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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?


Directly... at this point in time.... very little.

Indirectly... a lot.


I am not sat here with my cock in hand hoping for a financial crash in hopes of escaping capital outflows benefiting BTC, because well at this point in time I do not see it happening.

However, there is an increasing possibility no matter how the current situation pans out, that we may see capital controls put in place (not just in greece either) due to the situation in Greece.  there is a perfect storm scenario where the Greece leaves the union, and the ECB declare they will not provide temporary liquidity to cover the capital flight from greece.  In fact there is the scenario where even if it does not go that far, the billions of euros a week that are currently leaving the greek banking system, continues and accelerates, even without a grexit. Basically capital controls could be put in place, and directly at this point in time, the effect for BTC will be very little.. but, it will be yet another exhibition of capital controls, and even if the greeks are not thinking about it, others will be.

So if the Swiss unpeg was the first canary in the mine.... perhaps Greece is our second canary..

Plus also BTC does not operate in a vacuum anymore than Greece or Europe does...  as I said earlier if Greece leaves it is relevant to most, and certainly to anything to do with the economy/investments etc. I have posted on here in the past about my view of how BTC may be impacted by a (medium sized) financial crisis.

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Greece and Russia will not go into BTC they will go in DRK.

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Such fast-paced action.  Of latepfff!, Bitcoin reminds me of the Boston Molasses Disaster.

I mean, yeah, disaster, but also molasses...  Everything going horribly wrong ...in slow motion.
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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?

Remember the banking crisis in Cypress? There is a possibility of a massive pump if a critical mass of Greeks use Bitcoin to evade/avoid capital controls, should capital controls be implemented.

That's what people said with the Ruble crash but nope Sad

Russians are "sort of" not allowed to buy bitcoins.

There's always a way!
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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?

Remember the banking crisis in Cypress? There is a possibility of a massive pump if a critical mass of Greeks use Bitcoin to evade/avoid capital controls, should capital controls be implemented.

That's what people said with the Ruble crash but nope Sad

There are some differences. Russia faced sanctions, which were externally-imposed capital controls and they were/are limited. It's also an economy many orders of magnitude larger and is controls by an autocratic strongman. Even so, Russia is even now experimenting with an alternative to the SWIFT system, so I'm not writing them off just yet.

Let's hope both Russia and Greece get into it, let's make the price steady for once!
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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?

Remember the banking crisis in Cypress? There is a possibility of a massive pump if a critical mass of Greeks use Bitcoin to evade/avoid capital controls, should capital controls be implemented.

That's true.

Weren't they taking peoples savings away from them?
That'd be heartbreaking.

Pump it all into BTC Greeks Wink
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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?

Remember the banking crisis in Cypress? There is a possibility of a massive pump if a critical mass of Greeks use Bitcoin to evade/avoid capital controls, should capital controls be implemented.

That's what people said with the Ruble crash but nope Sad

Russians are "sort of" not allowed to buy bitcoins.
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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?

Remember the banking crisis in Cypress? There is a possibility of a massive pump if a critical mass of Greeks use Bitcoin to evade/avoid capital controls, should capital controls be implemented.

That's what people said with the Ruble crash but nope Sad

There are some differences. Russia faced sanctions, which were externally-imposed capital controls and they were/are limited. It's also an economy many orders of magnitude larger and is controled by an autocratic strongman. Even so, Russia is even now experimenting with an alternative to the SWIFT system, so I'm not writing them off just yet.
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The problem is that Greece got in the currency Union under false pretenses. They should forfeit all national assets. They should nationalize everything they can steal and give it all to the banksters. Let Greece be the first open vassal state of the Banks. Every western country is anyway so we might as well be honest about it. Let democracy officially die first where it was born. Appoint a bankster governor, preferably some Greek sell-out. Auction off the Parthenon on eBay. I got my eye on a little Greek island I want to buy.

If it weren't for that fact that you're an american I would think that you were being ironic.

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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?

Remember the banking crisis in Cypress? There is a possibility of a massive pump if a critical mass of Greeks use Bitcoin to evade/avoid capital controls, should capital controls be implemented.

That's what people said with the Ruble crash but nope Sad
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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?

Remember the banking crisis in Cypress? There is a possibility of a massive pump if a critical mass of Greeks use Bitcoin to evade/avoid capital controls, should capital controls be implemented.
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It's my understanding that the more forward-thinking gray marketteers are opting out of Bitcoin in favor of less archaic cripto, the sort that does anonymity right.  Hope you'll be able to find some throwback still using BTC in 5-10 yrs. Undecided

Do you have 6800 posts in 11 months on a non-bitcoin forum for a 'less archaic cripto' coin we should be investing in?


Find me one as full of paranoiac lolcows serious investors, and I'll see what I could do.
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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?
Nothing.
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I guess the coast is clear.  I was expecting heaving dumping to take place once we landed over 240 and once the support strengthened.



whew that was a close one wasn't it ?? did you hear that everybody ?? coast is clear ......

the $240 coast IS clear. The $250 coast? Well, that remains to be seen.
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Forgive my ignorance but what does Greece have to do with the price of BTC?
legendary
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It's my understanding that the more forward-thinking gray marketteers are opting out of Bitcoin in favor of less archaic cripto, the sort that does anonymity right.  Hope you'll be able to find some throwback still using BTC in 5-10 yrs. Undecided

Do you have 6800 posts in 11 months on a non-bitcoin forum for a 'less archaic cripto' coin we should be investing in?
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I heard people say the same thing when Lehman/sub-prime mortgage fiasco was happening,   those same people still cannot figure out (7-8 years later) why they are working more, earning less, why their house is worth less, why their chicken and shopping costs more.

Greece does not operate in a vacuum, plus, make no mistake, Portugal, Spain, France, Italy are all looking very closely at what is happening, they also do not operate in a vacuum.

Even if there is a last minute compromise reached this week, even then, the future of Greece in the Euro is looking shaky. Elections coming up in other southern European countries soon too.

If you are in a position to be isolated and immune from the global financial situation, then bully for you, but while the world will not cave in on itself, neither will a grexit be an isolated event that effects only the Greeks.  

Yep, good post. It destroys the irrevocability of currency union. The ramifications of this will be disastrous. Greece may not be the bomb, but it will be the fuse for sure.

The problem is that Greece got in the currency Union under false pretenses. They should forfeit all national assets. They should nationalize everything they can steal and give it all to the banksters. Let Greece be the first open vassal state of the Banks. Every western country is anyway so we might as well be honest about it. Let democracy officially die first where it was born. Appoint a bankster governor, preferably some Greek sell-out. Auction off the Parthenon on eBay. I got my eye on a little Greek island I want to buy.
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We'll know in 5-10 years if bitcoin is going to go anywhere.

The best thing about that is not having to admit how badly you've blown it for another 5-10 years.  Then you'll be old, and it wouldn't matter as much.
I'm in my late 20's now.

Then you won't be senile, and it's still gonna bite.  Oh well Undecided

I'll just spend my stash on drugs at Silk Rd 9 or something Wink

It's my understanding that the more forward-thinking gray marketteers are opting out of Bitcoin in favor of less archaic cripto, the sort that does anonymity right.  Hope you'll be able to find some throwback still using BTC in 5-10 yrs. Undecided
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I guess the coast is clear.  I was expecting heaving dumping to take place once we landed over 240 and once the support strengthened.



whew that was a close one wasn't it ?? did you hear that everybody ?? coast is clear ......
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