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legendary
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You judge Europe as if it's a singular behemothic superstate.

HUH?? I implied nothing of the sort. It's a multi-juristictional bureaucratic nightmare, But which country is in which organization is not really relevant to my point which is that a monetary union cannot succeed without fiscal and/or political union.

I used to think the U.S. Dollar was the worst possible form of currency, marrying fiat with fractional reserve lending, but you Europeans actually surpassed us. You combined the inflationary instability of fiat with the inflexibility of hard currency AND fractional lending. Wow, that's an accomplishment. I mean I know the Euro is nothing like a PM-backed currency, but to member states that need to adjust monetary policy differently, it might as well be.




and the winner is.... german export blitz.

to the german export industry the euro is not a nightmare but a wet dream come true. an economy with such export strength would sooner or later get a stronger currency = higher prices for their goods = less sales. germany is (ab)using the weak PIGS countries as class a weapons in the currency war.  it could not work better for them.

all this just to get a giant trade surplus.

Are you insane or just stupid? What good does it do to "sell" exports to people on credit when they default on the credit? How beneficial is it to give your stuff away? A trade surplus just means you're giving more stuff than you're getting. That's BAD not good. A weak currency helps your exporters but hurts you when you have to import the raw materials and energy. It's also terrible for capital formation (savings). There's a name for a condition where everybody works but nobody gets paid. It's called "slavery".

he is right with the german export blitz...it is not that easy to understand at first...but most european countries suffer mostly because of the german export strength...especially the "weaker" southern states have a major problem...it is a very complex scenario and you should read much more into it than some posts on a bitcoin board if you want to understand it better...actually i cannot give you any links because my common sources are all german...but maybe there is someone else around

I am the last to defend germans, but being blamed for everything bad because you're making too much good stuff is pretty weak. Greece needs to build competitive businesses. Italy needs to turn their brilliant "father and son" businesses and national champions towards global export (look at Fiat and several fashion brands). Spain has done a lot of things right but their willfully blind reliance on construction to keep growth up, rather than adjusting to the new economic reality after the new member states arrived in 2003, hurt the economy immensely. Ireland is pretty much back on its feet ( but the irish will always think that they are falling behind). Portugal is more of a problem, they have much of the same problems that Greece has except they haven't been fudging the numbers like Greece. But when the crisis hit, their problems were laid bare. If Germany, Finland, France and The Netherlands can't forgive Greece, then they should try to give a hand to Portugal and stop the contagion there.
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Fonzie. Come again, please?

Seller is buying his own asks in huge single chunks (1000&600BTC) in order to encourage at least a few idiots investors to throw their money in before we go down.  Undecided

I agree that's probably what's happening, but given the amount of suckers relative to good traders in this market, I think I give this gambit a much better chance of succeeding (at least in the short-term) than you do.
legendary
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@tarmi...now what?


now is time to place some juicy bids near 220 mark!

because bullish.
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Fonzie. Come again, please?

Seller is buying his own asks in huge single chunks (1000&600BTC) in order to encourage at least a few idiots investors to throw their money in before we go down.  Undecided
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It almost seems like the last bulls are already out of money.  Undecided

Fonzie. Come again, please?
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@tarmi...now what?
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things are getting interesting @stamp
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..."The government should not just stand aside," Leung told reporters. "It's simply not enough to just ask people to exercise caution when investing ... it has to ban the circulation of such virtual currency in the market.""
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why are you posting (maybe) scam in here? and how would scam numbers be helpful in any way? like the mycoin numbers that are totally useless
why would somebody post that in a bitcoin trollboard and not in the darknet?

could you please use your education for something more useful?
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there must be a lot of ppl who just wanted to take a look and others who wanted to order something but didn't because of [insert your favourite reason].

You had to register in order to browse, I suppose?
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A guy claiming to be the Silk Road 2.0 programmer is offering their database for sale:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--952177

The guy may well be a scammer, of course.  One interesting detail is that he claims to have "usernames and
hashed passwords of 476,122 users, 51,490 deposit addresses, 7,756 plaintext passwords, 13,280 product listings, 52,481 private messages, 145,493 transaction records".  If true, those numbers may help estimate the number of bitcoin users.

How would he have more than 3 times as many users as transactions?  Is it plausible that 2 out of every 3 people who registered at the site did not order anything from it?

sure. there must be a lot of ppl who just wanted to take a look and others who wanted to order something but didn't because of [insert your favourite reason].
edit: others might have lost their account and just registered a new one without ordering...

you know that hong kong is not china?

It has some political and economic autonomy, but I believe it is now fully part of China, right?
i think so, yes.
hero member
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you know that hong kong is not china?

It has some political and economic autonomy, but I believe it is now fully part of China, right?
legendary
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you know that hong kong is not china?
It's not correct. Hong Kong is a special administration district of China.
hero member
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A guy claiming to be the Silk Road 2.0 programmer is offering their database for sale:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--952177

The guy may well be a scammer, of course.  One interesting detail is that he claims to have "usernames and
hashed passwords of 476,122 users, 51,490 deposit addresses, 7,756 plaintext passwords, 13,280 product listings, 52,481 private messages, 145,493 transaction records".  If true, those numbers may help estimate the number of bitcoin users.

How would he have more than 3 times as many users as transactions?  Is it plausible that 2 out of every 3 people who registered at the site did not order anything from it?
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so you think this time you will break 210? you tried a couple of times...yesterday you did break 215 (for a second or so)

anyway...do people really care about bitstamp numbers? 1 month ago the exact same persons talked about bitstamp like they would not even use it if their life depends on it...personally i dont even have a bitstamp charts window open anymore

People are moving their coins out of China due to the risk that all Hongkong/Chinese exchanges (Huoibi, Bitfinex...) will get shutdown.
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