No Gods No Masters...
Some Bitcoin
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 22189. (Read 26610951 times)
April 01, 2015, 07:59:04 PM
April 01, 2015, 07:58:45 PM
April 01, 2015, 07:57:54 PM
Democracy is an oxymoron. Demo-cracy mean power of people, but power over whom? Over themselves? It makes no sense, like horse riding on itself.
In reality it's state having power over people. By force and deception. Police is the force, democracy is the deception. As for relations between judges and police, it may be true, but it doesn't matter. They are parts of single entity: the state, and this entity is your collective owner. They are ultimate owners of your money, freedom and life. They can take it from you, if they decide to.
In reality it's state having power over people. By force and deception. Police is the force, democracy is the deception. As for relations between judges and police, it may be true, but it doesn't matter. They are parts of single entity: the state, and this entity is your collective owner. They are ultimate owners of your money, freedom and life. They can take it from you, if they decide to.
Hi again Wary,
But how would you suggest that society should arrange itself?
Society based on voluntary association, voluntary trade and voluntary interactions. While some argue over who should be dictator, a few advocate having no dictator. tale it back a step. While some argue over who should rule, some advocate no rulers.
April 01, 2015, 07:49:22 PM
Bitcoin loves to coil....
April 01, 2015, 07:18:03 PM
~1week around the 244$ mark.
c'mmon bitcoin! do some magic
c'mmon bitcoin! do some magic
April 01, 2015, 07:06:10 PM
how long am I going to have to wait??? huh?
Yesterday I was feeling bearish- VERY bearish. I felt the most bearish I have ever felt.
I even went online and was looking for a high paying job. Bitcoin was failing me.
Perhaps the fact a permabull like me was feeling this way is a true sign we reached full capitulation and we are finally on our way up?
Hopefully the wait is over!
Keep looking for that job. Bitcoin will not save you from needing to work for your money. If you don't think so, then that is a true sign the worst is still to come.
It isn't like I don't work, however, as a mostly "at home" mom I don't work full-time. I do a real estate transaction here and there and some other side jobs. I was just thinking of finding something more permanent and full-time. It would actually put a strain on the family to do so though. Another Bitcoin bubble would make things just a little easier. I am sure I am not the only one on here that feels that way.
I wouldn't mind it being a more sustainable trend than a bubble.
I think we will have a few more bubbles until we get to that point. But what do I know? I admit that I have been repeatedly surprised by BTC since when I first bought in 2013.
Depends on rate of adoption and who adopts. Wall Street can only get us so far. To quote someone I don't remember who: we can't all make a living cutting each others hair.
This waiting for Wall Street to arrive reminds me of the cargo cult of Vanuatu. I don't think bounty will come from above
April 01, 2015, 07:05:33 PM
April 01, 2015, 07:02:39 PM
how long am I going to have to wait??? huh?
Yesterday I was feeling bearish- VERY bearish. I felt the most bearish I have ever felt.
I even went online and was looking for a high paying job. Bitcoin was failing me.
Perhaps the fact a permabull like me was feeling this way is a true sign we reached full capitulation and we are finally on our way up?
Hopefully the wait is over!
Keep looking for that job. Bitcoin will not save you from needing to work for your money. If you don't think so, then that is a true sign the worst is still to come.
It isn't like I don't work, however, as a mostly "at home" mom I don't work full-time. I do a real estate transaction here and there and some other side jobs. I was just thinking of finding something more permanent and full-time. It would actually put a strain on the family to do so though. Another Bitcoin bubble would make things just a little easier. I am sure I am not the only one on here that feels that way.
I wouldn't mind it being a more sustainable trend than a bubble.
I think we will have a few more bubbles until we get to that point. But what do I know? I admit that I have been repeatedly surprised by BTC since when I first bought in 2013.
Depends on rate of adoption and who adopts. Wall Street can only get us so far. To quote someone I don't remember who: we can't all make a living cutting each others hair.
April 01, 2015, 06:58:44 PM
April 01, 2015, 06:56:40 PM
@Wary
Ok, thanks! I was really curious as to how you thought about these things. It seems like an interesting idea with a lot of the same obstacles as socialist anarchism, but from a completely different angle. Will be interesting to see if they can get any of the social experiments in South America off the ground.
Ok, thanks! I was really curious as to how you thought about these things. It seems like an interesting idea with a lot of the same obstacles as socialist anarchism, but from a completely different angle. Will be interesting to see if they can get any of the social experiments in South America off the ground.
April 01, 2015, 06:53:27 PM
That 5 dollar pump was just an April Fools joke. The raid is coming.
April 01, 2015, 06:50:54 PM
how long am I going to have to wait??? huh?
Yesterday I was feeling bearish- VERY bearish. I felt the most bearish I have ever felt.
I even went online and was looking for a high paying job. Bitcoin was failing me.
Perhaps the fact a permabull like me was feeling this way is a true sign we reached full capitulation and we are finally on our way up?
Hopefully the wait is over!
Keep looking for that job. Bitcoin will not save you from needing to work for your money. If you don't think so, then that is a true sign the worst is still to come.
It isn't like I don't work, however, as a mostly "at home" mom I don't work full-time. I do a real estate transaction here and there and some other side jobs. I was just thinking of finding something more permanent and full-time. It would actually put a strain on the family to do so though. Another Bitcoin bubble would make things just a little easier. I am sure I am not the only one on here that feels that way.
the blue pill please
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found something interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qubes_OS
April 01, 2015, 06:47:53 PM
April 01, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
With states, are you talking about sovereign states or federal states (Like the states of the USA)?
And how does your system of changing "protection provider" differ from migration, and how is it achieved?
Federal states are not quite states. Which have become clear by 1865 And how does your system of changing "protection provider" differ from migration, and how is it achieved?
I'm talking about any company that offers protection services. Size can vary from one person to millions of employees. Origin - current states or multinationals or protection companies or gangs.
The major difference from emigration - in not having to emigrate. The same way like you don't have to relocate to change internet provider or bank or insurance company.
If you ever emigrated, you would agree that it's very costly enterprise, in all respects, in most cases - prohibitively costly. "My" system reduces the cost of switching protection provider to practically zero and therefore allows market forced act freely.
How it is achieved - is a million dollar question. I hope that bitcoin (and monero) is a step in this direction.
Transition to such system is basically transfer from socialism to capitalism. Replacing the remaining pocket of socialism - the state, by capitalistic companies.
We've seen examples of such transfer in economics during last decades. There is basically two major ways: voluntary and compulsory. The voluntary one (China) is when state builds the market. The compulsory is when the state collapses and market emerges from the resulting chaos (Soviet Union). I hope the transition will be voluntary but afraid that it will be compulsory.
You mean well, but I think optimists like you will be taken advantage of by liars who call themselves free-marketers. Looking at history, I would worry we would all be starved out by the post-Soviet style economic "shock therapy" your scenario entails, only to end up with equally concentrated power/wealth in the hands of a new generation of oligopolists.
Except for me of course. I won't starve. I'm a bitcoin millionaire.
April 01, 2015, 06:43:03 PM
how long am I going to have to wait??? huh?
Yesterday I was feeling bearish- VERY bearish. I felt the most bearish I have ever felt.
I even went online and was looking for a high paying job. Bitcoin was failing me.
Perhaps the fact a permabull like me was feeling this way is a true sign we reached full capitulation and we are finally on our way up?
Hopefully the wait is over!
Keep looking for that job. Bitcoin will not save you from needing to work for your money. If you don't think so, then that is a true sign the worst is still to come.
It isn't like I don't work, however, as a mostly "at home" mom I don't work full-time. I do a real estate transaction here and there and some other side jobs. I was just thinking of finding something more permanent and full-time. It would actually put a strain on the family to do so though. Another Bitcoin bubble would make things just a little easier. I am sure I am not the only one on here that feels that way.
I wouldn't mind it being a more sustainable trend than a bubble.
I think we will have a few more bubbles until we get to that point. But what do I know? I admit that I have been repeatedly surprised by BTC since when I first bought in 2013.
April 01, 2015, 06:42:31 PM
I smell bear blood
April 01, 2015, 06:38:08 PM
With states, are you talking about sovereign states or federal states (Like the states of the USA)?
And how does your system of changing "protection provider" differ from migration, and how is it achieved?
Federal states are not quite states. Which have become clear by 1865 And how does your system of changing "protection provider" differ from migration, and how is it achieved?
I'm talking about any company that offers protection services. Size can vary from one person to millions of employees. Origin - current states or multinationals or protection companies or gangs.
The major difference from emigration - in not having to emigrate. The same way like you don't have to relocate to change internet provider or bank or insurance company.
If you ever emigrated, you would agree that it's very costly enterprise, in all respects, in most cases - prohibitively costly. "My" system reduces the cost of switching protection provider to practically zero and therefore allows market forced act freely.
How it is achieved - is a million dollar question. I hope that bitcoin (and monero) is a step in this direction.
Transition to such system is basically transfer from socialism to capitalism. Replacing the remaining pocket of socialism - the state, by capitalistic companies.
We've seen examples of such transfer in economics during last decades. There is basically two major ways: voluntary and compulsory. The voluntary one (China) is when state builds the market. The compulsory is when the state collapses and market emerges from the resulting chaos (Soviet Union). I hope the transition will be voluntary but afraid that it will be compulsory.
April 01, 2015, 06:29:27 PM
how long am I going to have to wait??? huh?
Yesterday I was feeling bearish- VERY bearish. I felt the most bearish I have ever felt.
I even went online and was looking for a high paying job. Bitcoin was failing me.
Perhaps the fact a permabull like me was feeling this way is a true sign we reached full capitulation and we are finally on our way up?
Hopefully the wait is over!
Keep looking for that job. Bitcoin will not save you from needing to work for your money. If you don't think so, then that is a true sign the worst is still to come.
It isn't like I don't work, however, as a mostly "at home" mom I don't work full-time. I do a real estate transaction here and there and some other side jobs. I was just thinking of finding something more permanent and full-time. It would actually put a strain on the family to do so though. Another Bitcoin bubble would make things just a little easier. I am sure I am not the only one on here that feels that way.
April 01, 2015, 06:24:37 PM
April 01, 2015, 06:16:36 PM
nice & slowly.
That does not sound like shnappy to me.
More stabby I'd say
Tarmi seems frustrated. I think we all should be a bit more encouraging to him.
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