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That is my point, the VC investors of Circle and Coinbase must not be interested so much in bitcoin as they are in the fiat-to-fiat service.  That market is MUCH larger than bitcoin-to-fiat or fiat-to-bitcoin.
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You were too subtle. I really thought that you were finally seeing the light.  Grin

The first point nods to the trojan horse. Bitcoin doesn't need to market itself when its competition is run by heavily indebted governments who have shown time and time again their inability to manage economies. In dramatic cases the currency is devalued overnight, sometimes a slow bleed, sometimes more abrupt. A $150-250 bitcoin over months can seem fine and dandy in these circumstances.

As long as the option is there, it is a huge coup. Establish tunnels through the current walls. 

Price-wise? If there is no interest in these two securities going up soon, I would say things go south for a while. Try to find the marginal cost of mining a bitcoin? The most important part is that the network continues to function, time heals all wounds. I would be more assured if we could scale up tx per block sometime soon.
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A couple of years ago any serious financial services company would be crazy to take cryptocurrencies seriously. Now they are crazy not to.
Any serious company must have a site now [/nostalgic] Smiley
Ah memory lane recalls the days when businesses were like Websites right ... we will look into that
Time does tell no lies Smiley
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A couple of years ago any serious financial services company would be crazy to take cryptocurrencies seriously. Now they are crazy not to.
Any serious company must have a site now [/nostalgic] Smiley

LOL! That shouldn't be as funny as it is. I remember in the early/mid 90s, most, when asked, said they were "looking into it"; with obvious contempt. 2-3 years later EVERY single one of them had a site. Good time to be a nerd.
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Circle's philosophy hasn't shifted. They've been focused on dollar balances using bitcoin rails since their inception. They're just now attempting to close that "circle".

What's more surprising is that Goldman Sachs is interested in the utility of an asset that has been crashing for a year and a half. Wall St. tends to stay away from such things.
I hope they think that the asset had been crashing for 13 months and then - has been consolidating for 3 months. Smiley

Stop messing with my dig at stolfi  Wink
Took it at face value. Stupid me Smiley
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Circle's philosophy hasn't shifted. They've been focused on dollar balances using bitcoin rails since their inception. They're just now attempting to close that "circle".

What's more surprising is that Goldman Sachs is interested in the utility of an asset that has been crashing for a year and a half.  Wall St. tends to stay away from such things.

That is my point, the VC investors of Circle and Coinbase must not be interested so much in bitcoin as they are in the fiat-to-fiat service.  That market is MUCH larger than bitcoin-to-fiat or fiat-to-bitcoin.

Stop messing with my dig at stolfi  Wink

You were too subtle. I really thought that you were finally seeing the light.  Grin
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A couple of years ago any serious financial services company would be crazy to take cryptocurrencies seriously. Now they are crazy not to.
Any serious company must have a site now [/nostalgic] Smiley
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Circle's philosophy hasn't shifted. They've been focused on dollar balances using bitcoin rails since their inception. They're just now attempting to close that "circle".

What's more surprising is that Goldman Sachs is interested in the utility of an asset that has been crashing for a year and a half. Wall St. tends to stay away from such things.
I hope they think that the asset had been crashing for 13 months and then - has been consolidating for 3 months. Smiley

I hope I think so too
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Circle's philosophy hasn't shifted. They've been focused on dollar balances using bitcoin rails since their inception. They're just now attempting to close that "circle".

What's more surprising is that Goldman Sachs is interested in the utility of an asset that has been crashing for a year and a half. Wall St. tends to stay away from such things.
I hope they think that the asset had been crashing for 13 months and then - has been consolidating for 3 months. Smiley

Stop messing with my dig at stolfi  Wink
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An alumni taking a paid board position is slightly different than plowing company venture funds in.
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Circle's philosophy hasn't shifted. They've been focused on dollar balances using bitcoin rails since their inception. They're just now attempting to close that "circle".

What's more surprising is that Goldman Sachs is interested in the utility of an asset that has been crashing for a year and a half. Wall St. tends to stay away from such things.
I hope they think that the asset had been crashing for 13 months and then - has been consolidating for 3 months. Smiley
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Circle's philosophy hasn't shifted. They've been focused on dollar balances using bitcoin rails since their inception. They're just now attempting to close that "circle".

What's more surprising is that Goldman Sachs is interested in the utility of an asset that has been crashing for a year and a half. Wall St. tends to stay away from such things.

I don't think that was too surprising considering Circle has Goldman alumni on their executive board.

The potential for effectivisation and cost cutting in international trade is such that these big boys will have to at least look at the technology, even if it's just out of fomo. A couple of years ago any serious financial services company would be crazy to take cryptocurrencies seriously. Now they are crazy not to. But somehow the tarmis of this world is convinced BTC is supposed to be worth less now than then.
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Circle's philosophy hasn't shifted. They've been focused on dollar balances using bitcoin rails since their inception. They're just now attempting to close that "circle".

What's more surprising is that Goldman Sachs is interested in the utility of an asset that has been crashing for a year and a half. Wall St. tends to stay away from such things.

I don't think that was too surprising considering Circle has Goldman alumni on their executive board.
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Circle's philosophy hasn't shifted. They've been focused on dollar balances using bitcoin rails since their inception. They're just now attempting to close that "circle".

What's more surprising is that Goldman Sachs is interested in the utility of an asset that has been crashing for a year and a half. Wall St. tends to stay away from such things.
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Nice, but bitcoin is actually becoming less relevant to Circle's business, it would seem...

Suppose a person in the US sends USD throught Circle to a person in China who will receive CNY.  Circle does not necessarily have to use bitcoin for that.  If it has enough reserves at both ends, it only needs to adjust its own internal ledgers.  Like Western Union, or any bank. 

They need to send bitcoins, and sell them in the local markets, only if their reserves get too unbalanced.

Indeed, that was my guess for the reason for Coinbase and Circle getting so much VC investment: they intend to become competitors to PayPal in the "fiat" e-payment business, using bitcoin only occasionally if at all.
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... And until this "complex and evolving landscape" is crossed over  (by using theze 50M$ to bribe Chinese officials  Grin),  ...
I hope they will bribe them with bitcoins, then the officials would get personally interested in the bitcoin growth Smiley
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LOL, it wasn't the 30th in NY. They got a $50 mil round, and their plans for the future (how they sold the investors in the round).



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Today we announced a major step forward in the execution of our vision and product strategy. We've closed a new $50 million strategic investment round co-led by Goldman Sachs and IDG Capital Partners.

http://blog.circle.com/2015/04/30/new-circle-investors-new-us-dollar-account-features-china-horizons/

Gentlemen, get your engines ready

What? Are you a troll or did the website go down?
http://blog.circle.com/2015/04/29/new-circle-investors-new-us-dollar-account-features-china-horizons/
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Today we announced a major step forward in the execution of our vision and product strategy. We've closed a new $50 million strategic investment round co-led by Goldman Sachs and IDG Capital Partners.

http://blog.circle.com/2015/04/30/new-circle-investors-new-us-dollar-account-features-china-horizons/

Gentlemen, get your engines ready

What? Are you a troll or did the website go down?
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Today we announced a major step forward in the execution of our vision and product strategy. We've closed a new $50 million strategic investment round co-led by Goldman Sachs and IDG Capital Partners.

http://blog.circle.com/2015/04/30/new-circle-investors-new-us-dollar-account-features-china-horizons/

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Not yet. As the statement says:

This will take time, as companies and services like Circle’s must address a complex and evolving legal and regulatory landscape in China.

And until this "complex and evolving landscape" is crossed over  (by using theze 50M$ to bribe Chinese officials  Grin), Circle works withing US borders only, it's not yet usable for remittance or international trade.

can deposit and withdraw their Circle balances to their external bitcoin wallets as well as to their U.S. bank accounts and credit/debit cards.
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