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legendary
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at least we could verify that there are plenty of traders going to dump when gox coins get released.

on top of that kind of dump real selling pressure from the gox coins themselves might occur.
 
But I doubt that even half (80k BTC) of the gox coins will be sold on the market.

Together with the silkroad auctions (41k BTC) let's say it might reach 80k-100k BTC sold over the time span of one year (that's about 3.0-3.7 months of mining rewards)

However, in comparison it won't be as critical as the Luna dump.  That time 80k coins were sold within just one week. price went from approx. 38k to 25k.  
So having about the same amount distributed over a year or so won't do much to the price I guess...

I'm much more concerned with the speculative selling, just like today.  That might affect the market more than the actual gox or silkroad coins.  


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The government already dumped 10k silkroad bitcoins in March without crashing the market.

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The government already sold around 10,000 Bitcoin in mid-March but that move had no significant effect on the market.
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at least we could verify that there are plenty of traders going to dump when gox coins get released.

on top of that kind of dump real selling pressure from the gox coins themselves might occur.
 
But I doubt that even half (80k BTC) of the gox coins will be sold on the market.

Together with the silkroad auctions (41k BTC) let's say it might reach 80k-100k BTC sold over the time span of one year (that's about 3.0-3.7 months of mining rewards)

However, in comparison it won't be as critical as the Luna dump.  That time 80k coins were sold within just one week. price went from approx. 38k to 25k.  
So having about the same amount distributed over a year or so won't do much to the price I guess...

I'm much more concerned with the speculative selling, just like today.  That might affect the market more than the actual gox or silkroad coins.  



On the contrary, since today everyone will expect a massive dump when gox coins get released.  so the market might make an opposite move and pump.
but I'd give that scenario a way lower probability...




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Hahaha. I didn’t sold nor purchased Bitcoin on the current bull run. I gain my Bitcoin through my signature campaign earnings that I’m still holding on my hardware wallet.

I post the picture of the chart as reference so that my comment will not be taken as I’m obsessed for Bitcoin to go down and made an introduction about TA as self fulfilling prophecy. Tbh, I really like to purchased Bitcoin on low price but I’m just trying to express what’s the best scenario for Bitcoin to pump organically ofc in my humble opinion.

But yeah, Pumping the price straight to 30K above is not a problem to me as well because I still hold my Bitcointalk Savings Bitcoin.  Wink

Ok... Fair enough.   Wink

Since we are in a public thread, sometimes there are needs to attempt to verify these matters and also to clarify.

One thing that I will point out (and highlight)...

Historically, some members have become somewhat obsessed with ideas that they need to preserve their KYC and to earn their bitcoin and a lot of that kind of bullshit that ends up causing them to fail/refuse to sufficiently/adequately stack enough cornz in the event that BTC prices might happen to end up going up.

Each of us needs to strive to figure out how much of my lil precious we believe to be enough to adequately/sufficiently prepare us for UP in accordance with our own circumstances, and in the event that up ends up happening.

and perhaps looking at it every quarter or two in order to consider if the amount should be adjusted upwards or downwards or whatever in accordance with ongoing assessments of the variables within personal financial and psychological circumstances.

Totally agreed on this. I already learn too much lesson on Bitcoin hodling. I always set aside Bitcoin that I purchased or accumulate on an air gap wallet and considered it out of the picture when I accumulate more for some time. This way, the price point which I buy my old BTC doesn't matter and have a fresh start on buying for the next batch and do some TA shit like what I did. This way I can be happy at the same time no matter what the price direction is because I already secured my position either way.

Buy when dump and sell when the price hit my target which is the new ATH. I set my sell order on new ATH while buy order on the short term that appropriate to the trend.




Someone playing on charts to cause a huge Doji on daily candle. Government, Binance, Mt Gox???


30K again!!!!

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Stop it will you? Last time one WOer talked about pants, I was left without them.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810709/
Pants-Off Dance-Off
TV Series
Shedding their clothes down to their skivvies while dancing to popular music videos gives some the chance to win bragging rights and cash.
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A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
With the mtgox funds on the move the market appears to be a little spooked that distribution is going to result in a price crash. Investors apparently trying to get ahead of this love caused a price drop of nearly 10%. Very interesting to see the market so sensitive to the news cycle. I guess people really think a lot of the gox BTC is going to hit the market.

It was bogus news.

https://decrypt.co/138086/bitcoin-plunges-7-in-an-hour-to-under-28000-as-mt-gox-us-gov-wallets-move

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Bitcoin Plunges 7% in an Hour to Under $28,000 as Arkham Sends Erroneous Mt. Gox Alert
Blockchain analytics firm Arkham said wallets linked to defunct crypto exchange Mt. Gox and the U.S. government had moved large amounts of Bitcoin. But the alert was the result of a "bug fix."

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Editor's note: This story and its headline were updated after publication to clarify that Arkham's Mt. Gox alert was sent out in error.


https://tokenist.com/bitcoin-collapses-2k-as-us-govt-and-mt-gox-wallets-allegedly-awake/

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Bitcoin Collapses $2K+ After False Alarm Sends Traders Panicking

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Editorial note (April 26th, 2023, 5:48 PM EST): A paragraph on Arkham’s statement was added.

We should write them a thank you letter for the cheap coin.
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volatility is a thing today it appears....hang on to your pants gentlemen



Stop it will you? Last time one WOer talked about pants, I was left without them.
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It was bogus news.

Always good to see day traders are keeping their sweaty fingers on the buttons.

legendary
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Heads up American hodlers!

 https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/26/hackers-are-breaking-into-att-email-accounts-to-steal-cryptocurrency/

 
  Hackers are breaking into AT&T email accounts to steal cryptocurrency


" Unknown hackers are breaking into the accounts of people who have AT&T email addresses, and using that access to then hack into the victim’s cryptocurrency exchange’s accounts and steal their crypto, TechCrunch has learned.

At the beginning of the month, an anonymous source told TechCrunch that a gang of cybercriminals have found a way to hack into the email addresses of anyone who has an att.net, sbcglobal.net, bellsouth.net and other AT&T email addresses.

According to the tipster, the hackers are able to do that because they have access to a part of AT&T’s internal network, which allows them to create mail keys for any user. Mail keys are unique credentials that AT&T email users can use to log into their accounts using email apps such as Thunderbird or Outlook, but without having to use their passwords.

With a target’s mail key, the hackers can use an email app to log into the target’s account and start resetting passwords for more lucrative services, such as cryptocurrency exchanges. At that point it’s game over for the victim, as the hackers can then reset the victim’s Coinbase or Gemini account password via email.

The tipster provided a list of alleged victims. Two of the victims replied, confirming they have been hacked..."




  Thanks for the timely warning!
legendary
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With the mtgox funds on the move the market appears to be a little spooked that distribution is going to result in a price crash. Investors apparently trying to get ahead of this love caused a price drop of nearly 10%. Very interesting to see the market so sensitive to the news cycle. I guess people really think a lot of the gox BTC is going to hit the market.

It was bogus news.

https://decrypt.co/138086/bitcoin-plunges-7-in-an-hour-to-under-28000-as-mt-gox-us-gov-wallets-move

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Bitcoin Plunges 7% in an Hour to Under $28,000 as Arkham Sends Erroneous Mt. Gox Alert
Blockchain analytics firm Arkham said wallets linked to defunct crypto exchange Mt. Gox and the U.S. government had moved large amounts of Bitcoin. But the alert was the result of a "bug fix."

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Editor's note: This story and its headline were updated after publication to clarify that Arkham's Mt. Gox alert was sent out in error.


https://tokenist.com/bitcoin-collapses-2k-as-us-govt-and-mt-gox-wallets-allegedly-awake/

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Bitcoin Collapses $2K+ After False Alarm Sends Traders Panicking

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Editorial note (April 26th, 2023, 5:48 PM EST): A paragraph on Arkham’s statement was added.
legendary
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you are so late Buddy

$31,000

$30,000


Around here we use Bitstamp, not Binance.

Bitstamp and Coinbase are the only exchanges left that didn’t close my account for no reason. I suspect that regulators are doing all they can to push crypto from the reach of Americans. I look forward to the pendulum swinging the other direction when this nonsense is finally given up. Who cares though… We’re back to pushing on $30K and faster than I’d figured we would.

Did Gemini close your account?

Does Bitstamp demand excessive KYC from you?

i hate gemini, the product of the twins was highly regulated.

What's up with it?

Bob gave it good reviews.
legendary
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We'll Bart again
Don't know where
Don't know when
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you are so late Buddy

$31,000

$30,000


Around here we use Bitstamp, not Binance.

Bitstamp and Coinbase are the only exchanges left that didn’t close my account for no reason. I suspect that regulators are doing all they can to push crypto from the reach of Americans. I look forward to the pendulum swinging the other direction when this nonsense is finally given up. Who cares though… We’re back to pushing on $30K and faster than I’d figured we would.

Did Gemini close your account?

Does Bitstamp demand excessive KYC from you?

i hate gemini, the product of the twins was highly regulated.
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With the mtgox funds on the move the market appears to be a little spooked that distribution is going to result in a price crash. Investors apparently trying to get ahead of this love caused a price drop of nearly 10%. Very interesting to see the market so sensitive to the news cycle. I guess people really think a lot of the gox BTC is going to hit the market.
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What about this?. Another step to the multipolar world?. Nice for the BTC.

legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Damn it, RL and work keeps me so busy lately that I'm itching to pull the trigger on early retirement. Not yet, not yet, let it grow some more.

I see that every time there's a dip, it's swiftly followed by an equal and opposite reaction that's able to keep us close to 30k. I get a very positive feeling that something good (and long, and green) will come our way soon.

Back to lurking mode... Keep HoDLing WOers. 2025 will be a fine year.  Cool

Yep..

Nervousness about being able to calculate value of your cornz.. .

Understandable...


understandable..


Many of us were quite shaken by the BTC price going below the 200-week moving average for such a long period of time (9-months-ish) while at the same time, even with current prices, we are ONLY a wee bit above the 200-week moving average.. even though the 200-week moving average continues to inch UPpity.. little by little but still moving north.

So then the question may continue about both how much is enough, and are we again subjected to possible dips below the 200-week moving average and will our own evaluations (of our own circumstances) be able to handle such dips below, if they were to occur in the short term.. but if they might happen in the longer term (such as 2 years or more down the road, then at that point presumptively the 200-week moving average would have had moved up to high enough points that it may well not matter so much if the then current (spot) price might end up moving below it, eve if we might have similar kinds of results as we did in this last DOWNity period (which had gotten as low as 35% below the 200-week moving average.. fuck.... )

I suppose in the end, no one can really answer for you, in terms of how much of a cushion that you may well feel to be enough to pull that fuck you lever, and surely no one should feel that they have to unpull such lever once they pull it, even if they still might choose to perform various kinds of income producing work that would mostly be (in theory) voluntary types of contracts.

Damn it, RL and work keeps me so busy lately that I'm itching to pull the trigger on early retirement. Not yet, not yet, let it grow some more.

I see that every time there's a dip, it's swiftly followed by an equal and opposite reaction that's able to keep us close to 30k. I get a very positive feeling that something good (and long, and green) will come our way soon.

Back to lurking mode... Keep HoDLing WOers. 2025 will be a fine year.  Cool
I feel ya man!... Start planning your exit strategy, like i am doing now, as much as it would "feel good" to wake up one morning and say "fuck it! I am done!"

You'll be better off if you dot the i's and cross the t's and make a planned exit!

For example, I plan on doing alot of woodworking, so i'm purchasing new Festool Compound Mitre Saws and Table Saws, and other nice toys through the business and that is fully tax deductible. The old Milwaukee Compound Mitre Saw i'd once owned, has been shipped out to make way. I've stocked up on Sanding Pads and other non-perishable consumables.

Just small things like this you need to start thinking about.

Would like you know from anyone who has called it a day, is there anything you wish you had done before hanging up the boots? that would have helped?

I don't necessarily consider my route to have had been completely voluntary, and certain directions sometimes can end up having some forcing elements to them   - but for me, I feel a lot of matters worked out quite well, but there were various choices along the way that do not really seem to have had been completely voluntary.. and then some aspects of the direction have both luck and preparation that end up contributing towards decisions in which threshold matters can be decided regarding whether enough is enough.. and how much of this job versus another kind of job or another kind of job is necessary in terms of bringing in income or even making certain kinds of financial and psychological preparations.

I remember in about mid-to-late 2013 disclosing to one of my then work colleagues that when I reassess my financials with lesser income, there are ways to project out the income that I expected to have under one path versus another path and the outcome of those two paths do not really seem to show very much financial differences between working in job x that has higher income or working in job y that has lesser income, but way more freedoms... and for me, I likely would not have had time to spend so much looking into bitcoin were it not for me having had chosen to go into job y rather than staying in job x...... .. and largely my nestegg in job x had mostly had been established (even though another few more years seemed as if it would have had been preferable - since there were perks, and status, and even seeming opportunities and connections - but in the end, circumstances were not going to make such an option of sticking with job x to be worth it for my whole situation.. in regards to what I was willing, ready or able to do)..... and so there was a certain level of tearing and even seeming less prestige and benefits with job y.. even with way more freedoms.. 

In the end, going down the bitcoin road that may have also come about by giving up on job x (and spending more time on bitcoin-focused kinds of time-allocations) did end up causing both financial and psychological circumstances that way surpassed in surplus value compared to what I had projected my path to have had been nearly 10 years ago when these kinds of weighing of options of staying in job x or some variation of job x were being deliberated by yours truly.

Maybe I am suggesting that there can be some ways in which all of the "i"s do not necessarily need to be dotted, and not all of the "t"s need to be crossed in order to still end up being in a position in which you could still be ready to cross into a new kind of era in which there are fewer traditional "work-related" obligations.. and a path can be gone down in which fewer and fewer "work-related" obligations are filling up your days.... and so I had quite a few "work-related" obligations that I severed in 2013.. but also even more "work-related" obligations that I severed in 2018/2019... and sure, I still do have some things that I do that I label as work-related obligations, even though some people in my life have tried to suggest that I don't have to do them... but I still do dedicate some time to certain kinds of activities that I consider to be "work-related" obligations.. even though they are way more self-directed than many of the obligations that I severed in 2013 and in 2018/2019.
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