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newbie
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Was waiting for 355, but will take some profit now and wait for lower prices or a clear direction in the next week to take a clear position.

So far so good. Now what price to buy back in? Is it time?
hero member
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Everyone get a grip please! it is not $12m or 43k BTC! The reporting on this matter absolutely sucks. Multiple sources claiming Evo's wallet holding 43K coins. It doesn't, it currently holds 980BTC. Bitcoin media reporting is appallingly poor.
He probably just moved the coins to other addresses.

They didn't run away with 43k BTC.  That's the total received.  You guys are panicking over a dumbasses misinterpretation of the wallet transaction history.  FFS.
No. He says "eight figure profit".
43k BTC = $12M.

So it's at least 36k BTC minimum.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/darknet-market-evolution-unreachable-funds-stolen/

hero member
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Funny how Jorge talks about "most people" like he has any kind of data.

As of last September there were less than 700'000 blockchain addresses with 0.1 BTC or more.  One would think that each bitcoin believer owns at least one such address.  While there are many exceptions, there are also many bitcoiners who own two or more such addresses; so, "one million" seems to be a generous estimate for the number of bitcoin believers.

I have no source for the number of people in the world who know enough about computing to understand Satoshi's paper or any of the alternative technical explanations about bitcoin, but they must be several million.  That includes any computer professional who understands what public key cryptography is supposed to do (even if he does not know the details of the algorithms).   Do you dispute that number?

As for another bit of evidence, I know at several dozen such people personally, including a couple of cryptography experts; and I have still to meet one who "believes in bitcoin".

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Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for a demonstration of "any kid with a laptop can double the bitcoins in circulation".

I explained how in that post; it is nothing new or complicated, it has happened a couple of times already, and is often proposed (incorrectly) as a defense of last resort against an "evil" mining majority.

The kid gets a copy of the software, makes some cosmetic change that clearly distinguishes messages of his clone from those of the original version after a certain block N, and lowers the difficulty by fiat in the clone after that block so that he can start mining  on his laptop.   After that block, presto, every bitcoin in existence gets a clone in the kid's chain, that can be accessed with the same keys and moved (spent, sold, etc.) independently of the original bitcoin. 

Whether bitcoiners will be aware of the existence of those "kidcoins", and will choose to use and/or mine them, is only a marketing problem, not a technical one...

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How are miners disincentivized from including lots of transactions? The amount of transactions has no effect on how hard a block is to solve. They are incentivized to pack the block with as many transactions with fees as they can.

A miner now earns ~7000 dollars for solving an empty block, and ~7025 dollars for packing as many transactions as will fit in it.  Larger blocks take slightly longer to propagate through the network, so the miner must consider whether those 25 dollars are worth the risk of losing the race just because of that handicap.

AFAIK, right now one can see many blocks being mined which are only partially full, while many transactions are pending in the queue.  Clearly, the current transaction fees are not enough of an incentive.

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[ Centralization of mining ] is not a problem central to bitcoin, it is a problem we've seen arise in oil, telecommunications (phone, cable & internet), banks, etc.

Indeed, and those historical examples are a strong argument for centralization of mining being inevitable.  But while centralization is bad in general, it is a fundamental problem for bitcoin, because "absence of a trusted third party or central controlling authority" was supposed to be the goal of the project.  As bitcoin gurus themselves concede, a mining company or cartel who has a comfortable majority of the hashpower can control the system, e.g. by starving miners who are not part of the cartel, freezing any account that the cartel feels like freezing, etc..  Right now, one must trust that the 4-5 largest miners will not use their power for "bad things"... 

The security of the bitcoin system is supposed t come not just from the technical features of the protocol, but mainly from the incentives that are assumed to convince the majority of the players to cooperate and protect it, rather than sabotage it.   That assumption is far from certain if a handful of companies has the majority of the hashpower.
hero member
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is crypto done??  Huh


Sure we have lost $15 in a morning of course it is done, i am offloading my 0.2btc as we speak this is not going to be pretty. Next stop $220


 Grin
hero member
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i love that type vids Cheesy

about BTC - great time to buy/rebuy. Fuck evolution scamers  Wink
legendary
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Short term looks like a good time to short, but buy back quick as I expect we'll be moving back up. The last time the 1D EMA/SMA lines made this pattern was July/August 2013.

Working like a charm  Wink
legendary
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Someone is trying to induce panic selling

Of course. Does anyone truly believe that the Evo-guys would dump their stash the next day on exchanges? That would be  totally stupid. No, these are whales who try to leverage this news to push down the price. They didn't succeed the past month, and this is a very good opportunity to give it another try. But as we can see, the results are disappointing, $15 down only.

If this bounces...


if this bounces short the fuck of it.
member
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Good morning, gentlemen.  How's tricks?

             CCMF!!

The best is yet to come!

hero member
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is crypto done??  Huh


Sure we have lost $15 in a morning of course it is done, i am offloading my 0.2btc as we speak this is not going to be pretty. Next stop $220
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
legendary
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derp bitcorn price 270 again  Angry

We are kings of the world!
legendary
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derp bitcorn price 270 again  Angry
legendary
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hero member
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perfectly orchestrated dump, well played
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1116
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
Someone is trying to induce panic selling

Of course. Does anyone truly believe that the Evo-guys would dump their stash the next day on exchanges? That would be  totally stupid. No, these are whales who try to leverage this news to push down the price. They didn't succeed the past month, and this is a very good opportunity to give it another try. But as we can see, the results are disappointing, $15 down only.

If this bounces...
legendary
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hero member
Activity: 737
Merit: 500
Someone is trying to induce panic selling

Of course. Does anyone truly believe that the Evo-guys would dump their stash the next day on exchanges? That would be  totally stupid. No, these are whales who try to leverage this news to push down the price. They didn't succeed the past month, and this is a very good opportunity to give it another try. But as we can see, the results are disappointing, $15 down only.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
Who's buying this? What's the upside here? 270-> 350$¿¿

Good chance to pay for these crooks trip to the carribean. I'm in
hero member
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Panic! :-)



As for the hack, it has been pointed out time and time again: If you do not have control of the keys, you do not have bitcoins.

Exactly, fool me once, shame on you, fool me 1000000000000x, shame on me...
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