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I don't trust you. I know you lie about your motive. It's not academic interest.

As I have explained many times, it is not just academic interest; I feel I have also the obligation of giving public information about it (like I have been doing for 10 years about electronic voting).

BTW, two days ago one of my students asked me whether it was worth mining bitcoin with GPU cards.   Luckily I knew enough to tell him to forget the idea. 

It was only the second time someone asked me in person about bitcoin, since I started following it; and the previous case, too, was about GPU mining.  I wonder now whether someone is trying to sell some bitcoin mining project around here...
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Yes, I'm drunk now.



I would never have guessed.


Yes, I actually fed my Jack Daniel bottle with my sexy nipple, just as you giffed.
But: Is that all you take away from my text? I worked hard! And you are not that stupid! Skjerpings, Fatman! He he hi hi hi Wink

There's not much specific in what you wrote to have an opinion about. I could give you a general opinion though.


Yes, linking ID to the blockchain could make a lot of sense. It could make it possible for authorities to check the identity of asylum seekers against blockchain information made public before whatever sent them running happened. There are some problems though.

In order for the information to be credible it needs to be registered or verified by a trusted body. I would think the country of origin would want control of that process. But as long as procedures are standardized (what, how and when should be registered) and overseen by the UN it should be possible to rely on the information given by the states. And if we reach the point where every country registers the identity of their citizens on the blockchain, any refugees from a later conflict could easily be identified.

Another problem would be how to transparently register enough information for it to be useful as a universal form of ID without infringing on peoples right to privacy.

Such a registry is not really reliant on blockchain tech. Why don't we have such a registry managed by the UN today?

A private effort might make sense, I just don't see how it would be credible.

Hey! I'm getting more drunk!

The short story, is that you have 100% control of your own identity.
In Norway, you can choose your first your first and last name. And 3 days ago, a new rule came. You can choose your sex! Just send a form to the authoritys, and they will adjust their central database. It's almost what I'm talking about!

Still, last time I got a passport, they scanned all my fingers. I asked the lady, "are you sharing or storing that info?" She said no, don't worry. And I needed the passport, I wanted to travel. So.... I didn't make a scene.

EDIT: The idea of being in 100% control of your identity is probably to crazy for you! I know it can be done in a practical way. PM me if you have the right connections!
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Paging tarmi and the dumbshit nlc, we appear to have a price malfunction!
Some people love nostalgia so much that they fail to catch on to new trends and this will be their epic tragedy. Hubris runs deep in some in this changing market so there'll be those that get wiped out in such an unbelievable and shocking fashion. Tarmi will get smoked like a joint coming up if he don't come down off his high horse and get with the new program.
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Yes, I'm drunk now.



I would never have guessed.


Yes, I actually fed my Jack Daniel bottle with my sexy nipple, just as you giffed.
But: Is that all you take away from my text? I worked hard! And you are not that stupid! Skjerpings, Fatman! He he hi hi hi Wink

There's not much specific in what you wrote to have an opinion about. I could give you a general opinion though.


Yes, linking ID to the blockchain could make a lot of sense. It could make it possible for authorities to check the identity of asylum seekers against blockchain information made public before whatever sent them running happened. There are some problems though.

In order for the information to be credible it needs to be registered or verified by a trusted body. I would think the country of origin would want control of that process. But as long as procedures are standardized (what, how and when should be registered) and overseen by the UN it should be possible to rely on the information given by the states. And if we reach the point where every country registers the identity of their citizens on the blockchain, any refugees from a later conflict could easily be identified.

Another problem would be how to transparently register enough information for it to be useful as a universal form of ID without infringing on peoples right to privacy.

Such a registry is not really reliant on blockchain tech. Why don't we have such a registry managed by the UN today?

A private effort might make sense, I just don't see how it would be credible.
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We ether stay in low $250s, high $240s, or punch right through the downtrend log line... or kiss it, and settle back down to $240s. We'll see within 48 hours.

low 250, high 240 Huh

Anyway I don't see signals of a bigger rise at the moment, so I guess stay in 240-250 for a while
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Sure everybody in greece wont flock to bitcoin.  But some people WILL put some wealth there.  In a year we might look back at this as the catalyst that started a bull run.  Already started at $220ish a couple weeks ago really.

Maybe very slow, very shallow rally? I hope? One thing for sure, (in my mind at least)  the year-long downtrend is over.



Now expecting many months of the sideways...



I'm predicting we'll stay in this range for the rest of the summer at least...


No way bro, we be going up from here and out of this range for sure. Now is the time to go all in for the moonshot that is coming. Shit is about to get real serious up in here.
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We ether stay in low $250s, high $240s, or punch right through the downtrend log line... or kiss it, and settle back down to $240s. We'll see within 48 hours.
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Yes, I'm drunk now.



I would never have guessed.



Yes, I actually fed my Jack Daniel bottle with my sexy nipple, just as you giffed.
But: Is that all you take away from my text? I worked hard! And you are not that stupid! Skjerpings, Fatman! He he hi hi hi Wink

EDIT: And the headline i made for the leftie newspaper Klassekampen was this in norwegian: Oppholder seg ulovlig i verden. (Yes, still proud of that headline!)
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According to bitcoin average we still are above 250

It is not over yet, people
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@Fatman, so good to see that you don't have a life! We all like another hand in the jerk circle!

But seriously: I have this crazy idea. It's all about people being in control of their own identity. It can be done. I know how.

It's not like: Just put it on the blockchain. People say this too easy. "Put your appartment ownership on the blockchain. Put your identity on the blockchain". It's not that easy.
Yes, I'm drunk now.

That's why I reveal ideas that have been cooking in my head for months.
The ideas started 3 different places.(Yes!)

First time: I was watching an Al Jazeera report more than a year ago. It was about egyptians without formal papers. They had a big fucking problem getting work because they didn't have the papers proving that they had an identity.
That makes me drift back in time. (40+ men can do that without being called crazy, right?) I worked in a newspaper. My job was to make a headline for a story. It was about some people from Balkan/Yougoslav war wanting to enter Norway. Their legal status was complicated, and not in their favor. I made the headline (my best translation now): Residing illegal in the world (I'm not going to make a better headline ever.)

Second time: I wanted to do the opposite of anonymous bitcoin addresses (voluntarily, off course). I figured out how the old snail mail system can be used to confirm ID better than Facebook. Just send letters with codes, just like banks do. We must learn (and steal ideas) from banks. I also envisioned further applications of this idea.

Third time: This time, I worked on the problem of bitcoin-owning people getting robbed and threatened. I thought it could be solved by timelocks and maybe multisig. I even discussed the issue with Andreas Antonopolous.

But when I stripped the problem down, it actually boiled down to an entity confirming that you are alive (and ID).

Rambling away, I just want you guys to know that people get inspired by BTC.

If you share my vision (to let people control their identity, make their own passport), PM me!
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Oh come on now, the professor is only human after all. To insinuate that he does not partake of the guilty pleasure of trolling is simply untrue.

Case in point. http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/temp/2014-08-03-bitcoin-alley-color-x640.png

I love that comic. I love it so much. Because it works so well in a different context. Can you guess the context of the following image? (hint: 2008)

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Below $250

It was fun while it lasted
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I don't think you are honest about your basic motives regarding bitcoin. I'm a 44 year old nuclear physics-guy.

Is there some sort of causality I'm missing here?

Jorge has successfully identified enough BTC scams over the years to warrant respect. Sadly, there will continue to be scammers as long as BTC attracts happy-clappy noob idiots who think they are financial geniuses.
I disagree with Jorge on most things wrt bitcoin, but he has more sensible stuff to say than the average poster.  I am glad he is on the forum, despite his pessimistics BTC view.

Same here. Its healthy to have people with opposing ideas, for that is what can help grow. Now if Jorge were to start posting my little ponies BS...well he would lose credibility with me then.

Jorge has always provided a different perspective without trolling. I think most people appreciate his commentary even if they disagree with the content. I still don't believe that he is a bystander only and doesn't own any coins like his signature proclaims.  

Oh come on now, the professor is only human after all. To insinuate that he does not partake of the guilty pleasure of trolling is simply untrue.

Case in point. http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/temp/2014-08-03-bitcoin-alley-color-x640.png
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