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legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos

Nah ... Greeks love tourism. Greek islands are peaceful places. Sure, I would avoid large cities and public places (tho even that might be being too cautious), but I doubt there will be much other than gratitiude for tourists in the islands. They NEED that income and all small islands are like mafias ... crime breaks out that affects business, it will be nipped in the bud. Sure, I would expect a little more crime there if everyone is carrying cash, but the islands are one of their greatest assets and they know it.

Stand with the Greeks, take extra money and spend it all, they need it  Smiley

I'm half expecting a massive street party once they are released from the tyranny of the EU, if that happens. Sure, lots of hard work ahead, but no more boot stamping on the face ...

macgsa, interested to hear your view ... btw, I am not implying that greek islanders are only friendly to tourists for the money  Wink

Greek islands are a place of Heaven that escaped on Earth. The current problem is that WE (the Greeks) cannot withdraw more than 60Eur per person, a day. That doesn't apply to a tourist coming to Greece. They have the ability to take infinite amounts. If you check the posts from tourists that are now on Greek islands, you see how the world is rolling here.

Personally, I don't anymore expect a Grexit. I don't expect a nice deal for us either, but I do expect a HEAVY debt reduction by the institutions. Similar to the one that occurred to Germany's debt in 1953 with the London treaty. Call me a fool, but that's what -I think- is the reason Greece has not already been on Drachma or something similar.

We look forward. We're strong and grateful that we live here. Money don't matter. People do...




YIAMAS!!!!!

Yiamas! Greece is a beautiful country.
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I am waiting for my transaction for over 4hours now and still no confirmation... Payed the regular fees...

Jesus.. we need bigger blocks yesterday.

84k unconf tx in mempool https://tradeblock.com/blockchain/  Undecided
hero member
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is there any possibility to rise the tx-fees on Multibit?
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Nah ... Greeks love tourism. Greek islands are peaceful places. Sure, I would avoid large cities and public places (tho even that might be being too cautious), but I doubt there will be much other than gratitiude for tourists in the islands. They NEED that income and all small islands are like mafias ... crime breaks out that affects business, it will be nipped in the bud. Sure, I would expect a little more crime there if everyone is carrying cash, but the islands are one of their greatest assets and they know it.

Stand with the Greeks, take extra money and spend it all, they need it  Smiley

I'm half expecting a massive street party once they are released from the tyranny of the EU, if that happens. Sure, lots of hard work ahead, but no more boot stamping on the face ...

macgsa, interested to hear your view ... btw, I am not implying that greek islanders are only friendly to tourists for the money  Wink

Greek islands are a place of Heaven that escaped on Earth. The current problem is that WE (the Greeks) cannot withdraw more than 60Eur per person, a day. That doesn't apply to a tourist coming to Greece. They have the ability to take infinite amounts. If you check the posts from tourists that are now on Greek islands, you see how the world is rolling here.

Personally, I don't anymore expect a Grexit. I don't expect a nice deal for us either, but I do expect a HEAVY debt reduction by the institutions. Similar to the one that occurred to Germany's debt in 1953 with the London treaty. Call me a fool, but that's what -I think- is the reason Greece has not already been on Drachma or something similar.

We look forward. We're strong and grateful that we live here. Money don't matter. People do...


You are probably right, now Germany has agreed Greece needs debt restructuring. Germany stubbornly refusing to consider restructuring was the biggest impediment to a deal. Now its changed its mind a deal might go through this weekend that prevents a Grexit.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/09/us-eurozone-greece-idUSKBN0P40EO20150709

Quote
Germany conceded on Thursday that Greece would need some debt restructuring as part of any new loan program to make its economy viable as the Greek cabinet raced to finalize reform proposals to avert an imminent economic meltdown.

The admission by German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble came hours before a midnight deadline for Athens to submit a reform plan meant to convince European partners to give it another loan to save it from a possible exit from the euro.
legendary
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Taking a shit load of euros, don't worry Torque..

Rather deposit € on exchange (arbitrage) and try to sell btc local there... after all Mascga said prices for btc are high (50€+ compere to actual rate)  Cheesy

Wouldn't that involve selling in person via Local Bitcoins? I wouldn't want to show off big wads of cash in public while selling Bitcoins in Greece. Considering you can only make tiny daily ATM withdrawals anyone showing off cash will risk robbery. Desperate people often do things they normally wouldn't consider.

more risk more reward... i think that is how they say it works.

a crisis is always a chance for the good or bad.


btw. i watched the ukip video from nigel and i think tsipras was rather thinking this: are you stupid? we dont want to leave the euro, we just want a real deal with debt relief.
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I am waiting for my transaction for over 4hours now and still no confirmation... Payed the regular fees...

Jesus.. we need bigger blocks yesterday.

I've been waiting for my accidental LTC purchase to go through since yesterday. Patience. Worst case scenario, it goes through 2 days from now.
sr. member
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Taking a shit load of euros, don't worry Torque..

Rather deposit € on exchange (arbitrage) and try to sell btc local there... after all Mascga said prices for btc are high (50€+ compere to actual rate)  Cheesy

Wouldn't that involve selling in person via Local Bitcoins? I wouldn't want to show off big wads of cash in public while selling Bitcoins in Greece. Considering you can only make tiny daily ATM withdrawals anyone showing off cash will risk robbery. Desperate people often do things they normally wouldn't consider.
hero member
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1NtkLdA98eGnsn8nEKpBGRd2VYGNBkGzd6
I am waiting for my transaction for over 4hours now and still no confirmation... Payed the regular fees...

Jesus.. we need bigger blocks yesterday.
legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.

Nah ... Greeks love tourism. Greek islands are peaceful places. Sure, I would avoid large cities and public places (tho even that might be being too cautious), but I doubt there will be much other than gratitiude for tourists in the islands. They NEED that income and all small islands are like mafias ... crime breaks out that affects business, it will be nipped in the bud. Sure, I would expect a little more crime there if everyone is carrying cash, but the islands are one of their greatest assets and they know it.

Stand with the Greeks, take extra money and spend it all, they need it  Smiley

I'm half expecting a massive street party once they are released from the tyranny of the EU, if that happens. Sure, lots of hard work ahead, but no more boot stamping on the face ...

macgsa, interested to hear your view ... btw, I am not implying that greek islanders are only friendly to tourists for the money  Wink

Greek islands are a place of Heaven that escaped on Earth. The current problem is that WE (the Greeks) cannot withdraw more than 60Eur per person, a day. That doesn't apply to a tourist coming to Greece. They have the ability to take infinite amounts. If you check the posts from tourists that are now on Greek islands, you see how the world is rolling here.

Personally, I don't anymore expect a Grexit. I don't expect a nice deal for us either, but I do expect a HEAVY debt reduction by the institutions. Similar to the one that occurred to Germany's debt in 1953 with the London treaty. Call me a fool, but that's what -I think- is the reason Greece has not already been on Drachma or something similar.

We look forward. We're strong and grateful that we live here. Money don't matter. People do...




YIAMAS!!!!!
legendary
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Nigel Farage Destroys EU Group-Think: "There's A New Berlin Wall... And It's Called The Euro"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-09/nigel-farage-destroys-eu-group-think-just-4-minutesthere-new-berlin-wall-and-its-cal

Damn right Nigel ! Damn right! Grin


Nigel Farage and Donald Trump... I wonder why Bitcoin hasn't gone mainstream.

We got Roid Rage, Angry Bald Bloke with freaky eyes, and Frapman, to name just a few ... no contest  Cheesy
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
Personally I think it's actually showing how robust the system is.

And Litecoin is showing with its rally at this time how much better and easier its fix against spam/DoS is. See:
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114791/litecoin-shows-there-is-a-simple-fix-for-spam-attacks-on-bitcoin


"CL: Because Litecoin is an altcoin and a much smaller market cap, the Litecoin price is extremely volatile. So when the crypto currency market is crashing, it gets hit a lot harder than Bitcoin. And when it's going up, Litecoin does extremely well."

So buying or selling an alt coin is like buying or selling bitcoins on margin.
sr. member
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Personally I think it's actually showing how robust the system is.

And Litecoin is showing with its rally at this time how much better and easier its fix against spam/DoS is. See:
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114791/litecoin-shows-there-is-a-simple-fix-for-spam-attacks-on-bitcoin


Litecoin's not immune to the spam attack, it would just cost more to do the same attack on Litecoin. I don't know how many transactions the Bitcoin spammer is sending for a single fee payment, but it's not costing that much money to do the attack. I assume Litecoin's transaction fees are lower than Bitcoin's so a spammer might still be able to attack Litecoin for not that much more money than attacking Bitcoin. Litecoin's not been attacked yet and it would be interesting to see how resilient it really is.

There is nothing new in a pyramid scheme. So I wouldn't bother to translate it into English.
Here is their PPT in word:

http://8btc.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=20406&pid=171287

LOL, dude, you're killing us!

So,

1. 10%
2. 10%
3. 3%
4. Profit

Member must buy in 500 ltc to be eligible to collect "mining return" (3-5 ltc/day).

litecoin receiving address of "direct sales" group exposed and over 1 million in balance:
http://8btc.com/thread-20406-3-1.html
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
Nigel Farage Destroys EU Group-Think: "There's A New Berlin Wall... And It's Called The Euro"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-09/nigel-farage-destroys-eu-group-think-just-4-minutesthere-new-berlin-wall-and-its-cal

Damn right Nigel ! Damn right! Grin


Nigel Farage and Donald Trump... I wonder why Bitcoin hasn't gone mainstream.
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
Taking a shit load of euros, don't worry Torque..

Nice one Inca

The fear is strong in this one ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHa3D-musUw

Without enough fear or enough bad things happening, the Greeks will never consider another type of currency/asset to preserve their savings and wealth.  This includes putting money into bitcoin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tAbP49atdU

Sigh...

Lol ... I think I will stick to Yoda's wisdom vs 'roid rage' if you don't mind  Wink

By voting 'Oxi' the Greek people have already shown that they have the balls (ie. lack of fear) to stand up to the EU in the face of financial terrorism.

@hdbuck ... awesome link, thanks !


Actually, I think Syriza is going for something more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1W0F0yObg
legendary
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Taking a shit load of euros, don't worry Torque..

Nice one Inca

The fear is strong in this one ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHa3D-musUw

Without enough fear or enough bad things happening, the Greeks will never consider another type of currency/asset to preserve their savings and wealth.  This includes putting money into bitcoin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tAbP49atdU

Sigh...

Lol ... I think I will stick to Yoda's wisdom vs 'roid rage' if you don't mind  Wink

By voting 'Oxi' the Greek people have already shown that they have the balls (ie. lack of fear) to stand up to the EU in the face of financial terrorism.

@hdbuck ... awesome link, thanks !
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It's Not Enough
267 again... , are you ready to do circles in 260 - 269 ?
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
Personally I think it's actually showing how robust the system is.

And Litecoin is showing with its rally at this time how much better and easier its fix against spam/DoS is. See:
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114791/litecoin-shows-there-is-a-simple-fix-for-spam-attacks-on-bitcoin
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