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Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 10:23:40 AM

Quote from: plasticAiredale on March 12, 2015, 10:15:37 AM

Wow straight from the troll talking points rebuttal book "Troll being anyone who has a different view to you?"

Fine, you're not a troll, you're just an asshole.

You obviously know 21 million is as concrete as anything in Bitcoin, the fact that the code can change it with consensus is at most a red herring by you. Otherwise you have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how the Bitcoin community works.

Name calling now eh? You are only becoming angry because you believe in the triumph of unbounded hope over reality.
I'm just your 'memento mori', reminding you that bitcoin may not make you the millionaire you hope to be.

Again, my original point was that the future value of bitcoin is being predicated to a large extent on the 21m cap, a belief based on faith more than reality.

You are a bore.

Quite simple really... do it, if it is such a given, in reality do it, do it now, make it so... prove what you say.

Prove you can make this change and Bitcoin still be Bitcoin, prove it is possible.

Otherwise you are in strawman territory arguing semantics.

We do not need to prove what already is because it already is

If you want to prove what is not so, then it is down to you to prove it.

The beauty of this is, is that all of the tools you need, are available to you right this second.

Make it so.

Prove you could make this change, and that Bitcoin, will still be Bitcoin, because as has been pointed out to you... it will not be, it will be something other than Bitcoin.

Really, please, do it

or.....

You are wrong.

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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC

Thread retarded again, shit's gonna happen..

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Quote from: plasticAiredale on March 12, 2015, 10:15:37 AM

Wow straight from the troll talking points rebuttal book "Troll being anyone who has a different view to you?"

Fine, you're not a troll, you're just an asshole.

You obviously know 21 million is as concrete as anything in Bitcoin, the fact that the code can change it with consensus is at most a red herring by you. Otherwise you have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how the Bitcoin community works.

Name calling now eh? You are only becoming angry because you believe in the triumph of unbounded hope over reality.
I'm just your 'memento mori', reminding you that bitcoin may not make you the millionaire you hope to be.

Again, my original point was that the future value of bitcoin is being predicated to a large extent on the 21m cap, a belief based on faith more than reality.

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Quote from: calme on March 12, 2015, 10:12:12 AM

If fat ppl and ginger ppl were to face genocide in a country, don't think for one second that other countries wouldn't get involved. That's not how the world works. People would say it's not fair. Before you knew it, the other countries would kill off their own fat ppl and ginger ppl so that they wouldn't have to keep them around either and to make it fair.

To be fair all we would have to do to take care of the gingers is ban sun tan lotion.

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Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 10:16:14 AM

Quote from: calme on March 12, 2015, 10:12:12 AM

If fat ppl and ginger ppl were to face genocide in a country, don't think for one second that other countries wouldn't get involved. That's not how the world works. People would say it's not fair. Before you knew it, the other countries would kill off their own fat ppl and ginger ppl so that they wouldn't have to keep them around either.

But it would be by consensus - thats the important issue....

Grin

It ^^ is never going to happen.

That is the important issue.

Let us not let reality get in the way of a good idea though.

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Quote from: calme on March 12, 2015, 10:12:12 AM

If fat ppl and ginger ppl were to face genocide in a country, don't think for one second that other countries wouldn't get involved. That's not how the world works. People would say it's not fair. Before you knew it, the other countries would kill off their own fat ppl and ginger ppl so that they wouldn't have to keep them around either.

But it would be by consensus - thats the important issue....

Grin

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Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 09:55:41 AM

Quote from: plasticAiredale on March 12, 2015, 09:41:28 AM

Ughhh, I hate that I got suckered into feeding a troll.

Of course if there is community consensus to change the cap it would happen, it could also go the other way down to a 18 million cap, they could do anything with community acceptance. Its a pointless point to make.

As far as not understanding how bitcoin works, I don't have any desire to prove this to you, you can believe whatever you want.

If you can't get the answer you are looking for from the Pieter Wuille quote I included, you are being deliberately obtuse, and I have no need to interact with you further.

Troll being anyone who has a different view to you? Huh

My point all along is that the cap is NOT concrete - which you have now agreed with. Yet many of the predictions of grand wealth with bitcoins are predicated on this fallacy.

The Pieter Wuille quote was irrelevant for the reason I stated - He is talking about rogue attacks, Im talking about consensual change.

You have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how it works with your "21 millionth bitcoin" statement.

Wow straight from the troll talking points rebuttal book "Troll being anyone who has a different view to you?"

Fine, you're not a troll, you're just an asshole.

You obviously know 21 million is as concrete as anything in Bitcoin, the fact that the code can change it with consensus is at most a red herring by you. Otherwise you have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how the Bitcoin community works.

empowering

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Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 10:10:47 AM

Quote from: empowering on March 12, 2015, 10:07:43 AM

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 10:06:16 AM

Quote from: soullyG on March 12, 2015, 09:56:51 AM

Gah, sorry for stirring up the troll-pot Sad

Why the apology? You made a perfectly valid post, I was just questioning one of the fundamental tenets of that post.

And apart from being called a troll, nobody has actually proved me wrong yet.

Not wrong, just pointless.

Here is a video that will explain what you are missing.

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

Where is that tumbleweed gif when you need it. About summarises your ability to counter with a cogent argument.

I have not heard or seen a cogent argument.

Provide one please.

(ps ha ha)

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Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 10:08:36 AM

Quote from: empowering on March 12, 2015, 09:58:33 AM

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 09:55:41 AM

Quote from: plasticAiredale on March 12, 2015, 09:41:28 AM

Ughhh, I hate that I got suckered into feeding a troll.

Of course if there is community consensus to change the cap it would happen, it could also go the other way down to a 18 million cap, they could do anything with community acceptance. Its a pointless point to make.

As far as not understanding how bitcoin works, I don't have any desire to prove this to you, you can believe whatever you want.

If you can't get the answer you are looking for from the Pieter Wuille quote I included, you are being deliberately obtuse, and I have no need to interact with you further.

Troll being anyone who has a different view to you? Huh

My point all along is that the cap is NOT concrete - which you have now agreed with. Yet many of the predictions of grand wealth with bitcoins are predicated on this fallacy.

The Pieter Wuille quote was irrelevant for the reason I stated - He is talking about rogue attacks, Im talking about consensual change.

You have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how it works with your "21 millionth bitcoin" statement.

I have had a better idea.... instead of miners receiving Bitcoin for their work, they simply get "thank you" notes + links to youtube rickrolls

Totally doable.

Make it so.

...aaaannddd Still nothing.

Really, I thought that was a perfectly reasoned argument, totally in line with this discussion.

There is nothing to stop the reward being changed to thank you notes and rickrolls is there?

So it is a fact then.

So it could happen then.

So that makes it possible in reality.

It makes as much sense as what you are suggesting.

You are arguing semantics and you know it.

Like I said, lets not faff around in what ifs, this is perfectly testable, do it, make it so.

I am sure it will work out fine.

While you are at it, you could try running through walls as well (please provide pics)

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If fat ppl and ginger ppl were to face genocide in a country, don't think for one second that other countries wouldn't get involved. That's not how the world works. People would say it's not fair. Before you knew it, the other countries would kill off their own fat ppl and ginger ppl so that they wouldn't have to keep them around either.

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Quote from: empowering on March 12, 2015, 10:07:43 AM

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 10:06:16 AM

Quote from: soullyG on March 12, 2015, 09:56:51 AM

Gah, sorry for stirring up the troll-pot Sad

Why the apology? You made a perfectly valid post, I was just questioning one of the fundamental tenets of that post.

And apart from being called a troll, nobody has actually proved me wrong yet.

Not wrong, just pointless.

Here is a video that will explain what you are missing.

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

Where is that tumbleweed gif when you need it. About summarises your ability to counter with a cogent argument.

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Quote from: empowering on March 12, 2015, 09:58:33 AM

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 09:55:41 AM

Quote from: plasticAiredale on March 12, 2015, 09:41:28 AM

Ughhh, I hate that I got suckered into feeding a troll.

Of course if there is community consensus to change the cap it would happen, it could also go the other way down to a 18 million cap, they could do anything with community acceptance. Its a pointless point to make.

As far as not understanding how bitcoin works, I don't have any desire to prove this to you, you can believe whatever you want.

If you can't get the answer you are looking for from the Pieter Wuille quote I included, you are being deliberately obtuse, and I have no need to interact with you further.

Troll being anyone who has a different view to you? Huh

My point all along is that the cap is NOT concrete - which you have now agreed with. Yet many of the predictions of grand wealth with bitcoins are predicated on this fallacy.

The Pieter Wuille quote was irrelevant for the reason I stated - He is talking about rogue attacks, Im talking about consensual change.

You have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how it works with your "21 millionth bitcoin" statement.

I have had a better idea.... instead of miners receiving Bitcoin for their work, they simply get "thank you" notes + links to youtube rickrolls

Totally doable.

Make it so.

...aaaannddd Still nothing.

empowering

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Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 10:06:16 AM

Quote from: soullyG on March 12, 2015, 09:56:51 AM

Gah, sorry for stirring up the troll-pot Sad

Why the apology? You made a perfectly valid post, I was just questioning one of the fundamental tenets of that post.

And apart from being called a troll, nobody has actually proved me wrong yet.

Not wrong, just pointless.

Here is a video that will explain what you are missing.

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

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Quote from: soullyG on March 12, 2015, 09:56:51 AM

Gah, sorry for stirring up the troll-pot Sad

Why the apology? You made a perfectly valid post, I was just questioning one of the fundamental tenets of that post.

And apart from being called a troll, nobody has actually proved me wrong yet.

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Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 09:55:41 AM

Quote from: plasticAiredale on March 12, 2015, 09:41:28 AM

Ughhh, I hate that I got suckered into feeding a troll.

Of course if there is community consensus to change the cap it would happen, it could also go the other way down to a 18 million cap, they could do anything with community acceptance. Its a pointless point to make.

As far as not understanding how bitcoin works, I don't have any desire to prove this to you, you can believe whatever you want.

If you can't get the answer you are looking for from the Pieter Wuille quote I included, you are being deliberately obtuse, and I have no need to interact with you further.

Troll being anyone who has a different view to you? Huh

My point all along is that the cap is NOT concrete - which you have now agreed with. Yet many of the predictions of grand wealth with bitcoins are predicated on this fallacy.

The Pieter Wuille quote was irrelevant for the reason I stated - He is talking about rogue attacks, Im talking about consensual change.

You have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how it works with your "21 millionth bitcoin" statement.

I have had a better idea.... instead of miners receiving Bitcoin for their work, they simply get "thank you" notes + links to youtube rickrolls

Totally doable.

Make it so.

gizmoh

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Quote from: tarmi on March 12, 2015, 09:21:20 AM

go usd swaps, go bitcoin, go bulls!

wanna see 300 stable and 24 mil of longs!

Momentum fading, Great time to short if you ask me Roll Eyes

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Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 09:34:29 AM

Quote from: empowering on March 12, 2015, 09:31:22 AM

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on March 12, 2015, 09:30:31 AM

Quote from: empowering on March 12, 2015, 09:26:27 AM

Ah ok, simple then.

Off you pop then, get cracking, let me know how it goes.

So thats it then? No killer argument to put me in my place? No clusterbomb of a nuggett from the White Paper to show that the 21M cap is sacricant and can never be changed? Huh

No... because I can ignore the obvious too, just like you.

Okay, I no longer want to ignore the obvious. Enlighten me. And Im not being smart, If there is an axiom that states that 21M is the oncrete limit, then I want to know.
You owe that to me and other bitcoiners. For our future....

very simple bud: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/575046156692094976

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Decentralize everything

Gah, sorry for stirring up the troll-pot Sad

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Quote from: plasticAiredale on March 12, 2015, 09:41:28 AM

Ughhh, I hate that I got suckered into feeding a troll.

Of course if there is community consensus to change the cap it would happen, it could also go the other way down to a 18 million cap, they could do anything with community acceptance. Its a pointless point to make.

As far as not understanding how bitcoin works, I don't have any desire to prove this to you, you can believe whatever you want.

If you can't get the answer you are looking for from the Pieter Wuille quote I included, you are being deliberately obtuse, and I have no need to interact with you further.

Troll being anyone who has a different view to you? Huh

My point all along is that the cap is NOT concrete - which you have now agreed with. Yet many of the predictions of grand wealth with bitcoins are predicated on this fallacy.

The Pieter Wuille quote was irrelevant for the reason I stated - He is talking about rogue attacks, Im talking about consensual change.

You have already proven you have at best a sketchy understanding of how it works with your "21 millionth bitcoin" statement.

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