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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 20462. (Read 26707027 times)

legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
If Core can't find a way to scale the network with a reasonable amount of safety and security in TWO YEARS, then they are incompetent and need to make way for better developers. 

How much time is a reasonable amount of time for you?  I really want to know. Give me an actual number.

That is a pretty bold statement about solving a non-trivial computer science problem.  I'm sure your patches will be accepted if you have a solution.

I think the problem is that you assume that increasing the blocksize fixes the problem.

I imagine a future where all manner of services that are currently ad-supported or subscription-based might instead be payed for with bitcoin microtransactions, seamlessly and transparently.  There could be millions, or maybe even billions of transactions per day from all these page views/minutes of video/etc. - vastly more than even Visa handles at peak capacity.  And add to that all the microtransactions that might be generated by devices on the Internet of Things, that none of us know the extent or nature of yet.

I don't see how increasing blocksize will handle this.  Even data-center sized nodes may not be able to handle all those microtransactions.

I don't claim to know what the answer is, but I am pretty sure that block-size alone won't do it - and lurching down that path in a non-judicious way could lead to permanent problems that will be painful to work around in the long term, after a real solution is found.

I'm certain blocksize alone WON'T fix all scaling problems, but it would buy us time. All it would take right now is a doubling of transactions to crash the network.  This problem was important, but now it's urgent as well. A doubling is well withing the realm of possibility in mere months and is approaching the probable. 

Creating a market for transaction fees needs to happen AFTER we reach mainstream adoption or we will never reach it. Yahoo mail, Facebook, Google all knew not to monetize too early.  That's why they're still around. I hope we'll be around when billions of cryto microtransactions becomes an issue.

I don't really think that the people resisting block-size increase are just interested in creating a transaction-fee market.

I don't work for Blockstream, nor am I a Core developer - but even I can see that there is potentially a heavy price to be paid (in terms of Bitcoin decentralization) if we rush head-long down the path of block-size for scaling - and this could turn out to be a mistake that can't be undone, AND one that does not really solve the problem in the long-term.

I don't see the urgency you do for raising blocksize right now.  Full blocks are still uncommon (except during "stress-tests").



We want users now, we plan to let them join in 3 months stalling block size growth because we dont want centralized nodes 20 years from now is damaging bitcoin - its myopic.  If we hit a growth spurt like in 2013 well see a minimum of 10X transaction growth and the fee pressure will increase disproportionately, limited transaction volume will push feed over $1.00 in value for the smallest transactions. Fees will kill the competitive advantage bitcoin is offering.

small blockests think the fee should be around $7. We the users are paying for low fees by subsidizing miners with inflation of 25BTC every 10 minus. we need economics of scale - more users to reduce fess as inflation subsidies diminish.  Centralization is a concern, but we have 90% of nodes running centralized code the number is actually irrelevant when the code changes are controlled by a centralized few who believe bitcoin can't scale and want to change it to accommodate off block chain transactions. 
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
she: what are you doing honey?

me: just checkin the charts...

she: that´s what you are always doing!

me: this time it´s different...

 Cheesy

hahaha exactly the same over here

Also here hahaha.

Ditto Smiley

I saw she was annoyed, so I told her what I made today.

"How the [expletive deleted] did that happen?"
full member
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
Wait for China to woke up (3 more hours) and this thing is going to get very mad.

if china wakes up, and they have a lot of bitcoin that they bought yesterday, or even friday, and see the price this high, they might actually sell some of it, which might actually drop the price.

at least for the first few hours.
There will also be buttloads of fiat hitting exchanges on Tuesday so there will be buying pressure too.I'm guessing the chinese will postpone their profit taking for at least a couple of days.Especially when the orderbooks are this thin, ask side.  
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
i don't think this is over yet ... the way the pullbacks are so orderly, it is like the endless dumps, in reverse ... endless pumps only interrupted by slow moves sideways to up ... i know how the shorts must feel, it's awful  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
How is trollfi explaining this one?

Has the MMM ponzi also reached finex & stamp  Huh

He is preparing another retarded post...
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
How is trollfi explaining this one?

Has the MMM ponzi also reached finex & stamp  Huh

Forget Stolfi!

Remember this guy: http://www.businessinsider.com/williams-bitcoin-meltdown-10-2013-12
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000
she: what are you doing honey?

me: just checkin the charts...

she: that´s what you are always doing!

me: this time it´s different...

 Cheesy

hahaha exactly the same over here

Also here hahaha.

Ditto Smiley
hero member
Activity: 737
Merit: 500
Already down ~$10 from 363 high and selling pressure is continuing. Not sure whose gonna run out of ammo first at this point, the bulls or the bears

Nerve wracking stuff, this one hourly candle is quite the fight

Are you a newbie or what?

Oh, you are...  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
How is trollfi explaining this one?

Has the MMM ponzi also reached finex & stamp  Huh

trolfi is counting his 'academic' bitcoin profits in fast devaluing brazilian Reals ... waiting out the collapse in well-protected gubmint fiat
hero member
Activity: 748
Merit: 500
she: what are you doing honey?

me: just checkin the charts...

she: that´s what you are always doing!

me: this time it´s different...

 Cheesy

lol so hard  Grin
full member
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
There are only 4k coins left on Bitfinex's orderbook and after that it's anyone's guess. Imagine this scenario we have today, but after the "halvening".
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1016
she: what are you doing honey?

me: just checkin the charts...

she: that´s what you are always doing!

me: this time it´s different...

 Cheesy


Happening right here too!!!!
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Wait for China to woke up (3 more hours) and this thing is going to get very mad.

if china wakes up, and they have a lot of bitcoin that they bought yesterday, or even friday, and see the price this high, they might actually sell some of it, which might actually drop the price.

at least for the first few hours.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
How is trollfi explaining this one?

Has the MMM ponzi also reached finex & stamp  Huh
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
Many people with paper profits.. much euphoria ...!  This time it is different!
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
I nearly passed out when I checked the price. I've been so busy today I haven't really looked.


So.......what the hell is happening???
'Murica grew some bigger bawwlz

she: what are you doing honey?

me: just checkin the charts...

she: that´s what you are always doing!

me: this time it´s different...

 Cheesy
"See this little green thingy right here? That's your shopping spree being covered."


i dont know what you are smoking but china is at CNY 2345 right now (about $370) while USA is only at $350

you're still way behind, step up your game.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1022
she: what are you doing honey?

me: just checkin the charts...

she: that´s what you are always doing!

me: this time it´s different...

 Cheesy

hahaha exactly the same over here

Also here hahaha.
hero member
Activity: 681
Merit: 507
she: what are you doing honey?

me: just checkin the charts...

she: that´s what you are always doing!

me: this time it´s different...

 Cheesy

hahaha exactly the same over here
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 531
Crypto is King.
I nearly passed out when I checked the price. I've been so busy today I haven't really looked.


So.......what the hell is happening???
'Murica grew some bigger bawwlz

she: what are you doing honey?

me: just checkin the charts...

she: that´s what you are always doing!

me: this time it´s different...

 Cheesy
"See this little green thingy right here? That's your shopping spree being covered."
legendary
Activity: 2833
Merit: 1851
In order to dump coins one must have coins
The finex BTC6k short still hasn't been covered. Ask side looks very thin need more coins on exchanges or this can go full retard  Shocked
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