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About 12% of nodes are running XT with zero blocks mined.

13% and 2 blocks mined.

http://xtnodes.com/

https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/

Have you got the data for how many of those are nodes that have switched rather than new nodes ?  Wink

You can tell by the split on this that they're just not going to get 75%. Aint going to happen.

There are people with more economic power to thwart a change to XT than people who support it.



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About 12% of nodes are running XT with zero blocks mined.

13% and 2 blocks mined.

http://xtnodes.com/

https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/

A miner's ultimate incentive is the block reward which requires the survival and adoption of Bitcoin so that the reward can actually be worth something. A solution that causes investors to panic and devalue Bitcoin is not one that they would logically adopt.

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Does Gavin still visit this forum?
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About 12% of nodes are running XT with zero blocks mined.

13% and 2 blocks mined.

http://xtnodes.com/

https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/

A miner's ultimate incentive is the block reward which requires the survival and adoption of Bitcoin so that the reward can actually be worth something. A solution that causes investors to panic and devalue Bitcoin is not one that they would logically adopt.
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can we have a sort of crowdfunding to pay core devs? like "put your money where your mouth is"? where is the Bitcoin Foundation when you really need them?

Bitcoin Foundation was the first attempt by Gavin at hijacking and centralizing Bitcoin development under his reign. They can stay in the dirt where they currently rest

dont forget Hearn was Chair of the Foundations Law & Policy committeeTM  Cheesy

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mike-hearn-foundations-law-policy-chair-is-pushing-blacklists-right-now-333824
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can we have a sort of crowdfunding to pay core devs? like "put your money where your mouth is"? where is the Bitcoin Foundation when you really need them?

Bitcoin Foundation was the first attempt by Gavin at hijacking and centralizing Bitcoin development under his reign. They can stay in the dirt where they currently rest
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indeed, if you don't trust Mike and Gavin's XT code, but (for some unfathomable reason) you do trust Adam and Greg's Core, and Wladimir, Jorge, Pieter, Matt, Todd, Mark and all the others

You pathetic pathological lying POS

These developers are listed on Blockstream's "Team" page: Adam Back (President), Greg Maxwell, Pieter Wuille, Matt Corallo, Mark Friedenbach, Rusty Russell, Patrick "Intersango" Strateman, Jorge Timón, and Glen Willen. There may be others. Luke "Tonal" Jr works for Blockstream as contractor. Peter Todd works half-time for Viacoin, an altcoin that claims to be bitcoin done right -- e.g. with 25 times faster confirms.

Who is paying Wladimir's salary now?

Who's paying Mike's or Gavin's? You think these two are free from conflict of interest?

What really matters is you trolls still haven't been able to put forward a legitimate case of Blockstream benefitting from small blocks that doesn't rely on pure conjecture or total inability to grasp what it is they are doing.

I think your hijacking this tread too. (I'm sorry theymos closed down the thread where this debate was happening, some times when the truth is a treat authoritarian interests have to silence it and delete posts.) 

I will not let misinformation stand uncorrected  Smiley
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Advice: Just think of XT as a security valve. If the core deadlock continues, the miners will opt out Wink

And leave Bitcoin in the hands of "benevolent" dictator Mike Hearn and his blacklists? Sure...  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin XT is the only viable implementation of BIP 101, that is the only reason miners and node hosts are switching, if you had been paying attention this debate it about avoiding dictatorships not supporting them.

Mile knows as well as you that fungibility (no black green or red lists) is essential for bitcoin to succeed as money, he discussed an idea and yes I agree with you, that he even entertained the idea is a little disturbing.  

if he is as clueless as you it will be much easier to not employ his changes than it is to improve bitcoin with BIP101.  

You're not seeing things very clearly. Maybe ask your bro cypherdoc for an eye check?

1. There are no miners switching.
2. This political coup is precisely an attempt to establish a "benevolent" dictatorship over the governance of Bitcoin

Mike knows went further than "entertaining" the idea he implemented it in hundreds of line of codes being run right now by XT nodes (code that was reviewed and approved by Gavin btw).

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About 12% of nodes are running XT with zero blocks mined.

If this number doesn't start rising XT will be DOA, Bitcoin will have worked as intended, and Gavin/Mike will have egg on their face for unnecessarily causing a rift and spooking the market.

I support a block size increase but not something as contentious as XT. There has to be a better solution.

Personally I think this will blow over soon and better solutions will be found.
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I will provide my signature if someone will make a vote campaign for the one and only real Bitcoin core client.
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let them have their fork, and then good riddance of them retards whilst sane people would keep bitcoin core.
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can we have a sort of crowdfunding to pay core devs? like "put your money where your mouth is"? where is the Bitcoin Foundation when you really need them?
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US Postal Service didn't go bankrupt because, unlike Bitcoin, it is "an independent agency of the United States federal government responsible for providing postal service in the United States."  It's a government agency, like FBI and CIA.
Though the importance of USPS has decreased drastically over the years. Let's not send Bitcoin down that road.

There are like 150-200 countries in the world, and each one has its own postal service, so it's not relevant whether the USPS is an agency like FBI and CIA, because most countries don't really have an FBI and a CIA. Where I live, postal services are regarded as something close to a utility company. They just provide a basic service to the people, like the water company or the telcos.


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You understand that by saying that, you place BTC in the same category as Beanie Babies.  The thing about the value of collectibles is it fluctuates wildly, and the same Beanie that was worth thousands one day is worth $5 now.  Prophetic?

Works of art, collectible coins of certain age and high quality, rare antiques etc etc, always go up in value and they definitely don't fall over a cliff overnight.

Now, beanie babies, that's a different story altogether.
 
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"By necessity"?  Why?

Because some parameters, when adjusted either way, work as a tradeoff. You gain something, you lose something else.

I can gain more tx/s, but I'll lose in terms of decentralization, people accepting to join Bitcoin by downloading the client, etc etc.

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Not sure what you mean.

I mean that the price per KB that we are currently paying, will seem absurdly low in a couple of years. It will also seem absurd that we were allowing dust transactions to take place and bloat the database at virtually no cost.
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indeed, if you don't trust Mike and Gavin's XT code, but (for some unfathomable reason) you do trust Adam and Greg's Core, and Wladimir, Jorge, Pieter, Matt, Todd, Mark and all the others

You pathetic pathological lying POS

These developers are listed on Blockstream's "Team" page: Adam Back (President), Greg Maxwell, Pieter Wuille, Matt Corallo, Mark Friedenbach, Rusty Russell, Patrick "Intersango" Strateman, Jorge Timón, and Glen Willen. There may be others. Luke "Tonal" Jr works for Blockstream as contractor. Peter Todd works half-time for Viacoin, an altcoin that claims to be bitcoin done right -- e.g. with 25 times faster confirms.

Who is paying Wladimir's salary now?

Who's paying Mike's or Gavin's? You think these two are free from conflict of interest?

What really matters is you trolls still haven't been able to put forward a legitimate case of Blockstream benefitting from small blocks that doesn't rely on pure conjecture or total inability to grasp what it is they are doing.

I think your hijacking this tread too. (I'm sorry theymos closed down the thread where this debate was happening, some times when the truth is a treat authoritarian interests have to silence it and delete posts.) 
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indeed, if you don't trust Mike and Gavin's XT code, but (for some unfathomable reason) you do trust Adam and Greg's Core, and Wladimir, Jorge, Pieter, Matt, Todd, Mark and all the others

You pathetic pathological lying POS

These developers are listed on Blockstream's "Team" page: Adam Back (President), Greg Maxwell, Pieter Wuille, Matt Corallo, Mark Friedenbach, Rusty Russell, Patrick "Intersango" Strateman, Jorge Timón, and Glen Willen. There may be others. Luke "Tonal" Jr works for Blockstream as contractor. Peter Todd works half-time for Viacoin, an altcoin that claims to be bitcoin done right -- e.g. with 25 times faster confirms.

Who is paying Wladimir's salary now?

Who's paying Mike's or Gavin's? You think these two are free from conflict of interest?

What really matters is you trolls still haven't been able to put forward a legitimate case of Blockstream benefitting from small blocks that doesn't rely on pure conjecture or total inability to grasp what it is they are doing.
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indeed, if you don't trust Mike and Gavin's XT code, but (for some unfathomable reason) you do trust Adam and Greg's Core, and Wladimir, Jorge, Pieter, Matt, Todd, Mark and all the others

You pathetic pathological lying POS

These developers are listed on Blockstream's "Team" page: Adam Back (President), Greg Maxwell, Pieter Wuille, Matt Corallo, Mark Friedenbach, Rusty Russell, Patrick "Intersango" Strateman, Jorge Timón, and Glen Willen. There may be others. Luke "Tonal" Jr works for Blockstream as contractor. Peter Todd works half-time for Viacoin, an altcoin that claims to be bitcoin done right -- e.g. with 25 times faster confirms.

Who is paying Wladimir's salary now?

Oh Jorge, Lambie and all the other regulars who come out when sentiment is low... you know you make excellent buying indicators. Your psychological responses which cause an irresistible desire to discredit Bitcoin are so predictable.

"Price crashing... sentiment low... must... discredit Bitcoin... cannot focus... on work... secretly... jealous... gaaaahhhh"
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