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It appears that there is always some issue when btc starts a bull run. This time we have the blockchain spam issue which seems to be causing a lot of grief. This cannot be a co-incidence that bitcoin always runs into issues just when it is about to break into a bull run. I am sure there is someone or some organisation and govt. agencies who are behind these spam attacks and every other attack that has happened to BTC ever since it came out. This just goes to show that they are bothered by the rise of crypto and will try anything to kill crypto in nascent stages. BTC has shown its resilience to these attaks so far, but how long can it hold out is the question.

*tinfoil hat on*

bitcoin and crypto represents a distinct threat to the global nwo police state corporate fascism military industrial complex whatever you want to call it. i think many of us here understand this on some level. btc and other crypto is basically money that (we think?) did not come from governments/banks and they cannot easily control or contain. perhaps most fundamentally we the powerless are not supposed to be able to evade and escape from governments/banks or even dare think to do so. the best that can be done is to expend resources financial, technical, media, political, legal to attempt to hold it back long enough that it can either be consumed and controlled by the state/bank power structures or that it is defeated on a technical level or that it implodes upon itself in financial terms ie extreme loss of value and major loss of users and merchants. if btc reaches (it probably hasn't yet) a critical mass of growth in adoption it could upend and decimate other stores of wealth specifically government backed fiat currencies. i could see a hypothetical global cryptographic backed democratic direct government of some sort being adopted, in concert with the rise of cryptocurrency and decimation of existing fiat wealth, and governments may fall, perhaps to be replaced by some type of resource management system governed by the will of all citizens of earth. whether this would instigate global war and force all countries to adopt dictatorial regimes, lead to complete anarchy and breakdown of society, or herald a new era of human freedom and global peace is the question.

or it could just be intentional manipulation/interference with the btc system by tech savvy whales for solely greed based reasons.

Things like that already mooted. Modern democracy is so inefficient and legacy. www.bitdemocracy.org
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It appears that there is always some issue when btc starts a bull run. This time we have the blockchain spam issue which seems to be causing a lot of grief. This cannot be a co-incidence that bitcoin always runs into issues just when it is about to break into a bull run. I am sure there is someone or some organisation and govt. agencies who are behind these spam attacks and every other attack that has happened to BTC ever since it came out. This just goes to show that they are bothered by the rise of crypto and will try anything to kill crypto in nascent stages. BTC has shown its resilience to these attaks so far, but how long can it hold out is the question.

*tinfoil hat on*

bitcoin and crypto represents a distinct threat to the global nwo police state corporate fascism military industrial complex whatever you want to call it. i think many of us here understand this on some level. btc and other crypto is basically money that (we think?) did not come from governments/banks and they cannot easily control or contain. perhaps most fundamentally we the powerless are not supposed to be able to evade and escape from governments/banks or even dare think to do so. the best that can be done is to expend resources financial, technical, media, political, legal to attempt to hold it back long enough that it can either be consumed and controlled by the state/bank power structures or that it is defeated on a technical level or that it implodes upon itself in financial terms ie extreme loss of value and major loss of users and merchants. if btc reaches (it probably hasn't yet) a critical mass of growth in adoption it could upend and decimate other stores of wealth specifically government backed fiat currencies. i could see a hypothetical global cryptographic backed democratic direct government of some sort being adopted, in concert with the rise of cryptocurrency and decimation of existing fiat wealth, and governments may fall, perhaps to be replaced by some type of resource management system governed by the will of all citizens of earth. whether this would instigate global war and force all countries to adopt dictatorial regimes, lead to complete anarchy and breakdown of society, or herald a new era of human freedom and global peace is the question.

or it could just be intentional manipulation/interference with the btc system by tech savvy whales for solely greed based reasons.
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Shorts up to 12.5k.

Longs at 27.5 mil USD.

In a bear market sideways action leads to impatience and a heavy speculator deciding market direction with a speculative sell (in the direction of trend). With the bear market technically over it will be interesting to see how the next move plays out.

'Line on a chart' analysis suggests as long as we stay above 275 - 280 we will probably break higher and through resistance at 300. If that happens then like a light being switched on, the bitcoin bull will be back and we could see 400 quickly.

If we stagnate here then we could range trade for a few months. Lots of support levels right down to super support at 210-220.

The halving countdown has already begun. My guess would be that the bitcoin halving rally will be front run by traders second guessing the previous bitcoin halving (rally after) and the recent litecoin halving surge (rally before) and we will rally earlier than most traders expect.

We still have two swords of damocles (gox coins could be bearish, could be bullish; coin etf - could be massively bullish if allowed by SEC eventually) and a little dagger (final us marshalls auction of 44k) hanging overhead.

I think we will move sideways for a bit as bitcoin shakes out the shorters a few more times before it does it's thing.
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Doom! Party is over!  Grin
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Hold tight....we're on our way back up again.


By 'up' do you mean 'down'?


He did! Such speculations. Shame! Tonyq. Shame. Tongue
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the chinese fucked environment, human rights and work conditions. now they've found out about bitcoin. give up.
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Bulls getting owned

Really? Down 1 dollar from when I hit the sack. Order book the same and the price spiked to 295 briefly wiping out anyone short.

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It appears that there is always some issue when btc starts a bull run. This time we have the blockchain spam issue which seems to be causing a lot of grief. This cannot be a co-incidence that bitcoin always runs into issues just when it is about to break into a bull run. I am sure there is someone or some organisation and govt. agencies who are behind these spam attacks and every other attack that has happened to BTC ever since it came out. This just goes to show that they are bothered by the rise of crypto and will try anything to kill crypto in nascent stages. BTC has shown its resilience to these attaks so far, but how long can it hold out is the question.
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Well, so much for buying the dip.

Not sure what you mean, but if it gets anywhere near 250 or below I'm buying more.  Continuing to build my long position.  I'm looking toward next year.

What I meant was that I try to time my buys to significant price dips and we hadn't had one since the start of June until it dropped over $25 on Monday. Unfortunately I was out in the bush at the time and couldn't take advantage. The price quickly regained half of what it had lost.

When I saw it drop sharply to below $285 while I was on my way back into town tonight I thought maybe I'd get another chance. Then  I saw it immediately bounce back into the mid-$290s. I realized that this wasn't the time.

I'm not much of a daytrader. I haven't sold any coins in over 2 years. I buy the dips and hoard my coins. Hopefully by the time I need to sell any coins I'll just spend them on goods and services.
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This drop has nothing to do with Litecoin, but I literally have thousands of dollars on the exchange already just in case that happens.
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Literally
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I care nothing of Peercoin I just know a Litecoin drop doesn't imply BTC is to follow.

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This drop has nothing to do with Litecoin, but with the yes vote in the Greek parliament.

Edit: Or to say it better, with traders who value bitcoin lower because of the yes vote. We soon know how many of them there are Wink

Clearly the parliament in Greece values their banks getting re-opened more than the will of their own people. This is similar to what happened in the U.S. in 2008.  For the record, I think the Greeks a s a group have had it far too easy and their high tolerance for corruption have gotten them into this mess. Nevertheless, it's more proof that democracy isn't working. I would even go so far as to say it can't work for long.

The yes vote does not automatically mean the banks will re-open soon if ever. There are still conditions that need to be met. Even if they re-open, I suspect some clever Greeks will use their deposited funds to buy bitcoin.  The blockchain has no bank holidays. No capital controls.

I don't really care much if the price dips a little more. I literally have thousands of dollars on the exchange already just in case that happens.
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