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Quote from: Peter R on August 22, 2015, 09:22:45 PM

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on August 22, 2015, 08:55:24 PM

Somebody is launching a shitload of XT nodes all on VPS hosting, the next step in the saga.

What makes you believe it is one person? What makes you believe they are using VPS hosting?

Could it not be people waiting till the weekend to have the time to make the switch?

agreed

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Quote from: adamstgBit on August 22, 2015, 09:13:24 PM

XT now at 3 blocks out of every 1000 blocks

i got a BBBBAAADDD feeling about this

long way to 750 Grin

but I think its coming like it or not... maybe not....

first its 1 then 3 then 6 then 12 then 24 then 48 then 96 then 192 then 384 and then well then we're all fucked by the CIA while we profit from ~~500$~~ 32,000$ XTCoins

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Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on August 22, 2015, 08:55:24 PM

Somebody is launching a shitload of XT nodes all on VPS hosting, the next step in the saga.

What makes you believe it is one person? What makes you believe they are using VPS hosting?

Could it not be people waiting till the weekend to have the time to make the switch?

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Quote from: adamstgBit on August 22, 2015, 09:13:24 PM

XT now at 3 blocks out of every 1000 blocks

i got a BBBBAAADDD feeling about this

long way to 750 Grin

but I think its coming like it or not... maybe not....

Any other pools allowing mining with new version outside of Slushs pool?

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Quote from: adamstgBit on August 22, 2015, 09:13:24 PM

XT now at 3 blocks out of every 1000 blocks

i got a BBBBAAADDD feeling about this

Unless Core devs work on something out QUICKLY, this will be a disaster by all means.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on August 22, 2015, 09:13:24 PM

XT now at 3 blocks out of every 1000 blocks

i got a BBBBAAADDD feeling about this

75% of mined blocks is what matters not nodes correct?

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XT now at 3 blocks out of every 1000 blocks

i got a BBBBAAADDD feeling about this

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Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on August 22, 2015, 08:55:24 PM

Somebody is launching a shitload of XT nodes all on VPS hosting, the next step in the saga. Surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Are they the dreaded masquerading XT nodes beginning a false flag attack?

Never a dull moment.

https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/?page=1&q=/Bitcoin%20XT:0.11.0/

Well, I guess there are some dull moments, but still...

Yes I noticed that a little over an hour ago and has been climbing ever since,,, Wonder what's up with that. Huh

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Somebody is launching a shitload of XT nodes all on VPS hosting, the next step in the saga. Surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Are they the dreaded masquerading XT nodes beginning a false flag attack?

Never a dull moment.

https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/?page=1&q=/Bitcoin%20XT:0.11.0/

Well, I guess there are some dull moments, but still...

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Quote from: cbeast on August 22, 2015, 08:16:42 PM

This is no longer a problem, it it s a crisis. It it continues to be unresolved, it will eventually become an existential crisis. We cannot afford to wait for the BIP process to play out. There is a significant chance that it won't play out and not deciding is deciding on a bottleneck in capacity that will inevitably clog the network entirely. No doubt there are some people who desire that exact outcome and they are exploiting this technological, political and ideological split. Gox is nothing compared to this. We are approaching our darkest hour.

There are not just two camps in this war. There are the The cripplecoiners, the scaleforkers and the haterz. The haterz do not want any consensus to ever be reached. They have been around since I got here in 2011. They now see their opportunity, and I can't for the life of me see how to stop them.

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Quote from: BlackSpidy on August 22, 2015, 08:09:57 PM

Quote from: ImI on August 22, 2015, 06:55:57 PM

2MB is the way to go.

I would rather see 10 MB blocks, to be honest. And a reliable, automatic block size increase that is based on facts and maths and stuff.
And to whoever is posting with the noob accounts, bitcoin has died over 70 times*! And all it ever does is come back harder, better, faster, stronger.

Gavin successfully tested 20MB. 8MB would make tps 3*8=24 which is still laughable compared to PayPal's approximately 130 tps, but it's still progress.

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I would like to test the effects of Blocksize increases first by doing smaller steps. An self-adjusting algorithm would have to be safe in terms of manipulation.

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Quote from: ImI on August 22, 2015, 06:55:57 PM

2MB is the way to go.

I would rather see 10 MB blocks, to be honest. And a reliable, automatic block size increase that is based on facts and maths and stuff.
And to whoever is posting with the noob accounts, bitcoin has died over 70 times*! And all it ever does is come back harder, better, faster, stronger.

*(http://bitcoinobituaries.com/)

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Core up, Bitcoin price down.

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Quote from: shmadz on August 22, 2015, 07:38:22 PM

Quote from: ImI on August 22, 2015, 06:55:57 PM

2MB is the way to go.

I've heard that there is a change needed before they could implement side chains that would require a hard fork, and also an increase in the block size.

I would expect that the block steam guys are working towards a proposal that does both in one shot.

If the increase in the size of the blocks required is negligible (less than 2mb) and this results in being able to freeze* the code and continue all changes as sidechains, I think it might have a chance at gaining high enough consensus to actually become adopted.

* of course you would still need to maintain the code, which is what wladimir does, but you would not need any more contentious forks as you could do whatever you like on sidechains.

What is the probability of this, shmadz ?

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Quote from: ImI on August 22, 2015, 06:55:57 PM

2MB is the way to go.

I've heard that there is a change needed before they could implement side chains that would require a hard fork, and also an increase in the block size.

I would expect that the block steam guys are working towards a proposal that does both in one shot.

If the increase in the size of the blocks required is negligible (less than 2mb) and this results in being able to freeze* the code and continue all changes as sidechains, I think it might have a chance at gaining high enough consensus to actually become adopted.

* of course you would still need to maintain the code, which is what wladimir does, but you would not need any more contentious forks as you could do whatever you like on sidechains.

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Quote from: hdbuck on August 22, 2015, 10:13:57 AM

Quote from: cbeast on August 22, 2015, 10:02:49 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 22, 2015, 09:32:59 AM

if Core implements the smallest block size increase, BOOM XT is history and the network will upgrade right away.

Bitcoin XT is not a thing that can go away because it's the idea that the free market is stronger than politics. The BIP Congress is gridlocked, but the market wants progress. Maybe it won't be the blocksize next time. The BIP Congress better get its shit together or some altcoin is gonna leave Bitcoin in the grease pit forever.

Free Markets is not so free. It is subject to manipulations just as any other market.

Core devs are way more qualified to weight any upgrade and especially those that so drastically changes bitcoin's fondamentales. They should not be subject to any propaganda.

Their consensus was status quo. If you dont like it please feel free to move on to some other altcoin.