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Imagine the thousands of people that commit suicide when the Social Security ponzi scheme collapses.

That is true.  When the bankers forced Italy to cut pensions, there were two or three pensioner suicides per day. And the same thing occurred in Greece, when it was their turn.

Many millions died in WW! and in WW!!. And many in the bubonic plague epidemics of the middle ages, and many of the Spanish infuenza. 

... So? Dos that make scams less obectionable?

How many ponzi schemes were build on dollars? The original scam by  Charles Ponzi was based on stamps. Are stamps bad? You can't blame Bitcoin for the actions of the people who use it. It's a tool that can be used for good or evil.

Bitcoin makes the MMM scam global and more difficult to stop (and adds bitcoin's own pyramid on top of it). 

The Russian government was almost useless in stopping Sergei's previous Russian scam, but it did eventually put him in jail for a couple of years.  Now that he uses bitcoins, who is going to catch and prosecute him? How can his gains be confiscated and returned to the victims?

It's hilarious Stolfi is trying to claim Bitcoin is rising due to a Russian criminal that's running some kind of Ponzi scam.  The scam doesn't even have anything to do with Bitcoin, he just accepts Bitcoin as payment, and it's already existed for like 3 years.

I don't know for how long he has been accepting bitcoin; but I only heard of it now.  From the pages that I have seen, the scam is now called "Republic of Bitcoin" and only uses bitcoin. 

If it has always been like that, Itshould have been mentioned in the forums before. Was it?

I did see mention of a South African pyramid scam that at some point told its members to send bitcoins to the organizers with some excuse.  (I don't know how it ended; an exit scam was expected), But I don't recall any mention of it being connected to Sergei.

As I noted, Sergei's previous scams moved 10 billion dollars, which is 2.5 times bitcoin's entire market cap; and that was actual money, whereas the market cap is only an accounting fiction.  At one point, the scam turned 50 million USD per day, or 50 times the bitcoin miners' revenue.  So, a ponzi on that scale, that requires people to buy bitcoin in order to play, could easily explain this rise, and more.

Bobby lee of BTC-China was the first to attribute the surge in Chinese trading volume to some pyramid scam that used bitcoin; although he did not refer to MMM specifically. 


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there is no resistance on the way up to 2000 cny. we are going to chooo chooo mf! Cheesy
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You link to something from 2012 then claim it's the cause of the BTC rise now when you would have to be completely brain dead to believe that.

Sergey ran several iterations of the MMM ponzi, this is a new one. ...giving you an opportunity to get in on the ground floor.  MMM is gonna happen with or without you, so buy now or cry later.
I'm all in and accumulating every chance I get.

Just went to the store and bought a case of MMs. I'm gonna dump them before the scheme crashes. When do you think that will happen?

Did you mean M&M's? Because that funny joke!
No, MMM Republic of Bitcoin to providing you with astounding passive income while make strong political statement, like Bitcoin.

 --Sereja
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Sunday is the day when all random slobs wake up and look at the BTC price once per week and say, "wtf, is this shit going to the moon? do I need to buy now? omg mortgaging house"
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Volume in BUY is ... awesome.

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You link to something from 2012 then claim it's the cause of the BTC rise now when you would have to be completely brain dead to believe that.

Sergey ran several iterations of the MMM ponzi, this is a new one. ...giving you an opportunity to get in on the ground floor.  MMM is gonna happen with or without you, so buy now or cry later.
I'm all in and accumulating every chance I get.

Just went to the store and bought a case of MMs. I'm gonna dump them before the scheme crashes. When do you think that will happen?
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1910 yuans at OKCOIN and increasing slowly.

the day is the bitcoin day.
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Imagine the thousands of people that commit suicide when the Social Security ponzi scheme collapses.
As a bitcoin entrepreneur, I'm not willing to patiently wait for that happy day.
We must all do our part: Bitcoin has already enabled us to steal from the elderly Smiley
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What the hell is going on? I woke up, switched on my computer, checked bitcoinwisdom and I couldn't believe the charts I was seeing.
Any specific trigger the last few hours? Is the space ship finally taking off?  Cheesy Wink
No no of course this is great but let's see how far it goes.I learned not to get too excited over the last year.I hope the baby is not going up full throttle.3rd gear would be ok for now.

If the rise is indeed due to MMM's "Republic of Bitcoin" ponzi, it may continue for a while, unfortunately. Mavrodi's previous scams are estimated to have moved 10 billion dollars.  Turnout was 50 million dollars per day at one point -- 50 times what bitcoin miners are sucking from bitcoin buyers at present. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company)

Something tells me that the Bitcoin Alliance, created to cleanse bitcoin space from criminals and scammers, will pretend not to see that one.

By the way, note that 50 people committed suicide when MMM finally collapsed.

Imagine the thousands of people that commit suicide when the Social Security ponzi scheme collapses.
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You link to something from 2012 then claim it's the cause of the BTC rise now when you would have to be completely brain dead to believe that.

Sergey ran several iterations of the MMM ponzi, this is a new one. ...giving you an opportunity to get in on the ground floor.  MMM is gonna happen with or without you, so buy now or cry later.
I'm all in and accumulating every chance I get.
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True, MMM ponzi only uses BTC, Just like the Bitcoin ponzi itself.
And Bitcointalk.org also promotes MMM, see here,
It's turtles all the way down Smiley

You link to something from 2012 then claim it's the cause of the BTC rise now when you would have to be completely brain dead to believe that.  Better luck with your next conspiracy theory and have fun with your failed short at $250.  I bet you're staring at the screen sweating right now lol.
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It's hilarious Stolfi is trying to claim Bitcoin is rising due to a Russian criminal that's running some kind of Ponzi scam.  The scam doesn't even have anything to do with Bitcoin, he just accepts Bitcoin as payment

True, MMM ponzi only uses BTC, Just like the Bitcoin ponzi itself.
And Bitcointalk.org also promotes MMM, see here, for instance.
It's turtles all the way down Smiley
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It's like trying to claim the price of Bitcoin is going up because of Tai Lopez:

It's my understanding that Sergey Mavrodi's last MMM ponzi had stolen more money than Bitcoin Network has (or 'the Bitcoin market cap,' as that's euphemistically called).
So yeah, relevant Smiley

@Feri22: I probably sold you your first bitcoin, show some respect.
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You can't blame Bitcoin for the actions of the people who use it. ...

You can't blame Beanie Babies for the Beanie miracle. But you can laugh, heartily, at the intrepid Beanie investors.

Haha, you stupid troll

I understand that truth hurts, Feri22, but



Stupid little troll... Tongue don't be upset you didn't buy btc earlier
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In my final attempt to quell the rally I just bought with whatever spare change I could find.  It's been a couple of months since I last checked the couch.  This is in preparation for fresh fiat arriving the end of this week.

When be the correction?
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It's hilarious Stolfi is trying to claim Bitcoin is rising due to a Russian criminal that's running some kind of Ponzi scam.  The scam doesn't even have anything to do with Bitcoin, he just accepts Bitcoin as payment, and it's already existed for like 3 years.  You need a sub 80 IQ to even click on them.  In other words, this guy has absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin price:



It's like trying to claim the price of Bitcoin is going up because of Tai Lopez:

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How many people committed suicide (or were thrown back into abject, inescapable poverty) when the Brazilian command and control fiat monetary system last collapsed (for the umpteenth time in a row)??

Bible predicts that 1/3 of mankind will perish in famine, war and disease when the U.S. fiat money ends.

You should probably be careful with dragging God and his Mexican carpenter buddy into this.

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You can't blame Bitcoin for the actions of the people who use it. ...

You can't blame Beanie Babies for the Beanie miracle. But you can laugh, heartily, at the intrepid Beanie investors.

Haha, you stupid troll

I understand that truth hurts, Feri22, but

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