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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 20255. (Read 26706689 times)

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awww jorge, 'tis lovely when you actually make sense . . .



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I don't have enough knowledge of the field to look for bugs.  However, the paper has been circulated for a month or so, at least, and was presented at the Monteral scaling conference.  So, if there are bugs, they must not be very obvious.

On the other hand, it is hard to foresee all the bad things that could happen in systems that that include human elements.  One example of a problem that was not quite foreseen when bitcoin was designed is the extreme concentration of bitcoin mining (with 54% of the hashrate now in the hands three Chinese pools).  The protocol becoming the property of a single company was another.  The fast price rise (that made the block reward be worth ~$8/tx) was yet another.  

So, who knows what failure modes the "NG" blockchain coudl have.

Anyway, I see little chance that the proposal will be implemented in bitcoin.  There is already too much software developed out there that assumes the current design.  Implementing a change of that magnitude would be like swimming in molasses.  Maybe some altcoin will adopt the idea.
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Crash over, China going green.

Bitstamp does not seem to be done dumping, yet. 

I think we gotta wait for Bitstamp to be done dumping, before we can declare that we are in green territory.  no?
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That caught me off guard. I wasn't expecting any big moves today and definitely not that China would synchronize it's price with USD markets.
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Thank you for cheap  Bitcoins, Bears!!  Cheesy

You shouldn't thank the bears, but the piglets... Bears provided some support when closing shorts...

just thank DWR.
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Thank you for cheap  Bitcoins, Bears!!  Cheesy

You shouldn't thank the bears, but the piglets... Bears provided some support when closing shorts...
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Anyone with a bit of a deeper network and cryptography knowledge care to comment on this technical proposal:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitcoin-ng-or-how-cornell-researchers-think-a-radical-redesign-can-solve-bitcoin-s-scaling-issues-1447108649

Basic idea seems to be to decouple proof of work blocks from transactions blocks (while keeping the two connected, obviously), without the usual trade off that means more tx -> bigger blocks.

Looks plausible to me, and actually a lot less "radical" than, say, turning Bitcoin into a proof-of-stake system. That said, I don't have sufficient technical knowledge to judge if it only appears plausible at a glance or if there's a catch I don't see right now.

(... he asked on the Wall Observer thread, thinking "What could possibly go wrong?")

I don't have enough knowledge of the field to look for bugs.  However, the paper has been circulated for a month or so, at least, and was presented at the Monteral scaling conference.  So, if there are bugs, they must not be very obvious.

On the other hand, it is hard to foresee all the bad things that could happen in systems that that include human elements.  One example of a problem that was not quite foreseen when bitcoin was designed is the extreme concentration of bitcoin mining (with 54% of the hashrate now in the hands three Chinese pools).  The protocol becoming the property of a single company was another.  The fast price rise (that made the block reward be worth ~$8/tx) was yet another.  

So, who knows what failure modes the "NG" blockchain coudl have.

Anyway, I see little chance that the proposal will be implemented in bitcoin.  There is already too much software developed out there that assumes the current design.  Implementing a change of that magnitude would be like swimming in molasses.  Maybe some altcoin will adopt the idea.
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Crash over, China going green.
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Thank you for cheap  Bitcoins, Bears!!  Cheesy
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Shorts are piling in (@Finex). How much do we need for the potential up move?

What kind of idiot would short after that massive sell off? lol
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I'm disappointed, the western exchanges didn't follow China as I hoped for, so I decided to close my short at 357$,
now if this drops to 340$ I'll have a reason to rant... So far, the bullish scenario has been weakened, but not invalidated.
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I am long ltc/btc, lets see how this turns out  Grin
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No maps for these territories
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now BTC-e is the leading exchange site  Grin
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Shorts are piling in (@Finex). How much do we need for the potential up move?
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No maps for these territories
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is crypto done??  Huh

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I just want to say there is no way this is going any lower

Yea, whenever you see some guy market dumping 1000 coins at once, it's oversold and the bottom is reached.  China is lower than the US now, so this is definitely the bottom.

edit: nevermind, they were lower for like 10 seconds.
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