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The GBTC market is about to open. I'm not surprised if it continues crashing toward BTC parity.



This is not a bad thing. We need volume and a slight premium. Once that happens we will see it impact prices on other exchanges.

Many people on here were waiting for the first GBTC trade to initiate the resurgence of a bull market. However, the market digested the news and FELL. During US hours on May 4th, the price hovered around $240. Early morning May 5th, the price fell to a low of $231. GBTC, while a step in the right direction for the investability of Bitcoin, has serious shortcomings that prevent it from being the catalyst that everyone wishes it to be.

It is impossible to arbitrage the premium between GBTC and spot. The arbitrage mechanism is what would trigger a price rise. The buying pressure that leads to a premium over Net Asset Value (NAV) needs to find it’s way into the Bitcoin spot market. That happens when market makers, sell GBTC, buy Bitcoin, and deliver the Bitcoin to the fund manager in return for shares of GBTC. That allows the market makers to capture the premium. Even if GBTC had significant volume (only a handful of shares traded), the fund structure prohibits the creation of shares by tendering Bitcoin or cash to the fund manager within two settlement days. The creation process must happen within two settlement days to match the delivery of GBTC shares to the buyer. Then the sale by the market maker will be considered a long sell and not a short sell, which requires the trader to borrow the shares before selling on the open market. Currently it takes one year to create new GBTC shares.

GBTC will not save Bitcoin from the jaws of the bears. The premium it trades at is interesting, but not significant. If the first GBTC trade was your bull market thesis, it is time to go back to the drawing board. GBTC traded, and the market yawned.
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calm before the strom?  Huh

thats what i hope   Undecided

thats what  I hope either
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Just wait for 5000 btc to trade at 350
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The GBTC market is about to open. I'm not surprised if it continues crashing toward BTC parity.



This is not a bad thing. We need volume and a slight premium. Once that happens we will see it impact prices on other exchanges.
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The GBTC market is about to open. I'm not surprised if it continues crashing toward BTC parity.



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The GBTC market is about to open. I'm not surprised if it continues crashing toward BTC parity.

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The tumbleweed is strong here.... hopefully we can clear it out soon.

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Without trolls the essence comes back to light, no 200 post/day needed.

With a falling price my WO pages have 15-18 ignores and with a rising only 1 or 2 :-)

I am sure you could make a simple algorithm based on that..whether it would follow or lead the price would be interesting
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Without trolls the essence comes back to light, no 200 post/day needed.

With a falling price my WO pages have 15-18 ignores and with a rising only 1 or 2 :-)
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This is what goes passes for capitulation for me. I'm out of fiat. out of leverage. Might lose everything in a margin call. Pawn shops are closed and I just bet the mortgage money. I'm just a spectator now. Good luck, Gentleman. I did everything I could.



how did I get here?

Who reads old stuff like this? What was the price back then? Good think I got a few paychecks since then.


In Bitcoin, running out of cash is like farting in church. Poverty is a sin.

but if you buy bitcoins with all your money you have no money.  is that still a sin?

posted from my phone from work on my day off Tongue Tongue
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calm before the strom?  Huh

thats what i hope   Undecided

Folks have been saying that on and off for months followed by falls and more boredom. It's the calm before the lull. Hard to tell them apart though.

Sounds like the end of a bear market to me. Total boredom - but the price stops falling. We are in the accumulation zone.

Things will get exciting soon enough.
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calm before the strom?  Huh

thats what i hope   Undecided

Folks have been saying that on and off for months followed by falls and more boredom. It's the calm before the lull. Hard to tell them apart though.
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calm before the strom?  Huh

thats what i hope   Undecided
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Strange, yet attractive.

Stagnant times have this kind of behavior. Let's hope we don't stay this way for long.
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
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