Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 22111. (Read 26609317 times)
April 07, 2015, 06:33:50 AM
April 07, 2015, 06:26:54 AM
.... If the price is being manipulated down, It's an opportunity to load up cheap. If the price is being manipulated up, GOOD! sell for profit.
Best explanation so far, convincing for both sides...
April 07, 2015, 06:23:47 AM
i think this is just a deceptive mexican standoff conjured up to probe the market, mislead the price guess.. notice how this is being delayed... if i'm observing correctly shorts vs longs is no longer accurate as it used to be in 2014 as it's becoming way too predictable and less profitable... i'm still positive that this market is rigged up to eyeballs and any engineered "news leak" any day now should set the direction either way to manipulators' benefits... i wouldn't be surprised if the forces that move this market are present in both sides of the leveraged market...
Exactly, market is being totally manipulated, its obvious for everyone who has brain and some trading experience, for now btc market is just a scam machine for some "elite" groups http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-elite-meet-secret-island-bilderberg-style-retreat/ , they dont even hide it. BTC is not being used as currency much now and its "market" price is totally rigged up cos real btc btc as for me is arounds nr i 130-160$ maximum, it will rise later this year but only after retesting of those levels. Its a shame that such a great idea of free money have been raped by the same motherfuckers with the same methods of fiat "elite" just to make them much more rich after fiat system fails.
There is no evidence that "the elite" are some homogeneous group with identical interests. Cartels fail because the more they succeed, the more incentive there is to defect. Every time I hear some conspiracy theory, i see some losers latching onto some excuse for failure. If the price is being manipulated down, GOOD! It's an opportunity to load up cheap. If the price is being manipulated up, GOOD! sell for profit.
April 07, 2015, 06:16:36 AM
i think this is just a deceptive mexican standoff conjured up to probe the market, mislead the price guess.. notice how this is being delayed... if i'm observing correctly shorts vs longs is no longer accurate as it used to be in 2014 as it's becoming way too predictable and less profitable... i'm still positive that this market is rigged up to eyeballs and any engineered "news leak" any day now should set the direction either way to manipulators' benefits... i wouldn't be surprised if the forces that move this market are present in both sides of the leveraged market...
I was thinking the same thing yesterday
What is to stop whales from gaming these numbers by borrowing coins from themselves and shorting these instead of selling directly? They are guaranteed that the new ATH in shorts will be screamed from the rooftops in here and seized upon as bullish. If you borrowed your own coins, there would be no cost to this strategy as you would be paying interest to yourself.
No idea if this is happening, but if it has not done already, it will be done one day for sure. Inca's predictable posts would be like free advertising to them and play right into their hands
Equally well, borrowing your own USD to game the long data would be easy and free, though it would seem to be a longer game given the generally slower trends in those numbers.
FWIW, even though I am bearish, I look at that short data and wonder how it can go down with such a high number, so if it's a psy-op, it's a good one.
April 07, 2015, 06:00:29 AM
i think this is just a deceptive mexican standoff conjured up to probe the market, mislead the price guess.. notice how this is being delayed... if i'm observing correctly shorts vs longs is no longer accurate as it used to be in 2014 as it's becoming way too predictable and less profitable... i'm still positive that this market is rigged up to eyeballs and any engineered "news leak" any day now should set the direction either way to manipulators' benefits... i wouldn't be surprised if the forces that move this market are present in both sides of the leveraged market...
Exactly, market is being totally manipulated, its obvious for everyone who has brain and some trading experience, for now btc market is just a scam machine for some "elite" groups http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-elite-meet-secret-island-bilderberg-style-retreat/ , they dont even hide it. BTC is not being used as currency much now and its "market" price is totally rigged up cos real btc btc as for me is around 130-160$ maximum, it will rise later this year but only after retesting of those levels. Its a shame that such a great idea of free money have been raped by the same motherfuckers with the same methods of fiat "elite" just to make them much more rich after fiat system fails.
April 07, 2015, 05:58:35 AM
April 07, 2015, 05:46:03 AM
I know that you don't know what any formation and indicator is.
drinking? because i'm not blind bull?
welcome to ignore again :-)
lol,
Try sharing some of those lines, formations and indicators. Don't go full tarmi. We already have one of those.
(Then again, if JimboToronto is ignored I guess I am too)
https://www.tradingview.com/s/bitcoin/?sort=recent
dyor
btw. chat at tradingview about btc is great place if you trade with brain (=analysis)
chessnut's and danv's at last time are pretty accurate
ofc you can find also bullish at now like always but there's much more premises to go down.
look at btcchina 15m - rising volume with dropping price, clearly distribution.
the guy with 500k$? long at finex is joke. We saw similar spikes right before price went down.
i don't say price will crash today or tomorrow but it's easy to see that this is another bulltrap very likely.
slowly downtrend with many mini bulltraps is what we can see now.
Maybe with final dump. the sooner, the better to go faster up imo.
Right now there's an army people holding btc and holding opened longs and they must believe that we're going higher.
they think that they're in accumulation phase:) because they're always buying when price rose lol.
usually that's the point when distribution is starting:)
April 07, 2015, 05:43:00 AM
Bull, it's for your benefit...
April 07, 2015, 05:41:11 AM
Deep Dot web seems to think price will go down. Also has some charts from this thread
http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/04/07/bitcoin-price-analysis-april-7th/
http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/04/07/bitcoin-price-analysis-april-7th/
April 07, 2015, 05:28:45 AM
April 07, 2015, 05:16:58 AM
I know that you don't know what any formation and indicator is.
drinking? because i'm not blind bull?
welcome to ignore again :-)
lol,
Try sharing some of those lines, formations and indicators. Don't go full tarmi. We already have one of those.
(Then again, if JimboToronto is ignored I guess I am too)
April 07, 2015, 04:58:36 AM
April 07, 2015, 04:49:35 AM
I'd love to hear a logical reason why you think that "ofc" it will go down.
Ball's in your court.
Reason? Analysis of formation, volumen and few indicators.Ball's in your court.
Analysis of which "formation" and "indicators"?
That's pretty vague.
As for volume, the last bit of real volume we had was upward.
If you don't have an answer, that's OK. Just don't be so assertive about your opinionated conjecture.
Have you been drinking?
I know that you don't know what any formation and indicator is.
drinking? because i'm not blind bull?
welcome to ignore again :-)
April 07, 2015, 04:29:34 AM
i think this is just a deceptive mexican standoff conjured up to probe the market, mislead the price guess.. notice how this is being delayed... if i'm observing correctly shorts vs longs is no longer accurate as it used to be in 2014 as it's becoming way too predictable and less profitable... i'm still positive that this market is rigged up to eyeballs and any engineered "news leak" any day now should set the direction either way to manipulators' benefits... i wouldn't be surprised if the forces that move this market are present in both sides of the leveraged market...
Analysis of which "formation" and "indicators"?
That's pretty vague.
As for volume, the last bit of real volume we had was upward.
If you don't have an answer, that's OK. Just don't be so assertive about your opinionated conjecture.
Have you been drinking?
I'd love to hear a logical reason why you think that "ofc" it will go down.
Ball's in your court.
Reason? Analysis of formation, volumen and few indicators.Ball's in your court.
Analysis of which "formation" and "indicators"?
That's pretty vague.
As for volume, the last bit of real volume we had was upward.
If you don't have an answer, that's OK. Just don't be so assertive about your opinionated conjecture.
Have you been drinking?
April 07, 2015, 03:58:35 AM
April 07, 2015, 02:58:35 AM
April 07, 2015, 02:38:20 AM
Any reasons? Or is that just a typical emotional beartard knee-jerk reaction?
I'd love to hear a logical reason why you think that "ofc" it will go down.
Ball's in your court.
Reason? Analysis of formation, volumen and few indicators.
But this is too much for bull brain, i know.
April 07, 2015, 02:37:37 AM
Any reasons? Or is that just a typical emotional beartard knee-jerk reaction?
I'd love to hear a logical reason why you think that "ofc" it will go down.
Ball's in your court.
Reason? Analysis of formation, volumen and few indicators.
But this is too much for bull brain, i know.
Yeez, I know it isn't fun to lose money but you don't have to lash out like this. Besides, we told you it would go up, so what are you crying about? Man up Sir!
April 07, 2015, 02:12:28 AM
Ah, I see.
It's the head and (singular) shoulder pattern.
April 07, 2015, 02:07:05 AM
I'd love to hear a logical reason why you think that "ofc" it will go down.
Ball's in your court.
Reason? Analysis of formation, volumen and few indicators.Ball's in your court.
Analysis of which "formation" and "indicators"?
That's pretty vague.
As for volume, the last bit of real volume we had was upward.
If you don't have an answer, that's OK. Just don't be so assertive about your opinionated conjecture.
Have you been drinking?
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