Edit: off-topic, but there's nothing else to talk about in this thread tonight!
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 23101. (Read 26609035 times)
January 30, 2015, 06:48:11 PM
How does MaidSafe differ from StorJ?
Edit: off-topic, but there's nothing else to talk about in this thread tonight!
Edit: off-topic, but there's nothing else to talk about in this thread tonight!
January 30, 2015, 06:44:00 PM
the 2.0 space is going to be much bigger by the end of the year. one of them is going to cause another wave of insane innovation.
Maidsafe
January 30, 2015, 06:37:03 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/brazils-economy-verge-total-collapse
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing
brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing
brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
Luckily, on a bitcoin forum, it is highly unlikely anyone would have serious savings in Brazilian reals.
yea, you are probably right.
Brazilian Reals look like a complete Amway product hype network marketing ploy, can't believe anybody would have fallen for them, I mean where's the technological backing? Once the Brazilian goverment runs out of new marks to foist debt onto the whole thing will implode on itself.
January 30, 2015, 06:34:01 PM
I am thinking of opening an account on bitfinex, unless somebody advises against it, if not would anybody have a referred code for it? thanks
Bitfinex with their inside trading (manipulating).. could be new Gox soon. So yah, deposit only as much as you are willing to risk.
You logic doesn't make sense to me.
Assuming their insider information really helps them to gain an effective advantage and thus continuously make them money then you should assume they want to keep this operation running (as is) as long as possible. Why would you assume they are and will continue to constantly loosing money while trying to exploit their presumed (but technically proven to be ineffective) advantage (assuming they make more losses than profits) or choose to steal everything (thus becoming actual criminals) rather than continuing an already profitable operation (without effective legal problems)?
I think the Gox insider trading (Markus/Willy) was presumed to be a last (failed) attempt to recover funds which had been lost already (due to an earlier hack). But the new theories tend to think otherwise (those bots didn't belong to Karpeles but a [inside or outside] hacker who used them to steal the funds).
Well... they admitted inside trading. They already have a gold mine (fees + lending), so why would they need to destroy they reputation with inside trading? I would say there is something wrong. I did a lot of trading there and I still do, but only with a small % of my coins. Just my thoughts
why did karpeles? he had millions form the fees and yet he destroyed his gold mine.
I think the answer is quite simple - he was a poor fucker who wanted more. if spice stops to flow for some reason you can always cook your books and manipulate order books.
Imagine that all the BTC Finex have available for swaps are made up. They use them to short the price and build up huge reserves of cash while driving down the price. At the right time, after they have used the cash they drained out of the ecosystem to buy enough artificially cheap coins, they stop shorting and start letting the price naturally correct.... profit...
unlikely.
if something is made up then it must be cash. when cash dries up you come with a hack or withdrawing story.
Can you explain why this is unlikely?
Bitcoin available for swaps would never leave the internal ledger books if they were lending them to themselves.
sooner or later someone will try to buy and withdraw those non existing coins.
fiat it is much easier to manipulate and it can be created from thin air easily.
bitcoiners learned from the best.
January 30, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/brazils-economy-verge-total-collapse
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing
brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing
brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
Like it isn't destined for paper currencies to go to shit...
January 30, 2015, 06:30:57 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/brazils-economy-verge-total-collapse
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing
brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing
brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
Luckily, on a bitcoin forum, it is highly unlikely anyone would have serious savings in Brazilian reals.
January 30, 2015, 06:18:51 PM
I am thinking of opening an account on bitfinex, unless somebody advises against it, if not would anybody have a referred code for it? thanks
Bitfinex with their inside trading (manipulating).. could be new Gox soon. So yah, deposit only as much as you are willing to risk.
You logic doesn't make sense to me.
Assuming their insider information really helps them to gain an effective advantage and thus continuously make them money then you should assume they want to keep this operation running (as is) as long as possible. Why would you assume they are and will continue to constantly loosing money while trying to exploit their presumed (but technically proven to be ineffective) advantage (assuming they make more losses than profits) or choose to steal everything (thus becoming actual criminals) rather than continuing an already profitable operation (without effective legal problems)?
I think the Gox insider trading (Markus/Willy) was presumed to be a last (failed) attempt to recover funds which had been lost already (due to an earlier hack). But the new theories tend to think otherwise (those bots didn't belong to Karpeles but a [inside or outside] hacker who used them to steal the funds).
Well... they admitted inside trading. They already have a gold mine (fees + lending), so why would they need to destroy they reputation with inside trading? I would say there is something wrong. I did a lot of trading there and I still do, but only with a small % of my coins. Just my thoughts
why did karpeles? he had millions form the fees and yet he destroyed his gold mine.
I think the answer is quite simple - he was a poor fucker who wanted more. if spice stops to flow for some reason you can always cook your books and manipulate order books.
Imagine that all the BTC Finex have available for swaps are made up. They use them to short the price and build up huge reserves of cash while driving down the price. At the right time, after they have used the cash they drained out of the ecosystem to buy enough artificially cheap coins, they stop shorting and start letting the price naturally correct.... profit...
unlikely.
if something is made up then it must be cash. when cash dries up you come with a hack or withdrawing story.
Can you explain why this is unlikely?
Bitcoin available for swaps would never leave the internal ledger books if they were lending them to themselves.
January 30, 2015, 06:02:09 PM
I am thinking of opening an account on bitfinex, unless somebody advises against it, if not would anybody have a referred code for it? thanks
Bitfinex with their inside trading (manipulating).. could be new Gox soon. So yah, deposit only as much as you are willing to risk.
You logic doesn't make sense to me.
Assuming their insider information really helps them to gain an effective advantage and thus continuously make them money then you should assume they want to keep this operation running (as is) as long as possible. Why would you assume they are and will continue to constantly loosing money while trying to exploit their presumed (but technically proven to be ineffective) advantage (assuming they make more losses than profits) or choose to steal everything (thus becoming actual criminals) rather than continuing an already profitable operation (without effective legal problems)?
I think the Gox insider trading (Markus/Willy) was presumed to be a last (failed) attempt to recover funds which had been lost already (due to an earlier hack). But the new theories tend to think otherwise (those bots didn't belong to Karpeles but a [inside or outside] hacker who used them to steal the funds).
Well... they admitted inside trading. They already have a gold mine (fees + lending), so why would they need to destroy they reputation with inside trading? I would say there is something wrong. I did a lot of trading there and I still do, but only with a small % of my coins. Just my thoughts
why did karpeles? he had millions form the fees and yet he destroyed his gold mine.
I think the answer is quite simple - he was a poor fucker who wanted more. if spice stops to flow for some reason you can always cook your books and manipulate order books.
Imagine that all the BTC Finex have available for swaps are made up. They use them to short the price and build up huge reserves of cash while driving down the price. At the right time, after they have used the cash they drained out of the ecosystem to buy enough artificially cheap coins, they stop shorting and start letting the price naturally correct.... profit...
unlikely.
if something is made up then it must be cash. when cash dries up you come with a hack or withdrawing story.
January 30, 2015, 05:59:59 PM
January 30, 2015, 05:54:52 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/brazils-economy-verge-total-collapse
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing
brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing
brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
January 30, 2015, 05:53:42 PM
I am thinking of opening an account on bitfinex, unless somebody advises against it, if not would anybody have a referred code for it? thanks
Bitfinex with their inside trading (manipulating).. could be new Gox soon. So yah, deposit only as much as you are willing to risk.
You logic doesn't make sense to me.
Assuming their insider information really helps them to gain an effective advantage and thus continuously make them money then you should assume they want to keep this operation running (as is) as long as possible. Why would you assume they are and will continue to constantly loosing money while trying to exploit their presumed (but technically proven to be ineffective) advantage (assuming they make more losses than profits) or choose to steal everything (thus becoming actual criminals) rather than continuing an already profitable operation (without effective legal problems)?
I think the Gox insider trading (Markus/Willy) was presumed to be a last (failed) attempt to recover funds which had been lost already (due to an earlier hack). But the new theories tend to think otherwise (those bots didn't belong to Karpeles but a [inside or outside] hacker who used them to steal the funds).
Well... they admitted inside trading. They already have a gold mine (fees + lending), so why would they need to destroy they reputation with inside trading? I would say there is something wrong. I did a lot of trading there and I still do, but only with a small % of my coins. Just my thoughts
why did karpeles? he had millions form the fees and yet he destroyed his gold mine.
I think the answer is quite simple - he was a poor fucker who wanted more. if spice stops to flow for some reason you can always cook your books and manipulate order books.
Imagine that all the BTC Finex have available for swaps are made up. They use them to short the price and build up huge reserves of cash while driving down the price. At the right time, after they have used the cash they drained out of the ecosystem to buy enough artificially cheap coins, they stop shorting and start letting the price naturally correct.... profit...
January 30, 2015, 05:51:14 PM
I am thinking of opening an account on bitfinex, unless somebody advises against it, if not would anybody have a referred code for it? thanks
Bitfinex with their inside trading (manipulating).. could be new Gox soon. So yah, deposit only as much as you are willing to risk.
You logic doesn't make sense to me.
Assuming their insider information really helps them to gain an effective advantage and thus continuously make them money then you should assume they want to keep this operation running (as is) as long as possible. Why would you assume they are and will continue to constantly loosing money while trying to exploit their presumed (but technically proven to be ineffective) advantage (assuming they make more losses than profits) or choose to steal everything (thus becoming actual criminals) rather than continuing an already profitable operation (without effective legal problems)?
I think the Gox insider trading (Markus/Willy) was presumed to be a last (failed) attempt to recover funds which had been lost already (due to an earlier hack). But the new theories tend to think otherwise (those bots didn't belong to Karpeles but a [inside or outside] hacker who used them to steal the funds).
Well... they admitted inside trading. They already have a gold mine (fees + lending), so why would they need to destroy they reputation with inside trading? I would say there is something wrong. I did a lot of trading there and I still do, but only with a small % of my coins. Just my thoughts
I will never trade there again. I use Okcoin now and I like the interface and iOS app. I prefer trading futures since I can deposit a small amount and get a good trading position. I'm not a fan of leaving coins on an exchange.. Also the live help is fantastic
January 30, 2015, 05:46:29 PM
I am thinking of opening an account on bitfinex, unless somebody advises against it, if not would anybody have a referred code for it? thanks
Bitfinex with their inside trading (manipulating).. could be new Gox soon. So yah, deposit only as much as you are willing to risk.
You logic doesn't make sense to me.
Assuming their insider information really helps them to gain an effective advantage and thus continuously make them money then you should assume they want to keep this operation running (as is) as long as possible. Why would you assume they are and will continue to constantly loosing money while trying to exploit their presumed (but technically proven to be ineffective) advantage (assuming they make more losses than profits) or choose to steal everything (thus becoming actual criminals) rather than continuing an already profitable operation (without effective legal problems)?
I think the Gox insider trading (Markus/Willy) was presumed to be a last (failed) attempt to recover funds which had been lost already (due to an earlier hack). But the new theories tend to think otherwise (those bots didn't belong to Karpeles but a [inside or outside] hacker who used them to steal the funds).
Well... they admitted inside trading. They already have a gold mine (fees + lending), so why would they need to destroy they reputation with inside trading? I would say there is something wrong. I did a lot of trading there and I still do, but only with a small % of my coins. Just my thoughts
why did karpeles? he had millions form the fees and yet he destroyed his gold mine.
I think the answer is quite simple - he was a poor fucker who wanted more. if spice stops to flow for some reason you can always cook your books and manipulate order books with non existing fiat/coins.
January 30, 2015, 05:26:59 PM
You would come across a lot better if you dropped the insulting attitude BTW
... just dressing for the occasion. I didn't create the cesspit this place has become.
Do you think that will help ? I don't
Not disagreeing about the amount of drivel and trolls in here though
He's just riding the mood, you big poo head.
January 30, 2015, 05:19:54 PM
I am thinking of opening an account on bitfinex, unless somebody advises against it, if not would anybody have a referred code for it? thanks
Bitfinex with their inside trading (manipulating).. could be new Gox soon. So yah, deposit only as much as you are willing to risk.
You logic doesn't make sense to me.
Assuming their insider information really helps them to gain an effective advantage and thus continuously make them money then you should assume they want to keep this operation running (as is) as long as possible. Why would you assume they are and will continue to constantly loosing money while trying to exploit their presumed (but technically proven to be ineffective) advantage (assuming they make more losses than profits) or choose to steal everything (thus becoming actual criminals) rather than continuing an already profitable operation (without effective legal problems)?
I think the Gox insider trading (Markus/Willy) was presumed to be a last (failed) attempt to recover funds which had been lost already (due to an earlier hack). But the new theories tend to think otherwise (those bots didn't belong to Karpeles but a [inside or outside] hacker who used them to steal the funds).
January 30, 2015, 05:18:54 PM
The stupid token just bores me to death right now. I'm waiting for those twinkledouchebags to release some cosmic countdowns for their exchange or something. Two, three days is just too much to wait for the final capitulation dump.
January 30, 2015, 05:14:38 PM
You would come across a lot better if you dropped the insulting attitude BTW
... just dressing for the occasion. I didn't create the cesspit this place has become.
Do you think that will help ? I don't
Not disagreeing about the amount of drivel and trolls in here though
He's just riding the mood, you big poo head.
January 30, 2015, 05:06:47 PM
You would come across a lot better if you dropped the insulting attitude BTW
... just dressing for the occasion. I didn't create the cesspit this place has become.
Do you think that will help ? I don't
Not disagreeing about the amount of drivel and trolls in here though
January 30, 2015, 05:05:57 PM
no one wants to test those walls on bitfinex.
smells like another bull trap in the making.
I just noticed that USD swaps on bitfinex never went under 10 millions since the november 2013. bubble.
smells like another bull trap in the making.
I just noticed that USD swaps on bitfinex never went under 10 millions since the november 2013. bubble.
Unless those walls get tired of waiting
They were there yesterday so don't count on it
Yeah and no one took them for two days now. If you want to exit and have few thousand BTC here's your perfect opportunity to do so without much slippage on Finex. Now if you want to buy BTC10k you either have to pay for slippage or just put up a wall and hope someone will bite
January 30, 2015, 05:01:32 PM
You would come across a lot better if you dropped the insulting attitude BTW
... just dressing for the occasion. I didn't create the cesspit this place has become.
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