*) likely realize that even if we might be a bit skeptical about bitcoin, it tends to be way better to at least get started and to establish some kind of a bitcoin position, even if such position might later turn out to seem rather whimpy (as some members will later find out - no need for names here) rather than to just sit on the sidelines and to fail/refuse to get off of zero.

So at least getting off zero will likely allow for a motive to be better informed about bitcoin, rather than spouting out some of the ongoing nonsensical little jabs at bitcoin like FinePoine0 and some of his seeming compatriots seems to enjoy weaving through various bitcoin threads during times like these (in which the BTC price seems to be having some difficulties figuring out which way it wants to go - even though for sure we know that the bitcoin price does not even have a mind, but which way it goes does have to do with what people/normies are doing, in the aggregate).

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If we look closely at the past few years, we see that everything goes miles closer to your opinion, which is the main reason that many people have been waiting for this auspicious time for a long time. Which is just for a good chance. If one does not exploit the future very well, one may have to wait a few more years. I strongly believe that people will try to make the most of these opportunities because they know that good times are coming for Bitcoin.

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Well of course, you have to come to your own conclusions regarding whether you believe that he is trying to be genuine or not, and if you believe that he is making misrepresentations that you believe to have had been discrediting.

Personally, I have no problem with him or with some other people who are outstandingly pro-bitcoin in a variety of ways yet might seem to have strong personalities and/or strong egos and even make some exaggerated statements in order to make various points.

Overall, I find people who are either attacking Keiser or Bukele or even some of the pro-bitcoiners to either getting distracted by character or trying to get others distracted by character, when it seems to me that Keiser is largely correct about a lot of things, even if sometimes he says some seemingly outrageous things to be attacking bankers or status quo financial institutions.. and sometimes he is joking and sometimes he is not... you have not really pointed to any kind of material representation that I would consider to undermine him and you just seem to be saying that mostly you do not trust him, and I would say the opposite..

Mostly I trust Keiser, even though I have found a few things that he has done or said to be a little disagreeable, but I am not so bothered as to suggest that he is not mostly credible. .which I think that he is largely directionally correct.. just like most of the bitcoin maxis are mostly directionally correct on the topics of bitcoin and macro economics, even though some of the bitcoin maxis may have made some decently BIG human flaws and some of them seem to have developed BIG egos.. but even if we get to know some members of our families, sometimes we will find them to be irritating in some ways even if we might trust them in terms of some things (topics) but do not trust them or their judgement with other things (topics), and if we might be talking about Keiser in terms of his relationship with El Salvador and with Bukele.. it seems to me that Keiser (and Stacy Herbert) and there are a few other famous bitcoiners who are involved in various business and diplomatic deals with Bukele in terms of both promoting El Salvador as a country (and as a bitcoin country) and promoting bitcoin as something that is being promoted and propagated in El Salvador and in other countries.. and I find those things to be good things to be doing with his fame (to the extent that he is famous.. and his frequent criticisms of Jaime Diamond and some of the insider banking baloney that Keiser has some decently good insider knowledge on those kinds of topics which are also directionally correct, even if sometimes exaggerated).  So in some sense both bitcoin and El Salvador are underdogs that need defending.. and in that sense, I have no problems with Keiser to the extent that you believe that he might have made some incredible statements that you have not exactly outlined in such a way that I find to be lacking in credit in the whole scheme of things.


Even though his speech was a little bit short (right around 20 minutes), I do think that he made a lot of good pro-bitcoiner points coming from a politician (or politician wannabe).

His voice is a bit scratchy.. and hopefully he will be able to give a lot of speeches in his proposed ongoing presidential campaign.. that could end up lasting a year and a half... if he can last for that whole duration as a candidate.

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Robert F Kennedy Jr Keynote - Bitcoin 2023
https://youtu.be/fz7FPl065II

Robert F Kennedy says all of the right things about freedom and Bitcoin, but he's a politician.  what do you think?

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Yes you have reason in what you said, i tooked some good info and facts he give in the past, im not saying all he say its a nonsense, but a long time ago, like in 2017 i think, i heard him a lot, and in sometime he start to say some things that are lies, or really not correct, i dont remember now what were that things, im talking about.

But was something like (im gonna invent), in Chicago the cost of the energy its 5 usd per Kw/h, and you live in Chicago and the cost of the energy its 2 usd per Kw/h. And it wasnt only one time i catched him saying this kind of things, so.....

But after that i cant recover my trust in him. So i hear what he say but i try to took what it can be true.

Bitcoin needs no loyalty.  It's just an invention... Would you say you are loyal to the electric grid? Or loyal to roads, trains or to your washing machine?  
Either people use it for their own advantage or not

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Those who are trying to free bitcoin from ordinals/inscriptions are likely the ones with the problem (failure/refusal to accept bitcoin for what it is)... and having a kind of Roger Ver psychosis to want to change bitcoin into something that it is not.

"Poor widdo me.  I cannot get 1 sat per vbyte on chain anymore."

 


The last time I checked, dee cornz is not dependent upon the words and/or prognostications of any one man or a group of men (or even women), even a possible nostradamus wannabe(s).


Yes.. there are a lot of people like that.

Seeming to wait for Armageddon.. and to even plan their futures in such a way, and you likely need to consider how much weight to give such statements, and giving them zero weight might not be the right play, either.


You don't need to believe everything Keiser says in order to find some value in it.

Yeah sure he is a bit of a drama queen (king) sometimes, and sure some people think that he needs too much attention, yet he seems to be directionally correct about quite a bit.... even though I sometimes have seen him exaggerate in ways that I find a bit problematic.. yet in the end, it's difficult to expect people to have to fit some kind of a form or a style in order to be "acceptable" and you seem to be more bothered by his style rather than his content.. when you are merely saying that "sometimes he is not right."... Yeah, right..    If you had not noticed, most of us are not exactly right a large amount of the time when we are trying to describe where we are at based on the past and attempting to figure out and to suggest where we might be going from here.

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I think maxkeiser makes more harm than good to the BTC, because in the last years he said a lot of things that never comes in reality or it were really biased.

He its now more like a doomer or something like " the collapse its coming, the collapse its coming" for several years and that never happen. And yes in some moment its gonna happen its a rule of life and the entropy itself,  but you cant be always mongering that without any good clue, or event to support your narrative.

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Stick to it... This guy is enjoying a world tour after getting the feedback looks like we need to have the same determination while talking and guiding about Bitcoin. In fact, we should force people to have such determination it will greatly help us to be more loyal to Bitcoin. Then the product will be ordinals free.

Interesting announcement.


Not a bad idea, especially if you believe that you are able to sustain yourself and to do something that you like, you are interested in, and likely to continue to change the world (more than it already has done).


Yeah.. when coming to think of it, I frequently would suggest that number of half of a percent of the world into bitcoin, and it seems that even that half of a percent might be a generous estimate.

Surely we are still early when it comes to adoption as a networking effect... and surely there is also asymetric information going on for a lot of the bitcoin naysayers and for an overwhelming number of the population who are ongoingly negative about bitcoin...

Sucks to be a no coiner who is also a naysayer like uie-pooie seem to be FinePoine0..

Hopefully you gots ur lil selfie a few coins in case it catches on.. but hey.. whatever, if you prefer to chase the train at a later date, then no problem, that's your choice...

guys/gals like you will figure it out sooner or later, and whether you end up kicking yourself or not is likely another question that you currently feel you are not going to need to address..

That's how overly self-righteous folks tend to be.

Go figure?


Yes... if you got rid of that question mark, you might start to get upon the right path, but hey whatever, you do you.  Maybe the BTC price will go down from here, and you can tell us: "I told you so."   hahahahaha

Have you gone out for coffees yet with your best bro? eXPHorizon


There are likely ways that people are able to monetize their devotion to something like bitcoin, especially if you actual realize that bitcoin has a "monetary" component to it...

Hadn't you noticed?


I don't know about that.

When I was a baby, I was especially good at sucking my thumb, but I did not develop that skill.

Last time that I checked, skills can be learned, refined and even discovered.. interests are similar, even though sometimes we might be able to identify what might be longer standing interests, but we are not always going to know the extent to which we might grow (or age) out of some of our earlier-in-life interests.


If you had not realized, bitcoin touches upon a lot of theoretical and practical areas, and you do not even necessarily need to know how to code software in order to get involved or to be involved in bitcoin.

Go figure?

Who would-a thunk?


Speak for yourself.

Bitcoin does not take away from other interests that people might already have or develop, but there might be some kinds of interests (or even currently economically viable) areas of the economy that become less viable and/or less practical because of bitcoin..

If you are a young person then maybe it is more important to identify those areas, and if you are already established in a career, there likely would be a variety of considerations if a  career change (or even retraining) might be considered as plausible, practicable and/or even prudent.

There are a lot of people who hardly even have any clue about what is bitcoin, even though they think that they do and there are even other people who are not sure if they know about bitcoin, even though they have heard the word.. maybe even several times.


I am starting to consider that you, sirazimuth, might be devolving and spiraling into a bit of a lost cause.  I am not sure if you can be saved from ur lil selfie.. yet.. since I am kind of a nice guy like that...  "we" might need to consider to provide you with one more chance to redeem ur lil selfie..

Accordingly, I am thinking that perhaps if you were to go to a chalk board, and write something like:  

"I will only talk about bitcoin, dee cornz, my lil precious, king daddy, lillie fiends, honey badger and/or other appropriate references in the Wall Observer thread"  

This might possibly start to work to cure (distract) you so long as you write such phraseology 21 million times, and you might ask: "why 21 million times?," and I might well suggest that you get the fuck started writing and ponder away regarding such answer in the months and years to come.  

That'll keep you busy until at least 2025...

Just saying.